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Match Discussion: Round 20 vs Sea Eagles @ Lottoland

Who will win? Round 20: Sea Eagles v Knights

  • Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles 1-12

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  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Newcastle Knights 13+

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  • Total voters
    4
  • Poll closed .

Spot On

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Yeah

Coaches if given the choice between 5 origin players in their NRL side or none...

Well, its a difficult one, isn't it.
 

Apey

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I'd be pissed at underperformers if I was Ponga. He had us up 12 - 0 against the Tigers.
 

mozza91

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Yes, Gagai in the same boat. Having 1 Cooper Cronk or Cameron Smith is probably worth 10 Daniel Saifitis or Dane Gagais. If you want to cut a teams value up by a simplistic "who has the most origin players" heuristic then you're free to it, but it doesn't really cut much weight to anyone wanting to discuss the issue with any nuance, in my opinion.
But. But. 5 Origin players.
 

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And given the choice of one Smith/Cronk or five Saifitis?

Well, its a difficult one isn't it.

C'mon...

10 Saifitis.

Good to see we have a group of Knights supporters who don't want origin players.

We can now sack them and bring our juniors through.

NRL coaches just don't want Origin players these days - especially 5 of them.

Poor Cooper Cronk only has 5 playing along side him. But he'd swap them for anyone else and keep playing.

Cam Smith only 6. But guess what? He's hoping Bellamy moves them on soon.

Yeah, f**king overrated the lot of them.
 
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TooheysNew

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You really do twist things to suit yourself dont you.

I'm stoked that we have origin players. But if you think Saifiti is the equivalent of Cronk, Smith, Cook etc just because he has played origin...
 

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... and nowhere did anyone say Saifiti is the equal to Cronk et al.

FFS, you saying I'm twisting.

Your point may be valid if Dan was our only origin rep. Or if we only had 2. Or possibly 3.

We have f**king 5.

Anyway, origin players are waaaaay overrated. Get rid of them.

Knights supporters. Origin players out the yin yang but.....
 

perverse

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... and nowhere did anyone say Saifiti is the equal to Cronk et al.

FFS, you saying I'm twisting.

Your point may be valid if Dan was our only origin rep. Or if we only had 2. Or possibly 3.

We have f**king 5.

Anyway, origin olayets are waaaaay overrated. Get rid of them.
When you throw around the statement "5 origin players", you're lumping them into a single, one-dimensional category to support your argument. It's intellectually dishonest at best, and you surely must know it.

The worst part is you're deflating your own argument. There's a lot to like and a growing list of things to dislike about Browns tenure here. It's unsurprising to me that it's a divisive topic, it'd be really interesting to have an actual conversation about it I bet. If ever you're ready to make an actual argument/point and discuss it, I'll be around.
 

macavity

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Hmm, just how do they do it???

No Cam. No Cooper.

Should we be expected to be above the Tigers with our squad and bit, meaningless Origin players???

They have got the calls the last few weeks. Seems to mean more than anything else these days.
 

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They have got the calls the last few weeks. Seems to mean more than anything else these days.

I was impressed with their whole game last night. Completely dominant.

They look fit, well organised and the coach is getting the best out of what he has.

Played like they wanted the win in front of their home crowd.
 

slotmachine

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1. Corey Thompson
2. Paul Momirovski
3. Moses Mbye
4. Esan Marsters
5. David Nofoaluma
6. Benji Marshall
7. Luke Brooks
8. Josh Aloiai
9. Robbie Farah
10. Oliver Clark
11. Luke Garner
12. Michael Chee Kam
13. Ryan Matterson
14. Matt Eisenhuth
15. Thomas Mikaele
16. Alex Twal
17. Chris Lawrence

That side has won more games than the Knights.
 

Apey

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1. Corey Thompson
2. Paul Momirovski
3. Moses Mbye
4. Esan Marsters
5. David Nofoaluma
6. Benji Marshall
7. Luke Brooks
8. Josh Aloiai
9. Robbie Farah
10. Oliver Clark
11. Luke Garner
12. Michael Chee Kam
13. Ryan Matterson
14. Matt Eisenhuth
15. Thomas Mikaele
16. Alex Twal
17. Chris Lawrence

That side has won more games than the Knights.
Their spine has been comprehensively outplaying ours which is the saddest part. Besides fullback the rest of their spine is contributing a lot more to their wins.
 

Yosh

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Our fifth tackle options have been shocking again for the past month. For the two months when we were on fire, we were getting repeat sets but now we get nothing... Pearce is kicking like Mullen.
 

Knight Vision

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Our fifth tackle options have been shocking again for the past month. For the two months when we were on fire, we were getting repeat sets but now we get nothing... Pearce is kicking like Mullen.
both Hooker and Half Back have been repeatedly caught with the ball on the 5th, often in an attacking situation. Pearce made 1 grubber last game for a repeat set.

The team revolves around Pearce......no Pearce = no Knights.

Not so keen on an over reliance on 1 playmaker unless it's A Johns.
 

Knight76

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both Hooker and Half Back have been repeatedly caught with the ball on the 5th, often in an attacking situation. Pearce made 1 grubber last game for a repeat set.

The team revolves around Pearce......no Pearce = no Knights.

Not so keen on an over reliance on 1 playmaker unless it's A Johns.

Even with Johns, when he was out, we lost.
 

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