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Can't we all just get along and unite to laugh at Liverpool?
How would we have got him for 25? He was sold for 32. It was reported you asked for 23 and we agreed on it. Then you went back and asked for over 30.
Come on bud. Get those white tinted glasses off, (i guess you have two pairs of those ;-)), as a player Suarez is better than Higuain. You won't find me arguing what Suarez is like as a person though.
I'm not defending Bunniesman, i'm defending Arsenal.
No i don't, because there isn't any there. Wenger obviously sees Suarez for 40-50 mill as a better deal than Higuain for 32. It's obviously a risky move because we may not even end up with him, but that's how he's decided to do things this window. He's played it safe for almost a decade, it's about time he took some risks. Paying 32 million wasn't the problem. Paying 32 million for Higuain was.
It's that sort of thinking that lead you guys to buying average players like Adebayor, Sigurdson and Dempsey and not going for a decent striker. You could've spent that 10-13 mill on someone like Damiao.
It's impossible to tell at this stage if he's made the right decision or not.
50 million + Gervais Out = Rooney, Bernard and Capoue
Wasn't the big hub-bub when the deal stalled that the clubs were a few million in difference? It doesn't surprise me that he went to Napoli for 32 million as Madrid would've known Napoli were a lot more desperate and willing to spend after they sold Cavani. Didn't Napoli only really come into the picture after Madrid raised their price?
I didn't say I think that way, I said some do. Regardless, the difference is nowhere near worth 18+ million pounds, and I've watched both of them enough to know that.
And so you shouldn't. The idiot is the literal kiss of death. I pray you manage to pick up Suarez, but the adage must be repeated, "at what cost".
And this is my - and others - issue with Wenger. 32 million for Higuain is a better deal than you will find for many strikers of his quality; heck, Spurs are probably about to sign Soldado from Valencia for around 26 million, and he has a good couple of years on Higs.
Going for Suarez for probably more than 50 million - you watch, the more desperate Arsenal become, the more Liverpool will raise the stakes - particularly given Liverpool don't want to strengthen Arsenal at any point is not only incredibly risky, particularly given his dramas, but many would say absolutely moronic. Suarez may be the better player, but he's not worth 18 million more and he is not worth the gamble of your big transfer target when Liverpool may turn around and add an additional ten million on the current asking value just to ward Arsenal off.
If they sign him, he will of course do well. My issue is, they could have had very similar returns for much less.
It's impossible to tell darn near anything, but that doesn't excuse anyone from calling it out as poor judgement. You imply that we made a mistake by getting Adebayor, Dempsey and Sigurddson, but even though it hampered us last season, not getting Damiao may pave the way for us getting someone better.
Well I'm going to say - as I'm sure many others will - that Higuain would have been the better deal, especially given the Arsenal midfield, and avoided a potentially listless transfer window than going for Suarez.
By the way, Siggy was a cheap squad signing and utility player. We signed him well before we were in for Moutinho, so he was hardly a "desperation" signing or anything of the sort.
It coincided with Napoli selling Cavani. Madrid knew Napoli had money and were desperate for a striker. Personally i think we made a mistake parading our 70m transfer budget around. You guys knew we had the money and after haggling for a few weeks realized we could afford more and you raised the price.
There's obviously not 18m pounds difference. But that's what you've gotta pay when you're buying from a "rival".
I have no doubt in my mind that if someone like PSG or Madrid came in for Suarez they'd be able to pick him up for 40 mill.
He's borderline world class. He was pushing Van Persie all the way last season for the golden boot till the merkin went and bit someone.
Soldado is a year or two off 30 and has never played in the PL. You'd be have been better off going for Benteke for that money imo. Obviously it's too late now but if you had offered Villa 26 i think you would have got him.
It could could work both ways. The dickhead is suspended for the first 6 games so it doesn't matter if we have to wait till deadline day to pick him up. They won't want to hold onto a player as miserable as he is for another year and they'll want to move him on with enough time to bring someone else in.
I'm guessing Wenger thought he was going to be able to get Suarez for 40. Reports are going around that both Suarez and his agent thought that 40m clause was a release clause so it wouldn't be so outlandish that Wenger may have thought the same.
Not getting Damiao last season cost you a CL spot.
That's how Wenger is playing it. He's probably tired of looking for the best deal. That's how he ended up with players like Gervinho. As i've said, it's a risky move but it's too early to say it hasn't worked out for him.
How much was Sigurdson. A quick wiki search shows it was 9 mill. That's not cheap for a squaddie. Especially for a team who has f**k all money. As Twizz pointed out earlier.
I wasn't saying he was a panic buy btw. I was just pointing out that going for quality over quantity doesn't always work.
If you didn't jump the gun and go for Sigurdson so early you probably would have got Moutinho. If we got Higuain for 32 and Suarez went to Madrid for 40 everyone would be asking why we didn't just stump up another 8 mill and gone for a PL proven striker.
It's way too early to say if Wenger has made the right move or not.
I think we need a bit of nasty in us. We've been too nice too often and it has cost us games and trophies. We crumbled in 2011 when we had a real chance at winning the league in the run home. We've crumbled countless times in cups.
Being a bit nasty could have been the difference between winning and losing to Barca in 2011, Milan in 2012 and Bayern in 2013.
Suarez is a dog, and I think we need some of that.
And as nice as they were it didn't stop RVP and Fabregas leaving us. So I'm not attached to individual players as much anymore. All I care about is improving our chances at winning the league, and Suarez does that.
Yes, please.Suarez to Madrid for 40mill
Rooney to Chelsea for 30Mill
Torres to Arsenal for 17mill