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Perth Red

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You'd think SL over the next few years will be made up of any 12 of these 14 clubs. Theres quite a gap after club 14 to the rest. It almost warrants a 14 team comp and just have these 14 clubs in from now on.

1. Leeds Rhinos – A – 17.49 – Super League

2. Wigan Warriors – A – 16.87 – Super League

3. St Helens – A – 16.78 – Super League

4. Catalans Dragons – A – 16.73 – Super League

5. Warrington Wolves – A – 15.75 – Super League

6. Hull KR – A – 15.52 – Super League

7. Hull FC – A – 15.05 – Super League

8. Salford Red Devils – B – 13.80 – Super League

9. Huddersfield Giants – B – 13.49 – Super League

10. Toulouse Olympique – B – 12.97 – Championship

11. Wakefield Trinity – B – 12.52 – Championship

12. Leigh Leopards – B – 12.45 – Super League

13. Castleford Tigers – B – 12.16 – Super League

14. Bradford Bulls – B – 12.02 – Championship
 

Perth Red

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Perth Red

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HKR havent released their scores but worked out some areas we have lost points

Points lost
0.5 Population (not much we can do about this unless HFC go bust lol)
0.25 LED and advertising screens (These are being done in the off season at craven park)
1.46 league finishing position
0.29 stadium utilisation (Crowd avg 8,793 / ground capacity 12,225)

Leaving 1.98 points lost elsewhere.
 

flippikat

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You'd think SL over the next few years will be made up of any 12 of these 14 clubs. Theres quite a gap after club 14 to the rest. It almost warrants a 14 team comp and just have these 14 clubs in from now on.

1. Leeds Rhinos – A – 17.49 – Super League

2. Wigan Warriors – A – 16.87 – Super League

3. St Helens – A – 16.78 – Super League

4. Catalans Dragons – A – 16.73 – Super League

5. Warrington Wolves – A – 15.75 – Super League

6. Hull KR – A – 15.52 – Super League

7. Hull FC – A – 15.05 – Super League

8. Salford Red Devils – B – 13.80 – Super League

9. Huddersfield Giants – B – 13.49 – Super League

10. Toulouse Olympique – B – 12.97 – Championship

11. Wakefield Trinity – B – 12.52 – Championship

12. Leigh Leopards – B – 12.45 – Super League

13. Castleford Tigers – B – 12.16 – Super League

14. Bradford Bulls – B – 12.02 – Championship
It honestly makes sense to me, to have stability for a set amount of time with these 14 teams in the Superleague.. as well as a focus on enhancing the 2nd tier clubs.

That way, when promotion pathways are reopened, there's strong clubs in the Championship ready to take a shot at it.
 

NRLMad

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NRL clubs should have a similar review done. They’re all complacent and there are millions coming to the game in the future - it would be good to take stock of where we are now and compare later
 

Diesel

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NRL clubs should have a similar review done. They’re all complacent and there are millions coming to the game in the future - it would be good to take stock of where we are now and compare later
Imagine if there was this sort of detail went into reducing the NRL to a 14 team competition for 2000. It needed to be 16
 

jason taylor

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Confirmed that League One and Championship will remain separate in 2024 with promotion/relegation dynamics to be determined before the start of the season.

Interesting that they have rejigged the 1895 Cup to give League One clubs (except for Cornwall who have opted out of it so they can split the 21 teams into 7 groups of 3) to give League One clubs more fixtures.
 

jason taylor

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And the Broncos are shutting their Elite Academy because it doesn’t benefit their IMG rating. What a farce.
 

Perth Red

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And the Broncos are shutting their Elite Academy because it doesn’t benefit their IMG rating. What a farce.
Was a really dumb idea to leave it out of IMG grading.
 

Perth Red

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Challenge Cup set for radical format change according to former Sky Sports pundit

CALLUM WALKER 13/11/2023

RUGBY LEAGUE’S oldest competition, the Challenge Cup, is set for a radical format change according to former Sky Sports pundit Eddie Hemmings.
On his Eddie and Stevo podcast alongside former Sky partner Mike ‘Stevo’ Stevenson, Hemmings revealed that the Challenge Cup will be akin to a Champions League structure for 2024.
The Challenge Cup, in place since 1897, was won by the Leigh Leopards in 2023 after an incredible final against Hull KR.

