Kyle Flanagan

[Harry Bath]

It's a case of Flanno having an each way bet with the players he has available to him and what he sees as the best way to get the win. In hindsight Flanno could have put Egan on at the start and maybe those early points by the Warriors might have been nullified or with Egan on first, the Warriors score more?

In any case we have just been a tad unlucky with the outcomes of our games. There have been many clubs in years gone by that have been in the Dragons situation - just losing and end up not in the top 8. It happens most of the time to teams that just lack quality players that can close the games out. Lady luck with decisions going a clubs way most of the time also helps. Teams make handling mistakes and the Dragons do a lot of them so the run of play alters substantially during the game causing the other teams to capitalise and score.

The Tigers have had a few years like this but now that you have several quality players in the backs and forwards these better players are now helping to close the games out to win when in the past there weren't as many to do this. Your signings have certainly improved your results and the more confident the players become, the better your team will be placed on the ladder.

the close losses will start to become blowout thrashings when the dragons have to play the likes of Cronulla(who they never beat),Roosters, Penrith, Raiders, Bullgrubs, Cowboys and a resurgent Storm

 

[Dragon David]

"The Tigers have had a few years like this but now that you have several quality players in the backs and forwards these better players are now helping to close the games out to win when in the past there weren't as many to do this. Your signings have certainly improved your results and the more confident the players become, the better your team will be placed on the ladder."

Whoops, sorry Nutz. I spoke too soon. The resurgence of the Storm after their loss against the Raiders last week taking it out on your Tigers yesterday was the pits. The Storm would have beaten any team yesterday so it was unfortunate it was the Tigers.

 

[Peach & Apricot]

Kyle would be an OK 9.

 

[Wolfgang90]

Kyle is squad depth at best, perfect for nsw cup. Steady player that you can shit between half/hooker depending on where you need to develop talent. He can play a few 1st grade games as a filler.

 

[Nutz]

Spot on. Kyle is signed until the end of 2027 Liddle is as good as gone and it's bullshit. He deserves to be the starting 9 regardless of cooks captain status we have Gutho out there..This is the favouritism and horrible selections that are Flannos decisions.. He gives Finau a game then drops him cold, then drops Illias after signing him personally and using him as a scapegoat to protect Kyle from the media but all he has done is put the spotlight on. Kyle has been shit and there is hundreds of comments from real people that are seeing the same thing. He isn't a half, but he is Flannos son. Until Flanno goes Kyle will be in the 17. The new CEO would make many fans if he didn't resign Flanno and went with something fresh. Unless we make a massive run and top 8 of course but there is more chance we get our first spoon and thats not exaggerating.

When Liddle came through our pathways he appeared to be our saviour, he could play hooker halves and even out sprinted wingers in a full length of the field try. He was so good at dummy half dashes through middle.
But as usual, Wests Tigers dumbo head office let him go along with a myriad of quality players over the years.
I can guarantee one thing, he's a players player, there's nothing selfish about this guy. Whilst Cook is a player that can help you get into the finals, when you signed him I immediately thought about Liddle.......I thought he was the one the be your long term hooker.
Kyle has more than enough quality players around him to help him do his thing, like Holmes and Gutho but just doesn't seem to ice those big moments.
Does he have a voice and take control?

 

[KingFlanno7]

Kyle would be an OK 9.

For reserve grade or local A grade maybe.

 

[Nutz]

For reserve grade or local A grade maybe.

Yeh, I can't see that happening, to cover an injury maybe.

 

[denis preston]

I don't know how anyone can say Kyle getting picked each week is not nepotism at its finest

Unless of course you work out who you would replace him with. Glover & Lilias are not exactly stand outs.

 

[Dragon David]

When Liddle came through our pathways he appeared to be our saviour, he could play hooker halves and even out sprinted wingers in a full length of the field try. He was so good at dummy half dashes through middle.
But as usual, Wests Tigers dumbo head office let him go along with a myriad of quality players over the years.
I can guarantee one thing, he's a players player, there's nothing selfish about this guy. Whilst Cook is a player that can help you get into the finals, when you signed him I immediately thought about Liddle.......I thought he was the one the be your long term hooker.
Kyle has more than enough quality players around him to help him do his thing, like Holmes and Gutho but just doesn't seem to ice those big moments.
Does he have a voice and take control?

