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600K each for Moses and Brooks. I feel sick. This club will be crippled for the next five years by these underperformers. A couple of spoons coming our way. This club is f**ked and deserves everything it gets.

In many years of supporting, even the amalgamation, Ive never been this low.
 

magpie4ever

First Grade
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Extended contracts with an annual payment of 600k in the final year and they had not played a full season in 1st grade. In fact the majority of NRL games these two had played at the time the performances were at best average. And have got bloody worse.

Thanks Mayer, you bent us over and f**ked us - revenge Manly style.
 

Magpies Forever

Juniors
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600K each for Moses and Brooks. I feel sick. This club will be crippled for the next five years by these underperformers. A couple of spoons coming our way. This club is f**ked and deserves everything it gets.

In many years of supporting, even the amalgamation, Ive never been this low.

Pretty much how I feel. This only confirms what we suspected here in the forum that, in chasing Brooks & Moses when a couple of other clubs were supposedly sniffing around, we paid significantly higher $$$ than their efforts to date, and even potential- since it was in no way even half way to proven- demanded. To be honest I hope they bail out and go elsewhere, they don't deserve the money at this stage of their careers. And such a one sided contract for learners?

How dare Mayer and the old board. This club sucks big time at the moment. Pushed over the salary cap by 2 x learners? F***ing incredible!!! Playing roster wrecked, players forced out, forced to rely on the unready, undeveloped juniors- and they expect us to shell out our hard earned over the next few years supporting this uncompetitive rabble?????? Not me. Let the club sort this mess out first.
 

innsaneink

Referee
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"We believe we have some of the best young talent in the game, everyone tells us that,..."
Who? Rabbits? Joey? Some other media tarts? FMD:crazy:

Seriously, I feel like giving up and finding some other team to support after reading that load of crap. She talks about the team like it's a retail business with a temporary sales problem.

Moses will be on $600K in 2017 if he chooses to stay. They were so blinded by his fairytale that they couldn't see Blake Austin was already there and could achieve twice as much THIS YEAR on half the pay.


""That's why [coach] Jason [Taylor] is committed to sticking with the team he's got because, if not, we won't have that winning team in three years, which is when we expect to have it."

Sounds like it was composed by her 12 yo son...f**king amatuer from a so called professional

Theyre getting desperate

I only cough up one or 2 hundred a year to the club for my membership...sfa really....its not the money its the priciple when I now know mine and others moneys being pissed up against the wall....decent pair of jeans or shoes for me next year would be more worthwile for my money
 
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If this pair could steer the WT into the top four in two years and keep us there about in the following years i wouldn't have a problem with the 600k,atm based on their performances they should only be on about 60k.
 

BrotherJim05

Bench
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I hope the option in 2017 also works in our favour, that we can move them on if they are underperforming.

You never know. They might kick on and be worth every cent.

I really think we deserve a detailed explanation of exactly where we are at with the salary cap. Usually I wouldn't expect this but we deserve to know where our money is being spent.

Losing Keithy and Richards is going to be an issue for us. They may not have been our best but now we literally have no experienced players on our roster.
 

FootynRacing

Juniors
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Pretty much how I feel. This only confirms what we suspected here in the forum that, in chasing Brooks & Moses when a couple of other clubs were supposedly sniffing around, we paid significantly higher $$$ than their efforts to date, and even potential- since it was in no way even half way to proven- demanded. To be honest I hope they bail out and go elsewhere, they don't deserve the money at this stage of their careers. And such a one sided contract for learners?

How dare Mayer and the old board. This club sucks big time at the moment. Pushed over the salary cap by 2 x learners? F***ing incredible!!! Playing roster wrecked, players forced out, forced to rely on the unready, undeveloped juniors- and they expect us to shell out our hard earned over the next few years supporting this uncompetitive rabble?????? Not me. Let the club sort this mess out first.
No chance of them bailing out when they can stay and pocket $600k. No other club will be stupid enough to offer them anywhere near that. Unbelievable !!!
 

FootynRacing

Juniors
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And to think that when people talk about our young stars coming through, this club was only prepared to lose one of them in Tedesco to the Raiders. They made sure they had Brooks, Moses and Sironen locked in for years to come. Madness !!!
 
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Losing Keithy and Richards is going to be an issue for us. They may not have been our best but now we qliterally have no experienced players on our roster.

