Big Tim2 said:But if he doesnt come in, the centre scores closer to the posts. Its a game of percentages. Risk coming in and the winger scoring, or staying and the centre or backrower scoring. I know which I prefer. I think that both wingers made fairly good decisions and stopped several overlaps on both sides of the field.
Big Tim2 said:The problem occurs when the opposition attack the blindside consistently and draw all the defenders to one side of the field. The defence compresses and allows the winger to have up to 3 opposition players standing outside him. The winger must rush up to try and stop the play, if it works hes a hero, if not he gets blamed for the try.
You could be silly enough to blame the winger for coming up when he has 3 players to mark, as long as you also blame the backrowers and centres for coming to the middle of the field to fill in for the players making the tackles. But then if they dont fill in for the forwards you get killed around the ruck.
Blaming the winger is narrow mindedness and shows that you do not understand how an attack exploits a defence.
Big Tim2 said:It is the cardinal sin, but there are times when you have no choice. eg.
FE SR C W
C W
Dont know about you but if I am in this situation I would be trying to stop the ball however I can, whether I make a ball and all tackle or knock down the pass from the ball player.
This is the situation Carney found himself in many times, and being at the ground and seeing the space the inside runners had, he had to come in to attempt to stop the flow of the ball.
Johns Magic said:In that case, unless you think you've got a very good chance of being able to stop the player by rushing in, you stay on your wing. Ask any international coach and he'll tell you that.
If Carney had been facing those situations 5 metres out from his own line then he might've been forced to come in, but he does it all the time.
If an attacking winger gets the ball in space, he'll see open pasture and go for it. If a centre or second-rower gets it, he has players either side of him to worry about, and cover defence coming quickly.
How often have we seen a player get outside Carney and the likes of Kidley, Gidley, Thaiday and others just not being able to bring the winger down in time?
And Carney never "came in to stop the flow of the ball". By saying that, you're implying that he rushed in to shut down the play. In reality, he just shifted in one or two spots in defence...big difference.
Big Tim2 said:If the ball goes to the centre its shut-the-gate anyway.
Big Tim2 said:Did anyone notice that the tries Carney scored were scored in the same manner as the ones scored against him?????
How can 2 Wingers make the wrong (but the identical) call 4 times??????
They are forced into the situation. This is my point.
Quinn did the same thing, I dont see people pointing him out.
Johns Magic said:He's a giant, fast, strong Maori winger