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Manly Salary Cap

The Beaver

Juniors
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what are Bozo & co trying to hide that's seen them rush off to the lawyers?

sounds like a case of you can look but can't look too hard

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...t/news-story/fb81147f0e31a1a31a840719f19f440f

Manly salary cap probe a test of strength for NRL integrity unit

The NRL’s salary cap investigation into Manly is turning into a litmus test for the powers of the game’s integrity unit as the Sea Eagles take legal advice over the amount of information they are required to turn over to the governing body.

After initially vowing to do everything in their remit to have the investigation concluded as quickly as possible, the Sea Eagles were left stunned by the depth and breadth of information demanded by the integrity unit.

It is understood Manly have responded to the request for an avalanche of information by taking legal advice over what the club and players are required to hand over under NRL rules.

The latest developments have the potential to stall a process that both parties were intent on bringing to a rapid conclusion. While Manly prepare to dig in their heels, it is understood the NRL is of the view that they are only acting at the invitation of the Sea Eagles, who said they would happily throw open their books.

The game’s governing body also believe they would be negligent to ignore the current allegations given they have come as a result of a police investigation into claims of match-fixing surrounding two Manly games, which were subsequently found to have no substance.

The NRL has also reinforced the point that no private information such as bank records and personal emails were leaked out of the investigation into salary cap breaches at Parramatta, so Manly should have few concerns.

At the heart of the impasse are rules 48 of the Code of Conduct and rule 111A of the NRL playing contract and renumeration rules.

Section 48 of the Code of Conduct refers to the copying of computer data and says the NRL may take possession of computer hard drives, laptops and portable hard drives.

Further, they are empowered to download from the internet server and copy data. Clubs are also required to provide the password where data on an internet sever, laptop, computer hard drive or personal hard drive are password protected.

The clause further adds that the powers conferred on the integrity unit “must be clearly understood by all clubs because it will not be an excuse for any club to deny the exercise of those powers on the ground that personal or other information is saved, stored, copied or backed up on an internet server, laptop, computer hard drive, portable hard drive or other”.

Section 111A of the rules surrounding player contracts and renumeration mirrors those clauses. The butting of heads between the Manly and the integrity unit comes as the code attempts to navigate negotiations over access to tax records and bank accounts of players as part of the next collective bargaining agreement.

NRL officials, including chief executive Todd Greenberg, held talks with representatives of the Rugby League Players Association yesterday as they attempt to broker a deal over the game’s key issues, chiefly an agreement on the game’s revenues and salary cap from next season.

The parties are also yet to reach agreement on a range of integrity issues, including the NRL’s desire to have greater access to bank accounts, tax returns and phone records of the players.

The Australian revealed earlier this year that the NRL wanted the right to demand bank account details and tax records if they had “reasonable suspicion” something untoward had taken place.

The players’ union response has been to request more transparency around integrity issues. In the 66-page document outlining the RLPA’s demands as part of the collective bargaining agreement negotiations, the union asked to be informed at the same time as a player and provided with related intelligence if there is an investigation into an incident or behaviour.

They further asked that monthly meetings be held between the RLPA and NRL to provide briefings on any issues and requested that all codes and policies be agreed between the two parties.

They further insisted that systems and measures be put in place to protect players’ privacy and confidential information. While the players have been reluctant to give the integrity unit unfettered access to documents, it is understood they would be willing to compromise on a range of issues if the NRL was willing to consider their request for a guaranteed share of revenue.

If some of the information they're requesting is difficult to provide and seems to be inconsequential, then they should ask why they need to provide it. The organisation still needs to operate while this investigation goes ahead, so if the NRL are wasting their time with ridiculous requests then Manly shouldn't just cave in.

Sounds like the NRL have no idea what they are looking for and how they can find it, so, as the article says, they've asked for an "avalanche of information".

Keep wishing for a guilty verdict so you can feel better about Parramatta's cheating and failing ways though.
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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conspiracy theories and excuses

what's Bozo scared of them finding? his nude selfies or something dodgy?

maybe both
 

thorson1987

Coach
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I f**king love how fans (in here) of a team under investigation reckon they know what the truth is.
Of course their team has never done anything wrong.

We all do it.

haha yep.

Remember Parra last year.

"it's all a beat up"
"we are a big club that sells papers"
"all clubs do it" (strangely not a valid excuse for us in 2010 though)
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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94,107
strip them of their points for refusing to cooperate

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ops-to-nrl-investigators-20170721-gxfzrv.html

Manly Sea Eagles refuse to hand over laptops to NRL investigators
  • Nick McKenzie, Kate McClymont, Richard Baker
Despite promises to "cooperate fully" with NRL investigators, the Manly Sea Eagles are refusing to hand over laptops to the league's salary cap auditors.

