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BuffaloRules

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God youre thick, it was a figure of speech about the mail room or bingo caller. Just dont release him.

Im just saying if he wants the full payout, keep him for the length of the contract, even if he sits at home.
Dont let him pursue any job whatsoever unless he cuts a deal for a reduction in payout.

I would be pissed if we paid out the 2 years and he ran off and got another coaching gig.

You should be "pissed" with the Management of the joint for signing him to the deal you goose...
 

Fordy20

Juniors
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Yes, bad management on that but they are playing the sacking and negotiations well.

Humph is on borrowed time, he is beyond his depth that's for sure.

Responsibility for Sheens hanging around like a bad smell resides solely with the board. Comments blaming Humphreys are ignorant in the extreme. If it wasn't for Humphreys, who knows how long Sheens would have been at the helm.
 

Matchball

Bench
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Responsibility for Sheens hanging around like a bad smell resides solely with the board. Comments blaming Humphreys are ignorant in the extreme. If it wasn't for Humphreys, who knows how long Sheens would have been at the helm.

Im not complaining about Sheens hanging around. I all for leaving him hanging in limbo. He isnt a distraction to the players so it works in our favor for many reasons.

I only hold him responsible for the stupid long term deal with Sheens. That falls in his lap.
 

ACutAbove

Juniors
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Any opinions on why there was such a strong push to get rid of him as WT coach, yet he is still acceptable as our national coach?
 

innsaneink

Referee
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Any opinions on why there was such a strong push to get rid of him as WT coach, yet he is still acceptable as our national coach?


Jecinta Campbell could coach the Roos.....hes not allowed to play Thurston at 9 or Slater at 7 either, the ARL heirarchy wont tolerate his psycho selections that WTs did


He has about 90 odd % win rate with Roos, while he couldnt average 1 from two with us over a farkin decade
 

851

Bench
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Jecinta Campbell could coach the Roos.....hes not allowed to play Thurston at 9 or Slater at 7 either, the ARL heirarchy wont tolerate his psycho selections that WTs did


He has about 90 odd % win rate with Roos, while he couldnt average 1 from two with us over a farkin decade
So true,he bluffed his way along with our board and ceo for far too long.
 

innsaneink

Referee
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Tim Sheens re-appointed Kangaroos coach but Wests Tigers situation unresolved




http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ation-unresolved/story-e6frexnr-1226528125312

TIM Sheens has been re-appointed as Kangaroos coach until after next year's World Cup, but his future at Wests Tigers remains unresolved.

The Australian Rugby League Commission will today rubber-stamp Sheens as Roos coach for another 12 months after 17 wins from 18 Tests.

With his role as the Australian coach ratified, attention will switch to Sheens' stand-off with Wests Tigers, where he was sacked as head coach in September with two years remaining on his deal.

Sheens refuses to discuss the situation at the Tigers, where new coach Mick Potter has taken over and set about implementing a hardline regime.

For the time being, Sheens said his sole focus will be the Australian role and trying to win back the World Cup won by New Zealand in 2008.

"I'm happy to have been re-appointed again. I really enjoy the role and working with the players and to get the opportunity to try to win back the title of world champions is something that's been important to all of us for quite a while," Sheens said.

"I'm not prepared to talk about the Tigers, but on the Australian role, it's going to be a huge year with a tour to the UK for the World Cup at the end of next year and it's a challenge everyone is excited about. I've always said it's a huge honour to be appointed the Australian coach."

Australia will play a one-off Test against New Zealand in Canberra in April.

NRL general manager of league integration and game development, Andrew Hill, extended Sheens' tenure.

"In the past, the Australian coach did the same as the players and just turned up in camp. Now he will be able to help increase the profile of the Kangaroos, which is important in a World Cup year," Hill said.

"Whilst the position is not full-time, Tim will also play a greater role in helping develop pathways for our Junior Kangaroos, Australian Schoolboys and emerging Origin teams.

"Tim and the playing group are eager to regain the World Cup from New Zealand and having Tim's involvement with the high performance pathways will ensure our team is well prepared."
 

Magpies Forever

Juniors
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Congrats Tim Sheens, now please just get off your high horse and reach and accommodation with WT and clear the decks there with some grace.
 

BrotherJim05

Bench
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Congrats Tim Sheens, now please just get off your high horse and reach and accommodation with WT and clear the decks there with some grace.

Sheens isn't on any high horse. We gave him a contract which he signed. We have to honour that contract.

WT are the ones who should be graceful and pay out what he is owed.
 

super_coach

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The WestsTigers are Sheens current employer,to coach the Aussie side he would need the blessing from his current employer. Now I would imagine the legal people from both camps would be talking about this, but if they are not Sheens should be told that he cant coach the Aussie side till a reduced payout has been brokered. I would say what ever he gets for the Aussie job comes off his Payout for starters and I would try and reduce it further
 

Matchball

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The WestsTigers are Sheens current employer,to coach the Aussie side he would need the blessing from his current employer. Now I would imagine the legal people from both camps would be talking about this, but if they are not Sheens should be told that he cant coach the Aussie side till a reduced payout has been brokered. I would say what ever he gets for the Aussie job comes off his Payout for starters and I would try and reduce it further

Yes. All of this.
Legally we own him.
 

Magpies Forever

Juniors
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Agreed fully. Play hardball with the egoist. If he looses the Kangaroo job because WT dont release him, because he wont negotiate on his payout, who is loosing out? WT potentially are no worse off if he sticks to his wish, only Sheens looses in that the looses the national coaches job. So be it. Since he apparently has renigned on his 'walkaway if WT dont make semi's' WT owe him nothing in terms of respect and honour. I know contracts are different beasts but these things can be negotiated out or if necessary settled in court.

Edit- lets also be aware that WT get no publicity value in Sheens being Kangaroos coach now, not that I reckon it made much difference him being Roos coach previously. PLayers were not beating down McDonnells door to be signed by WT under Sheens, so WT shouldnt care if he keeps the job or not. The question they should be asking him is 'whats in it for us in agreeing to this?'.
 
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magpie_man

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The WestsTigers are Sheens current employer,to coach the Aussie side he would need the blessing from his current employer. Now I would imagine the legal people from both camps would be talking about this, but if they are not Sheens should be told that he cant coach the Aussie side till a reduced payout has been brokered. I would say what ever he gets for the Aussie job comes off his Payout for starters and I would try and reduce it further

i'd imagine that there's a clause written-into sheens' WT contract allowing him to take-on additional ad hoc coaching roles for representative teams only, without it affecting his WT contract or wages.
 

super_coach

First Grade
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i'd imagine that there's a clause written-into sheens' WT contract allowing him to take-on additional ad hoc coaching roles for representative teams only, without it affecting his WT contract or wages.


Iam not so sure, I think the club would have the final say unless Sheens had it written into his contact and he is cunning old fox
 

magpie_man

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Iam not so sure, I think the club would have the final say unless Sheens had it written into his contact and he is cunning old fox

It wouldn't surprise me at all to be honest; the navel-gazing old git was still being celebrated as the modern-day messiah by the club at the time of his renegotiating his new contract.
 

innsaneink

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i'd imagine that there's a clause written-into sheens' WT contract allowing him to take-on additional ad hoc coaching roles for representative teams only, without it affecting his WT contract or wages.


Something like this must exist, as you'd imagine it would for players too.
 

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