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Knights need to clean up act, says Smith

Pumba

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Knights need to clean up act, says Smith
BY ROBERT DILLON

BRIAN Smith admits the Newcastle Knights need to "take a good look" at their on-field discipline before next season after adverse penalty counts cruelled their hopes of reaching this year's NRL play-offs.

Newcastle finished ninth after the regular-season rounds and an extra win would have enabled them to scrape into the finals, which start this weekend.

Smith and his players were left ruing five losses by six points or less, and there is little doubt that Newcastle's cause was undermined by unresolved issues with the NRL's referees.

In 24 games, the Knights won the penalty count only four times.

They conceded more penalties (181) than any other team and were equal last with Penrith in terms of penalties awarded in their favour (134).

That left the Knights with a penalty differential of minus-47, which was easily the worst in the NRL.

The Roosters (minus-33) were their nearest rivals, while Parramatta (plus-47) finished the season with the best positive penalty ratio.

In other words, the Eels were 94 penalties better off than Newcastle an average of almost four per game.

Smith said yesterday he had not yet started his post-season review but was satisfied that Newcastle had made all-round improvement in many areas this year.

He nonetheless acknowledged that the Knights would need to work harder at staying onside with the match officials if they hoped to make further progress in 2009.

"I need to go into further analysis, but there are definitely a few individual guys who have deadset got little traits that make them prone to penalties," Smith said.

"So we'll work on them.

"But as a club, I don't think we'll be going down the path of pursuing the referees to get them to educate us.

"We just need to have a good look at ourselves and tidy up those individuals that are incurring multiple penalties and see it we can fix it from our own end."

Knights back-rower Chris Houston was the fourth-most penalised player in the NRL this season, conceding 21 in 24 games.

Kurt Gidley and Jarrod Mullen were Newcastle's next worst offenders, with 13 apiece.

Asked whether he considered Newcastle an undisciplined team, Smith replied: "I think there are aspects of it [discipline] we need to tidy up, not just in penalties but in terms of taking opportunities.

"When we get opportunities to make breaks, score tries and wrap games up, that in itself is a discipline.

"The tight games is when it hurts you.

"Penalties did play a role in those losses, but I also think we need to develop a little bit of a tougher mental attitude.

"That's not being too harsh on our younger players. I think it's fair to assume that's something we'll get better at.

"We need to have a bit more of a hard-nosed attitude to ensure that we don't lose games when we've been the better team."

Smith was unsure if there was any merit in trying to form a closer working relationship with the NRL referees.

He said he knew of one club who held interactive pre-season sessions with the whistle-blowers but it did them little good once the season kicked off.

"It could be misconstrued as a butt-kissing exercise," Smith said.

Heavy penalty counts were a constant source of angst for the Knights in 2008, and the club was fined $5000 in July when chief executive Steve Burraston claimed referees had a "pre-conceived" idea that Newcastle were undisciplined.

Smith said that, ironically, his team started to fare better with the referees after the coaching staff conceded that complaining to referees coach Robert Finch was basically a lost cause.

"We got to a point in the season where we felt like there was absolutely no return of the amount of time we were putting in, as coaches, in terms of interacting [with the NRL referees officials]," he said.

"From the point we just abandoned it, we actually got better.

"So our performance improved when we stopped worrying about it."

Several times this season Smith said the most frustrating aspect of Newcastle's penalty purgatory was that they seemingly could not "buy" one in their favour.

He has since studied video of certain clubs and believes they are being coached in techniques to "milk" penalties when they have the ball.

"I think there is a bit of a pattern arising there, some trends in the game about what the guys in possession of the ball are doing," he said.

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Karmawave

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A few people around here who were looking at ' what ifs ' with our playing roster and other excuses, need no further look than this article why we came 9th and not featuring in the playoffs.

It is an open shut case of poor discipline, and nothing to do with who played halfback or who didn't, or injuries, or Wicks, or any of that other rubbish.

-47 penalty differential.

Last ranked team, by far discipline wise.

THE number 1 reason we celebrated Mad Monday early.
 

reginald.p

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I think Smith has a point about other teams being coached to milk penalties. When you have the least amount of penalties awarded to you in the comp you can't just put it down to bad luck or the referees hating you. I don't know exactly what he has to do but hes gotta get someone to start teaching these techniques to get more penalties in our favour next year.
 

macavity

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It is an open shut case of poor discipline, -47 penalty differential.

Last ranked team, by far discipline wise.

THE number 1 reason we celebrated Mad Monday early.

sure, but that isn't only down to "poor discipline". we were targeted by refs, no doubt.
 

roopy

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My theory is that young blokes cop it from refs more than veterans because refs excuse behaviour in guys they have gotten used to and older players learn to 'work' the refs.
We will get a better run next year.
 

otori

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My theory is that young blokes cop it from refs more than veterans because refs excuse behaviour in guys they have gotten used to and older players learn to 'work' the refs.
We will get a better run next year.

That's true to an extent. But Gallen has been playing for a fair while now and he's the most penalised player right? Blokes like Civoniceva have a rep for being fair players though so holding down a bit longer is ok.
 

Jono078

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Knights back-rower Chris Houston was the fourth-most penalised player in the NRL this season, conceding 21 in 24 games.

Not a fan of reading whole articles eh Spike? :p
 

Pika

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Its all about perception.

We let ourselves down badly in the early rounds and were tarred with an ill disciplined brush.

Impossible to shake through the season with refs constantly looking hard at us.
 

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