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Knights return fire on Mitchell Sargent

perverse

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Johns Magic said:
Playing two dogsh*t teams would've helped.
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also a very good point.

tbh even if we beat the titans this week i still wont be confident of making the 8. if we can notch up a win against the titans.. and then canberra in canberra.. i will start to think about where we will finish on the ladder and how we might go in the finals. for the moment we just have to keep winning and ignoring the previous couple of weeks results.. as they mean jack sh*t without another couple on the trot.

it's quite funny.. all year i've been very confident we'll make the 8... until it actually came down to a point where we were in a genuine position to make a charge for it.
 
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Awwwww... diddums to Bitchell. The guy who banged on about the Cowboys being against him after they dumped him too. Who the f**k gets double pneumonia over Christmas in Australia anyway? Besides 6 year old girls.

Brian Smith simply never got over his departure from North Queersland.

All this talk about dumping Wicks for Royal or White is stupid too. If we sacked him, we'd have to pay him out defeating the purpose of saving money for them. And then we'd literally be paying him for nothing.
 
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Danish Moo Cow said:
Who the f**k gets double pneumonia over Christmas in Australia anyway? Besides 6 year old girls.
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people who spend alot of time in air conditioned gyms are very prone to getting pneumonia. it's more then likely that while wicks was eating donuts and burgers, sargent was training his arse off in the gym and the cold air combined with sargents sweat was the reason he got sick.royal sargent white and tafua are all better options then wicks is currently.the thought of wicks making excuses for not training such as rolled ankles headaches etc is pathetic and simply should not be tolerated.
 
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perverse said:
to be fair, it shouldn't be a black mark until it doesn't work.
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Well thats pretty much what I said mate :p but I didn't word it right (as per usual). Yes lets hope this is another of Smithy's plans that will work, he has had a pretty good success rate so far!

I have tried to give Wicks the benefit of the doubt many many many times this year, but I sincerely hope he has to play in NSW Cup on his return (would help if Royal and Cross were fit to squeeze him out of the team) and work his way back. I am not interested in seeing him saunter back onto our bench this week for his 4 hitups, 40 metres, 10 tackles, as many missed and 3 cream pies with a cherry on top.
 
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League_God said:
people who spend alot of time in air conditioned gyms are very prone to getting pneumonia. it's more then likely that while wicks was eating donuts and burgers, sargent was training his arse off in the gym and the cold air combined with sargents sweat was the reason he got sick.
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Which is exactly why the best gyms are not air-conditioned. Sure they might not have all the glitzy equipment or Fitness First hype, but a gyms a gym.

I can think of a couple in Newcastle that aren't air conned, one being a gym the Knights worked out at a number of years ago and very very close to their home ground.

If its too hot in a non air conditioned gym- just deal with it.

Gyms should be room temped. Even if its 40 degrees outside.
 
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Interesting spin that is put on the deal that Sargeant got. As i understood it, the deal was substantially in favour of the club who were tryin to get rid of him. I dont believe Burro and Smith forged the deal because they liked Sargeant, they did it because they wanted him gone asap.

Sargeant had plenty of chances to perform for the club, and apart from a few really good efforts was sh*thouse.

Wicks, Smith will deal with.
 
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Pika said:
Sarg was coming back from double pneumonia in PL.

He was off the pace through the year, but in the last few rounds before he left he was close to an NRL start and probably deserved one. Everyone was aware of his frustration at not getting that start.

Sarg would have accepted being held back by quality performers in top grade, but his feelings were made clear frequently that he was not happy not getting a start behind an overweight under performing Wicks.

A lot of people were picking him well before he was ready, and thats when I said he is not yet performing at PL level yet.

I would have Sarg in my squad before Wicks any day of the week.

All the potential in the world means nothing if its not realised.

There are a hundred kids running around out there with potential to be stars. At the end of the day only a special few make it to the top through hard work and dedication.

Wicks is yet to show me anything that would suggest he will reach his potential.
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If you recall though, the discussion about Sarg on this forum was based around people suggesting he should replace Royal or Tolar. Was Wicks the only guy keeping Sarg out of NRL? If we had our full contingent on board, and Wicks was to get droppped, the first person he would make room for would surely be Cross. We had other props out earlier in the season, like Faaso, and Sarg was not the next cab off the rank. Maybe he wasn't back to his best at that stage. But even in top fettle is he so much better than other options like Taufua, White, Simmo at prop?

Wicks has obviously been picked on sufferance this year. He is overpaid and has underperformed and there's enough evidence coming from you guys in the camp to convince that he is lazy. So he's a project player and only time will tell if whatever Smith sees in him bears any results.

The fact remains that Sarg is blurring the issue. He is a good player. But we have had a surfeit of props on our books who are good but not superstars. Sarg was one of them. Laying it all on Wicks through the public media is pretty undignified of him. However true his remarks may be.
 
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macavity said:
any coincidence in us looking like world beaters since wicks got "injured" mate?
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Yeah, Wicks being out had a lot more to do with it than Bedsy returning.
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Besides both Souths and Parra were rubbish. And against the Bunnies we had a fill-in for Wicks. Vuna only got to strut his stuff for 8 minutes, during which time he managed 3 runs for 45 metres and zero tackles. So he managed to replicate what Wicks normally achieves in his 20 minute stint.
 
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BG said:
Yeah, Wicks being out had a lot more to do with it than Bedsy returning.
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Besides both Souths and Parra were rubbish. And against the Bunnies we had a fill-in for Wicks. Vuna only got to strut his stuff for 8 minutes, during which time he managed 3 runs for 45 metres and zero tackles. So he managed to replicate what Wicks normally achieves in his 20 minute stint.
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shut up.... :p

its you isnt it danny - BG stands for "Big Gut"....
 
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Tolar spent time in PL when Cross was available and we almost had a full squad of props.
 
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Big Gut seems to have the time and patience to wrap up Smithys car in (whatever it was) last year so I wouldn't put him/you past it :p
 
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