Kyle would have a voice but I've not seen him do much vocal communication on the field and you would think that being Shane's son he would be getting into the ears of the players most of the playing time. He is part of the link between the forwards and the backs so he should be barking orders in some form or another besides what the two captains say which also appear to be limited.

If a game plan isn't working on the day, someone has got to take the reins and manage the game differently. It is not an impossible task. Although I must say Nutz that guys like Galvin and Luai had no answers against the Storm.

 

[Nutz]

Kyle would have a voice but I've not seen him do much vocal communication on the field and you would think that being Shane's son he would be getting into the ears of the players most of the playing time. He is part of the link between the forwards and the backs so he should be barking orders in some form or another besides what the two captains say which also appear to be limited.

If a game plan isn't working on the day, someone has got to take the reins and manage the game differently. It is not an impossible task. Although I must say Nutz that guys like Galvin and Luai had no answers against the Storm.

I'm hearing you mate. The sooner Galvin goes the better. Both play left side and both want to run the show. Luai has an option to go at the end of '26 so if LG doesn't go then we lose both imo. LG wants out so let him go I say.

 

[Dragon David]

I'm hearing you mate. The sooner Galvin goes the better. Both play left side and both want to run the show. Luai has an option to go at the end of '26 so if LG doesn't go then we lose both imo. LG wants out so let him go I say.

When the mix is not firing then it is time to use a different formula. Luai and Galvin don't get on now that the younger guy said he wanted out of the club so their marriage in the halves should be dissolved. It is a pity really as both can offer great service for the team and continuing into the next few years.

That big loss against the Storm would have dented the confidence of the Tigers. Benji needs to get them to forget about that game and concentrate on the next game against the Bunnies. As I have said in my previous post, the Storm would have beaten any team last weekend at home and want to add that Nelson returning boosted Bellamy's teams chances of a good win.

 

[Nutz]

When the mix is not firing then it is time to use a different formula. Luai and Galvin don't get on now that the younger guy said he wanted out of the club so their marriage in the halves should be dissolved. It is a pity really as both can offer great service for the team and continuing into the next few years.

That big loss against the Storm would have dented the confidence of the Tigers. Benji needs to get them to forget about that game and concentrate on the next game against the Bunnies. As I have said in my previous post, the Storm would have beaten any team last weekend at home and want to add that Nelson returning boosted Bellamy's teams chances of a good win.

Agree mate.
Having played centre for a huge chunk of my life I can say that combining with a ½ or ⅝ that gives quick service is totally different to one that basically gives quick service or plays out the back.
Whilst a good ½ should play anywhere a ⅝ usually has a preferred side that is inline with his dominant hand.
Luai excelled at Penrith on the left playing outside one of the best ½ backs I’ve ever seen, along with Andrew Johns...NRL era anyway.
Galvin is also a left side player and Luai isn't gelling with him.
Whilst locks having ball playing roles too, some run more and some have better offloads but the theory hasn't changed too much over the years for the halves.
I would have loved to have played outside Luai. He gives you more options and usually defends well on the inside.
Answer....Galvin goes and ensure we keep Luai and a dummy half in young DaSilva.
I'd love to have Valentine Holmes. He's all quality that guy but I'm not sold on Flanagan.
I asked whether he has a voice, meaning, does he bark orders.
Maybe it's the coach dominating him, making him quiet, I don't know. You guys will be ok. Still too early to hit the panic button.

 

[Dragon David]

Agree mate.
Having played centre for a huge chunk of my life I can say that combining with a ½ or ⅝ that gives quick service is totally different to one that basically gives quick service or plays out the back.
Whilst a good ½ should play anywhere a ⅝ usually has a preferred side that is inline with his dominant hand.
Luai excelled at Penrith on the left playing outside one of the best ½ backs I’ve ever seen, along with Andrew Johns...NRL era anyway.
Galvin is also a left side player and Luai isn't gelling with him.
Whilst locks having ball playing roles too, some run more and some have better offloads but the theory hasn't changed too much over the years for the halves.
I would have loved to have played outside Luai. He gives you more options and usually defends well on the inside.
Answer....Galvin goes and ensure we keep Luai and a dummy half in young DaSilva.
I'd love to have Valentine Holmes. He's all quality that guy but I'm not sold on Flanagan.
I asked whether he has a voice, meaning, does he bark orders.
Maybe it's the coach dominating him, making him quiet, I don't know. You guys will be ok. Still too early to hit the panic button.

Cheers former centre.