Hemmings said: “There’s something else up for the revamp of the Challenge Cup. We know the finals are going to be played next June – that’s a switch from August.
“And for the first time since 1896 they are proposing a group stage format involving 24 teams, followed by a knockout stage and then the final.
“12 Super League clubs will enter the group stages, they’ll be joined by 12 other teams, those 12 decided by a traditional knockout format in the early rounds involving Championship clubs, League One clubs and the community game.
“The group stages will involve eight groups of three, playing one at home, one away. Teams will then be seeded to ensure an even split. The eight group winners will then enter the quarter-finals and two will progress eventually to the final.

“A round-robin format was discussed but deemed to be not that popular with the clubs or the fans. Why on earth are they trying to mess about with the oldest cup competition in the world?”
If true, it would see the Challenge Cup enter a completely new phase of history.

 

Wb1234

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Challenge Cup set for radical format change according to former Sky Sports pundit

CALLUM WALKER 13/11/2023

RUGBY LEAGUE’S oldest competition, the Challenge Cup, is set for a radical format change according to former Sky Sports pundit Eddie Hemmings.
On his Eddie and Stevo podcast alongside former Sky partner Mike ‘Stevo’ Stevenson, Hemmings revealed that the Challenge Cup will be akin to a Champions League structure for 2024.
The Challenge Cup, in place since 1897, was won by the Leigh Leopards in 2023 after an incredible final against Hull KR.

Hemmings said: “There’s something else up for the revamp of the Challenge Cup. We know the finals are going to be played next June – that’s a switch from August.
“And for the first time since 1896 they are proposing a group stage format involving 24 teams, followed by a knockout stage and then the final.
“12 Super League clubs will enter the group stages, they’ll be joined by 12 other teams, those 12 decided by a traditional knockout format in the early rounds involving Championship clubs, League One clubs and the community game.
“The group stages will involve eight groups of three, playing one at home, one away. Teams will then be seeded to ensure an even split. The eight group winners will then enter the quarter-finals and two will progress eventually to the final.

“A round-robin format was discussed but deemed to be not that popular with the clubs or the fans. Why on earth are they trying to mess about with the oldest cup competition in the world?”
If true, it would see the Challenge Cup enter a completely new phase of history.

Not bad I like that
 

Perth Red

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Dont see the benefit other than clubs playing yet more games. The magic of sudden death knockout is what makes the cup special. Should go back to a straight draw. Watching the amateur sides try and take the heads off the pros was always a fun time.
 

Wb1234

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Dont see the benefit other than clubs playing yet more games. The magic of sudden death knockout is what makes the cup special. Should go back to a straight draw. Watching the amateur sides try and take the heads off the pros was always a fun time.
It’s fairer and more exciting
 

Wb1234

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more exciting than knock out? Hmmm
Did super league clubs get home games against other super league clubs or neutral grounds

you don’t think giving a team the chance to avenge their loss is interesting ?

imagine if it was hull vs kr or Wigan vs saints

I think this is a winner
 

Perth Red

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Did super league clubs get home games against other super league clubs or neutral grounds

you don’t think giving a team the chance to avenge their loss is interesting ?

imagine if it was hull vs kr or Wigan vs saints

I think this is a winner
We already have that, its called Superleague

all games are drawn. first team out has home advantage. Neutral grounds are only used for Semis and the final.
 

Wb1234

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We already have that, its called Superleague

all games are drawn. first team out has home advantage. Neutral grounds are only used for Semis and the final.
Will the semis be home grounds now ?

or is it just home and away until the semis

super league is different it’s not knock out

this will bring interest back into the cup
 

Perth Red

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Id suggest its being done to give lower league teams an extra gane against a SL team to earn a bit more cash.

If whats been suggested is true it will be

1. Knockout of lower leagues first

2. then 8 groups of 3 teams with each team playing each other once in their group ie 2 games (featuring all 12 SL clubs plus 12 lower teams from stage 1 knockouts)

3. then knockout 1/4 and semi finals

All they are changing is that middle bit giving a guaranteed extra game to be played

It'll bring some jeopardy for 4 SL clubs in that they will be in stage 2 with another SL club in their group and only one goes through. But then a straight draw brings jeopardy every round, which is why we love knockout comps
 

Wb1234

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Id suggest its being done to give lower league teams an extra gane against a SL team to earn a bit more cash.

If whats been suggested is true it will be

1. Knockout of lower leagues first

2. then 8 groups of 3 teams with each team playing each other once in their group ie 2 games (featuring all 12 SL clubs plus 12 lower teams from stage 1 knockouts)

3. then knockout 1/4 and semi finals

All they are changing is that middle bit giving a guaranteed extra game to be played
Lmao you could’ve explained that better I had to read it three times to get it
 

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