Looks like we're last tonight.....

[Parra]

lol@short term focus.

Accountability. Not focus. These are different things.

This is not the public service.

 

[CrazyEel]

There is nothing wrong with accountability.

The lack of accountability causes problems.

The majority only has a say at elections. That is when members will hold people accountable.

Members did endorse the board's decision on DA by returning the board at this years elections and will judge them again in another 18 months so what is your problem? Just because you want Kearney sacked doesn't mean he should be or that the majority agree with you. I reckon everyone on this forum knows your opinion on the matter so why keep banging on about it?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

There is nothing wrong with accountability.

The lack of accountability causes problems.

The majority only has a say at elections. That is when members will hold people accountable.

Good post.

If you're not happy, do something about it at election time.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

That must be why everyone's falling over each other to offer Hagan and Stuart jobs at NRL clubs. :roll:

What are you on about?

Hagan and Stuart won premierships in their first season, but still aren't considered good enough to coach first grade. It's pretty self-explanatory.

Aren't considered good enough to coach first grade by who?

Geez you just make shit up.

 

[Parra]

Members did endorse the board's decision on DA by returning the board at this years elections and will judge them again in another 18 months so what is your problem? Just because you want Kearney sacked doesn't mean he should be or that the majority agree with you. I reckon everyone on this forum knows your opinion on the matter so why keep banging on about it?

Why should it be left to the members to do the heavy lifting?

These staff are paid decent money. Making decisions is part of the job.

Putting up with mediocrity is a politicians game.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So based on their massive success, you justify Sk's massive failure?

Is that your point?

My point is, their 'massive success' was obviously on the back of squads they inherited, just like Kearney's 'massive failure'.

None of them can be held responsible for the quality of the squads they've inherited, which is why Kearney won't get the sack until at least next year, and why Hagan and Stuart aren't considered coaching gurus.

Because first year results for a coach are meaningless to the big picture.

 

[Parra]

Bullshit.

None of those teams coached themselves.

 

[Parra]

Let's leave the year and the reasons for the worst season in living memory behind. Can we expect some accountability in the future?

What is the criteria for success in 2012?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Aren't considered good enough to coach first grade by who?

By anybody, obviously. If they were considered good enough they'd have jobs coaching first grade.

f**k, Hagan quit outright. That shows even he doesn't think he's good enough to coach first grade. You saying he's wrong?

Stuart's said he's looking for a job in the NRL but as far as I can see he's stuck with the sky blue poisoned chalice of Origin.

Geez you just make shit up.

If it looks like a failed first grade coach, and it smells like a failed first grade coach...

It's probably Ricky Stuart or Michael Hagan. Could even be somebody else closer to home.

 

[CrazyEel]

Why should it be left to the members to do the heavy lifting?

These staff are paid decent money. Making decisions is part of the job.

Putting up with mediocrity is a politicians game.

As much as it might annoy you your opinion has no more value than anyone elses and I don't agree with what you want done. IMO the staff are doing the right thing and should be given the time to complete it and I do believe that is what the majority want as well.

Sorry but it just seems to me you can't cope with not getting what you want.

 

[Parra]

As much as it might annoy you your opinion has no more value than anyone elses and I don't agree with what you want done. IMO the staff are doing the right thing and should be given the time to complete it and I do believe that is what the majority want as well.

Sorry but it just seems to me you can't cope with not getting what you want.

I'm sick of weak excuses. Sounds like I'll have to put up with some more if you get your way.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Bullshit.

None of those teams coached themselves.

But both of those teams went downhill under said coaches.

Someone else assembled the side for them, and then they spent the next few years turning them to shit. Then went on to repeat the act at new clubs (shredding the roster, not winning a premiership).

 

[Parra]

But both of those teams went downhill under said coaches.

Someone else assembled the side for them, and then they spent the next few years turning them to shit. Then went on to repeat the act at new clubs (shredding the roster, not winning a premiership).

They just needed a spin doctor with your skills to explain why is was all the fault of players who left, injuries, unlucky calls in crucial games. All the BS you have trotted out this year would suit them just fine.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Let's leave the year and the reasons for the worst season in living memory behind. Can we expect some accountability in the future?

What is the criteria for success in 2012?

I reckon we should be making the 8 next year. We'll have the squad to do it.

If we finish bottom 4 I'll be calling for Kearney's head and I don't believe a coach should be retained for the final year of his contract if he won't be re-signed.

The club has already proven they're prepared to be ruthless with underperforming coaches so I don't see why this would change for Kearney.

 

[IFR33K]

Whose poor form?

You mean the coach? A coach's form isn't judged over one season you twit.

Whether he wins the comp in his first season or runs last it's got little to do with the coach. That's why Hagan and Stuart struggle to get jobs at club level despite winning premierships in their first year in charge.

It had f**k all to do with them.

Hey Pou Pou, so then who do you credit for the Eels 09 run to the GF.

Is it Hagan or DA

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They just needed a spin doctor with your skills to explain why is was all the fault of players who left, injuries, unlucky calls in crucial games. All the BS you have trotted out this year would suit them just fine.

Maybe you should run for the board. Being a fan is clearly no good for your mental health.

 

[CrazyEel]

I'm sick of weak excuses. Sounds like I'll have to put up with some more if you get your way.

LOL, it's not like you have a great track record to fall back on is it, how many comps have we won in the last 25 years? How long are you referring to with being sick of weak excuses?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Hey Pou Pou, so then who do you credit for the Eels 09 run to the GF.

Is it Hagan or DA

It was all luck. That was proven by missing the finals in '08 and '10.

Just like the Roosters run last year.

 

[CrazyEel]

Hey Pou Pou, so then who do you credit for the Eels 09 run to the GF.

Is it Hagan or DA

That truly is a silly question, quite simply no Hayne no semis let alone GF. If you think otherwise you are deluded.

 

[Parra]

LOL, it's not like you have a great track record to fall back on is it, how many comps have we won in the last 25 years? How long are you referring to with being sick of weak excuses?

With the way the SK defence is being run the question is how many wooden spoons have been tolerated? How many seasons with 5 wins have been described as acceptable?

WTF made you think winning the comp was on the agenda?