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Manly - The PRIDE of the league

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I don't think it is the players/Clubs that are the issue.

X player comes out, The press will go crazy about it and the pressure would be nuts. There would no private life, sad really but I get the want to keep such stuff private
I think it is difficult to say that it is not the players; if a gay Manly player was thinking about bringing his partner to a club function he now has to be thinking ‘what are a quarter of my teammates going to think of me?’

But agree that it also includes the wider community.
 

Ozzi_78

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I don't think it is the players/Clubs that are the issue.

X player comes out, The press will go crazy about it and the pressure would be nuts. There would no private life, sad really but I get the want to keep such stuff private
The point is that 20 years ago you’d be bashed for coming out, now it’s like meh good for you.

Until coming out in sport is “normalised” there will still be this huge unnecessary uproar over a person speaking up.

There should be a coming out round where they all do it at the same time, will be news for a day then who the f**k cares.

Disclaimer - I don’t think that have to come out at all but they should feel like they can if they want to. Right now they don’t feel safe at all.
 

Iamback

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I think it is difficult to say that it is not the players; if a gay Manly player was thinking about bringing his partner to a club function he now has to be thinking ‘what are a quarter of my teammates going to think of me?’

But agree that it also includes the wider community.

Assuming those players don't already know that is. Most players in the comp the wider public don't know their marital status whether they have kids etc, Those in the sides would and likely couldn't care less
 

Iamback

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The point is that 20 years ago you’d be bashed for coming out, now it’s like meh good for you.

Until coming out in sport is “normalised” there will still be this huge unnecessary uproar over a person speaking up.

There should be a coming out round where they all do it at the same time, will be news for a day then who the f**k cares.

Disclaimer - I don’t think that have to come out at all but they should feel like they can if they want to. Right now they don’t feel safe at all.

Most people don't care provided you don't make others feel bad for not feeling the same.

The disclaimer is the same for anyone in public life, Do you really want you and you partner as the news for months? I know I wouldn't. The sooner people stop caring about stuff like that the better
 

coolumsharkie

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I guess we will just need to agree to disagree on this one Coolum. My comment above shows my reasons.
There's no harm in discussion if you have an open mind. What are you disagreeing with?

In Australia, sexual identity/orientation is legally included and accepted thus validated within our society. Almost every person due to these recently modern circumstances, knows someone or has family members who are LGBT..... There's no twinkie bashing anymore, if you talk to normal young people it's accepted as a normal human trait. There is no more need for a pride round than a hetro round imho.

Sorry to disappoint.

*twinkie was not my word thats LU's
 

Frenzy.

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I’m personally really looking forward to the ‘People who like wearing Oodies’ round, which is scheduled for the second weekend of pre-season games next year.

Wayne Bennett has agreed to appear in promotional material..

Tim Sheens is still considering it.

Further to my previous disclosure of having 2 Sharks Oodies I am now considering this

Manly Pride.jpg
 
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endorsing aggressive rainbow political activism.
“Aggressive”? Why so threatened by a few of lil’ rainbows 🤣🤣

Anyway, once we’re finished painting ourselves into a wee tiny corner, I would be very interested to hear any thoughts on advances in societal equity NOT achieved through political activism.

In fact, we only need investigate the origins of this game we all support. The establishment of the professional rugby code, rugby league itself, was a result of determined (aggressive?) political activism by employee/players. Fact.
 

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