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Mannah in, Hayne out

hybrideel

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That's the sad thing, Hayne's omission has taken the shine of Mannah's selection somewhat. I can understand people wanting NSW to go bad to rub it in selectors faces and the last thing i want is for that smug bastard Stuart to have an excuse for leaving Hayne out with a win but there is no way in hell i could go for QLD.
I still want NSW to win but really can't see it happening. and the bookies seem to agree with QLD $1.40 on the TAB.
I guess it's a win/win situation for NSW fans. If we win then great, if we lose then Ricky and the selectors can be shown up for the dumbsh!ts that they are

However if IFR33K is to be believed (which going by his recent posts there's no reason not to), regardless of how they go the same team will be named for all 3 games so losing will not help the situation one bit.
 

carson

Juniors
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Stuart is against people being out of position... yet he has a coach's clipboard in his hand...now that is irony!!!
 

yy_cheng

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Mannah and Snowden are the only two props playing near Scott's level atm although Petero is getting back to form.

Mind you any prop playing under Bennett seems to go well.

What about Fui.

I reckon Fui's value to us is even more than Mannah.

Fui really gets us going forward and I think that has helped Mannah alot.
 

Haynzy

First Grade
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I will be supporting my team, NSW, but i wouldn't be upset if a couple of players have shockers.

You watch though, Mannah will be great but if we lose he'll be the first one dropped.
 

Eels Dude

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What about Fui.

I reckon Fui's value to us is even more than Mannah.

Fui really gets us going forward and I think that has helped Mannah alot.

Mannah is a better prop than Fui. In order to be a great prop you need a great workload and Fui can't match Mannah in defence it hampers his attack too much. Mannah is the more complete front rower out of the two.
 

yy_cheng

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Mannah is a better prop than Fui. In order to be a great prop you need a great workload and Fui can't match Mannah in defence it hampers his attack too much. Mannah is the more complete front rower out of the two.

The workload should be for the backrowers. The props are the ones who gets us going forward. I rate Mannah highly but if you look at our matches over the last 2 years, when Fui is off, we lose momentum badly.
 

Gronk

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Brisbane Courier-Mail journalist Peter Badel says this is the worst NSW team in Origin history



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Duds: that's the view of Courier-Mail journalist Peter Badel. Picture: Brett Costello Source: The Daily Telegraph



THE Blues have become a State of Origin basketcase in recent seasons, but NSW's interstate fortunes officially hit rock bottom when their squad was announced at 5pm last Sunday.

As a proud Blue who grew up idolising the wizardry of Peter Sterling and the toughness of Ray Price, it pains me to say it - but the class of 2011 is the worst team in NSW Origin history.

It is worse than the squad whipped 3-0 last season. Worse than the 1995 Blues outfit which fell to Paul Vautin's Maroons, the biggest underdogs in Origin history. And unquestionably worse than the 1988-89 NSW outfits who suffered clean sweeps in consecutive years as Wally Lewis ran riot.

It is not just an appraisal based on the names that will appear in Origin I next Wednesday night. It is the wider selection philosophy, the swift disposal of stars considered NSW's future and the mystifying snubbing of players whom Queensland would consider tailormade for Origin football.

Just 12 months ago, Luke Lewis, Jarryd Hayne, Tom Learoyd-Lahrs and Jamal Idris were considered key planks in NSW's restoration plan.

On Wednesday night, they will be watching Origin I from their living rooms.

Given the Blues' failures under former coach Craig Bellamy, it is understandable that his successor, Ricky Stuart, would seek to wipe the slate clean armed with fresh ideas and a fresh vision to dismantle the most gifted Queensland side in Origin history.

No-one can dispute Stuart's passion. In that sense, there is no better candidate to revive the Blues. He is a brilliant motivator. But the selection policy over which he has presided is seriously flawed.