The behind-the-scenes tussle over access to the laptops stems from a dispute as to whether the NRL investigators are entitled to examine privately-owned laptops as opposed to club-issued ones.

"Manly claims it has nothing to hide but they are refusing to give the full access they have promised in the media. It is a joke," a source said.

Manly is claiming that it is not lawfully obliged to give the personal computers to the NRL integrity unit.

However, according to its rules, the NRL Integrity and Compliance Unit can seek access to laptops, computer hard drives, smartphones, tablets and other devices. The rules also state that clubs are required to provide the necessary passwords.

It is understood that a senior club official, who has been identified in separate NSW police investigations as the likely architect of the suspected salary cap breaches, is supporting Manly's refusal to hand over personal laptops.

The Sea Eagle's refusal to hand over laptops could lead to sanctions, a court battle and a lengthy stand-off between the NRL and the club.

"Our lawyers are engaged in a discussion with Manly over the material they are seeking," an NRL spokesman told Fairfax Media.

For its part, a spokesman for the club said: "The NRL has advised us that this is a confidential investigation process. Accordingly, I am sure you understand the club is unable to comment on matters relating to the NRL investigation process."

Earlier this week, the Manly Sea Eagles majority owner Scott Penn implored the NRL's integrity unit to produce any information they have that suggests a breach of the competition's salary cap rules after investigators descended upon the club's Narrabeen offices.

Fairfax Media recently revealed that the club was under a cloud over allegations that several high-profile Manly players may have taken secret benefits or payments in cash in breach of salary cap rules.

Integrity unit investigators arrived at the club's headquarters on Wednesday armed with a written request for reams of emails and other documentation.

After investigators arrived, Penn said the visit had been arranged by him after he met with NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg and chief operating officer Nick Weeks on Tuesday.

"We've got nothing to hide," Penn said. "[I told them] 'if you've got something we should be worried about let's bring it out'.

"[The investigators] came down with a very large letter of information that they want so we're working through that at the moment and working with the integrity unit guys. We're asking how do we narrow this down a bit?

"We don't want to distract our staff unduly therefore 'can you narrow the range of information?'. Are we going back a year, five years? If we don't narrow the focus it could take months."

But Fairfax Media can reveal that Manly has been blocking requests to hand over laptops which the NRL is arguing it needs to examine in order to complete its investigation.

The information about Manly's suspected salary cap breaches has been obtained during the NSW Organised Crime Squad's ongoing investigation into allegations of match-fixing.

Strike Force Nuralda was established in September last year to investigate allegations of match-fixing that had rocked the code.

The investigation found no evidence of systemic match-fixing but it has uncovered a lucrative trade in inside information, which is itself a criminal offence. On top of that, detectives have also been informed of a number of potential salary cap breaches with undisclosed third-party payments being made to players from a number of clubs, including Manly.

The strike force has been aided in its investigation by the NSW Crime Commission, which has used its extraordinary powers to compel players, officials and others to give evidence in camera.

Over the past month, several high-profile current and former Manly players have been called to give evidence at the Crime Commission's Kent Street offices.

It is understood that intelligence has been gathered about a large sum of cash being handed over in a car park to a then Manly player. Another star Manly player is also the subject of allegations involving undisclosed player payments.

This week the NRL offered immunity to Manly officials in exchange for coming clean over potential breaches.

Sources have told Fairfax Media that the NRL's integrity unit has approached at least two current Sea Eagles officials suspected of having knowledge of undeclared player payments, and encouraged them to come clean.

The officials have been told they can take advantage of a moratorium period in which penalties are waived to encourage full disclosure.

Should Manly agree to co-operate fully, the NRL's code of conduct can grant a moratorium period for full and complete disclosure. In return, the NRL can waive potential fines and loss of points.

To date, Manly officials have been bullish in rejecting any suggestion of wrongdoing.

"There are no allegations in relation to any irregularities with regard to the club's salary cap," the club said in a press release responding to Fairfax Media's revelations that the club would be the subject of an integrity probe."
 

Perth Red

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So you would expect the nrl to ignore a police report to them indicating cap cheating? Could you imagine the headlines if that happened? Given the weight of their response it would indicate that the police report had some substantiated evidence. Every major cap scandal has been instigated by a whistle-blower, time will tell if this is the next one.
 

Ring Gids

Juniors
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Ha, if Manly succeeds in preventing the NRL accessing privately owned laptops, expect every club to instigate a BYO device policy for employees within weeks.
 

simmo05

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I could totally picture these two on the hill at Brookie yelling out "f**king smash him" and "If I wasn't manly I'd be a dragqueen" every 30 seconds
Is the one on the left the one stewart fingered?
 

Rabbit toes

First Grade
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Meh I just don't care anymore. Every year it's some bullshit with a club or its players, desensitisation at its finest.

Until charges are laid, points stripped etc it's really just a clusterf**k of differing opinions.
 
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