Brother Jim, I hear you but, not only have they not been our best as you said, what have they really offered? Keith has been very much a plodder, would have loved to have seen him run with some power and venom like a Fui Fui but we never have and certainly never will going forward. Richards whilst his kicking game has been brilliant, has not offered much on the wing and don't forget his speed, or lack of it.

Experience wise, well on training days they get hopefully the experience of the coach and his assistant, doesn't matter what we think of those two as coaches they have experience. Game day, it's why we need a fit & healthy Farah 1st and foremost. Then we add in Woods, all coaches say that guys returning from SOO bring so much more back to a club. Woods now has that, then there's Lawrence and I think besides his efforts in converting to a back rower, it's why he might be retained. Halatau offers experience to the squad as well.

What we don't have is a centre with the experience to add value out wide. Trouble with recruiting 1 centre though is he a left or right centre? Does Brooks or Moses get the benefit of playing with that experienced centre as one of those has to play left or right only.

Teddy, although young, provides experience at the back now.

If there is a salary cap issue!! We will be stuck with what we have, what we then need is some luck with injury. I don't rate him and he did play well last Friday night but Siro didn't train last off season, we need him, David N and Tim S to have an injury free off season so they train together.
 
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I'm not fussed at all about losing Keithy or Pat. If the experience they offer was truly valuable, we wouldn't be getting pantsed by 20-30 points a week.

I'm seriously over this club, we've been in a perpetual state of rebuilding since 2012. The club has been plagued with cancerous self serving management since it's inception and it's at the point now where it's terminal and I don't believe the club can recover from it.
 

wittyfan

Immortal
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Wests Tigers' Luke Brooks and Mitchell Moses trying to live up to hype
Tom Decent
Journalist


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Luke Brooks and Mitchell Moses are in a position that would be the envy of most up-and-coming league players, but they sometimes wish things were different.

Halfback and five-eighth of the Wests Tigers, aged just 20 and with the potential to reach the very top of their profession, we were told, and they were told, they were destined for greatness.

That may yet come to pass, but at the moment they are playmakers in a Tigers team which stands a genuine chance of being this year's wooden-spooners.

It's not a situation anyone wants to be in, let alone two inexperienced players yet to celebrate their 21st birthdays.
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The hype about Brooks and Moses, who are products of the well-renowned league nursery Holy Cross College Ryde, was rife last season as the pair made their first-grade debuts, but a year down the track and with their team staring down the barrel of a sixth consecutive loss, the pair agree the adulation was distracting and unnecessary.

" It [the hype] is frustrating, but you've got to put up with it," said Brooks, who was named last year's Dally M rookie of the year. " It's not something you want when you're coming into first grade. There was a fair bit of hype about us before we'd even played a game, so there was a fair bit of expectation.

"It's not something I think they [the media] should do but you can't really stop it. I think it's a bit unfair on players coming through who haven't really played. They really hype them up and if they play a bad game everyone says they're not as good as they are. When you lose, a lot of criticism goes on the halves and the opposite when you're winning. You've just got to get used to that."

Their coach at school Tim White, described them in 2013 as "among the brightest prospects I have seen in rugby league since Jarrod Mullen and Mitchell Pearce in 2005" and had potential to surpass Benji Marshall when he was at the Tigers.

Brooks and Moses cannot shoulder all the blame for the Tigers' poor performances this year, in which they have only won five games, but the personal expectations of the two 20-year-olds destined for greatness means they will happily accept the criticism.

"We definitely take that [blame for the season] on our shoulders and that's how I've wanted to have it," Moses said. "I don't make excuses for myself. I haven't been up to scratch this year and I definitely haven't been happy with my games."

After a game, the pair discuss how and what went wrong, and are working constantly to change people's perceptions that they are two youngsters debilitated by chronic second-year syndrome.

"Our performances haven't shown people what we can do," Moses said. "I just wanted to do my job and play good footy week in week out which I haven't been able to do.

"It's probably been good for our football, learning the hard way, [and] the best thing for 'futuring' our careers."

Despite their mixed form in 2015, coach Jason Taylor is sticking by the duo, who first teamed up as 11 year olds for New South Wales in a school side. The faith offered by Taylor is something Brooks says he wants to quickly repay.

" We've got to take a bit of ownership and we can't keep using our age as an excuse," Brooks said. "It has been tossed around that we are young side but we've all played a few games. In a perfect world you wouldn't have people talking you up and then on the opposite side bagging you when you lose. I think you've got to get used to it."

Source: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...rying-to-live-up-to-hype-20150727-gilfz7.html
 
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