The omission of Hayne is just one gaffe. Who will forget his incredible 50-metre solo try on debut in 2007, which ranks among Origin's great four-pointers? Queensland would fear him at any second. For Stuart to suggest he is a five-eighth is to forget Hayne was so impotent in the No.6 jumper his club side, Parramatta, shifted him to fullback.

And where is Luke Lewis? Privately, several Maroons who played with Lewis during last year's Four Nations rate him one of the NRL's most valuable utilities. Yet the Blues have overlooked him for Beau Scott, who was towelled up in the centres last year by Greg Inglis and has yet to prove he is a representative-quality player.

NSW's 10-man forward pack, including utility Dean Young on their four-man bench, has played a total of 27 Origin matches - the same number as Maroons prop Petero Civoniceva.

Eels warhorse Nathan Hindmarsh, a veteran of 17 Origin matches and 22 Tests, is widely regarded in NSW as yesterday's man.

At 30, he is five years younger than Civoniceva.

The NSW teams of 1988-89 may have been flogged 3-0 but they contained players of the ilk of Sterling, Michael O'Connor, Wayne Pearce, Steve Roach, Benny Elias, John Ferguson, Andrew Ettingshausen, Paul Sironen, Glenn Lazarus and Mark Geyer.

The current Blues wouldn't hold a candle to that crew. What Ricky Stuart would give to have those names running out next Wednesday night.

Courier-Mail sportswriter Peter Badel is Sydney-born and bred
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...n-origin-history/story-e6frfghx-1226058604245
 

SDM

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The writer is a NSWelshman. QLD are not stupid enough to offer motivation. They even beat us at using the media to bag the opposition.
 

Gronk

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Dumped Blues fullback Jarryd Hayne was still fuming about his omission from Origin I when he finally spoke to NSW coach Ricky Stuart earlier this week. After watching the team announcement, Hayne turned off his phone and missed Stuart's call on Sunday night to explain his axing. But he phoned Stuart the following day and heard the reasons behind the decision. While he remains unhappy about the snub and Stuart's comments that he considered him a better five-eighth than fullback, Hayne was at least consoled by the coach's assurance that he would be considered for the No.1 jersey in future.
NO DALLAS
While Hayne's omission was the main talking point, it was the absence of a player in the Maroons side that took Parramatta captain Nathan Hindmarsh by surprise. ''No Dallas Johnson for qld. ?,'' Hindmarsh tweeted on Tuesday. Among those to question the decision to overlook Hayne were Sydney Roosters hooker Mark Riddell and Wallabies five-eighth Quade Cooper. ''I support the Blues, but I can't agree with leaving @jarrydhayne-1 out of the team ….,'' Riddell said on Twitter. Cooper tweeted: ''How about the Origin .. Both teams look strong, I just still can't believe Jarryd Hayne missed out #crazy''.
 

Gronk

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He is also making them feel like a team. Stuart has already made the tough call that nobody at Parramatta has been able to do: he effectively told Jarryd Hayne, superstar, to get over himself.

There is no room for ego in Stuart's team. No room for a player who injects himself whenever he feels like it.


Hayne said he was "confused", but Stuart may have made the call that re-launches The Plane.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...-stuarts-revenge/story-e6frfghx-1226059892808
 

Twizzle

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that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard from this so called coach

so no one in this team has an ego ?

if they don't have an ego at this level they shouldn't be there
 

boxhead

First Grade
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As if we didn't need more proof that Sticky is an absolute moron. If Hayne has an ego, what the hell does that say about Mr "I'm going to parade my stats to my team-mates" Dugan? Useless turd.
 

spartan2153

Juniors
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So is Stuart saying he wouldn't have picked Joey Johns in his side?

He didnt pick him when he cached the first time. He draft him in afer they lost the first game. Coincidentally. Joey ended up winning the series for them with 2 man of the matches.

Just goes to show how lucky ricky is. The player he did not want ends up winning him his state of origin series which gets him the coaching job for australia
 
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