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Knights' wisdom in doubt

Frederick

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Knights' wisdom in doubt

By David Riccio | February 08, 2009 12:00am

THE Knights have taken extraordinary steps to ensure a trouble-free season, advising players to have their wisdom teeth removed to limit the chance of suffering a broken jaw.

The controversial safeguard has resulted in Richard Fa'aoso, Matt Hilder, Chris Houston, Junior Sau, Cameron Ciraldo and Keith Lulia all undergoing the painful procedure.

At least two players, including new recruit Ben Rogers, have refused to undergo the surgery.

"I must admit, it is controversial,'' Knights medical advisor Dr Neil Halpin said.

"Because the evidence isn't hard and fast.

"Talking guys into getting perfectly fine wisdom teeth out ... they sort of give you a double look and question do I really need that?

"But there's good enough evidence that taking out wisdom teeth routinely reduces the rate of jaw fractures quite markedly.

"We've been doing that at the Knights for about two years and we've cut our jaw fracture rate down enormously.''

For the past two seasons, under head coach Brian Smith, the entire Knights playing roster have been counselled about the supposed benefits of having their wisdom teeth extracted.

Halpin and local Newcastle dentist Paul Coceancig began researching the idea following the loss of star halfback Andrew Johns with a fractured jaw in 2007.

"My recollection is that he had impacted wisdom teeth,'' Halpin said.

On the advice of his medical staff, Smith said he supported any safeguard that aided the welfare of his players.

"My attitude to it is always the player's health and that it's ultimately their decision, it's not a mandatory thing,'' Smith said.

Of greater concern to Smith is the weight loss to almost every player who has undergone the procedure.

"You initially lose a bit of weight, but I was able to put it back on pretty quickly,'' hooker Matt Hilder said.

"If it keeps me on the field, then it makes sense.''
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Spike

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How many broken jaws do you get on average in the league over a season? It would be less than ACL ruptures wouldn't it? Seems pretty drastic
 

roopy

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Sounds mad.
I have the utmost respect for Dr Halpin after the work he has done over the years, so i'm sure the evidence must be there to say this is worthwhile, but you would think it would only be for wisdom teeth that give you an uneven bite?
 

Burwood

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I wonder how many other clubs do it? It's been happening for two years at Newcastle, so I'd be surprised if we were still the only club.
 

Pika

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You will not find a boxer at any respectable level with wisdom teeth.

Not to do with bite, more to do with the closeness of the wisdom tooth to the weakest part of the jaw.....
 

roopy

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I'd refuse to do it, but good to see how many of our players are prepared to go 'above and beyond the calls of duty'.
 

stuke

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rumours abound that Smithy is trying to convince Wicks to have all of his teeth removed.
 

Big Tim

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It makes sense to me.

There is nothing hard like a tooth to cause a shock to the part of the jaw..... I think it will become a mandatory thing in a few years.
 
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why do we even get wisdom teeth? whats the point? Kind of like an appendix, just a little lump of meat that does nothing.
 

Hanscholo

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Piss Halpin off. Honestly, the Dr has done nothing for our club. He let Johns roam the country side drugged out for years, and when he got busted he hung him out to dry. We have had the poorest record for injuries while he has been our club Dr and now he wants our players to undergo uneccessary surgery, which always carries a measure of risk. He offers no subtantiation that it reduces the risk of getting a broken jaw.

Broken jaws arent really an issue in the club are they? Surely there is a better Dr in Newcastle than this clown.
 

Pika

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All Halpin does is diagnose the injury at reccomends a treatment. The treatment itself and rehab was handles by...... no one util two years ago. That was why we had so many injury problems.

We now have an entire team dedicated to rehab.

Smith was behind setting it up.

Its success has been remarkable.

In regards to Johns, isnt there a Dr / client privilige thingo about not spilling your beans???? Or have I been watching to many Law & Order shows....
 

Gene Krupa

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All Halpin does is diagnose the injury at reccomends a treatment. The treatment itself and rehab was handles by...... no one util two years ago. That was why we had so many injury problems.

We now have an entire team dedicated to rehab.

Smith was behind setting it up.

Its success has been remarkable.

In regards to Johns, isnt there a Dr / client privilige thingo about not spilling your beans???? Or have I been watching to many Law & Order shows....

You are correct, it's the hypocratic oath. If he did divulge secrets, he'd never get another patient. Would you go to a doctor who blabs all your problems to another patient, spouse, friend or employer? Just goes to show how stupid some people are!
 

Raider_69

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Should cut you're players legs off before the knee's, that'll put an end to knee and ankle problems
 

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