Match Discussion: Round 8 vs Sydney @ McDonald Jones Stadium

[GidleyTwinz]

For a forward pack that people say "looks good on paper", we are consistently beaten through the middle. Klemmer and Frizell are on big packages, but really don't offer the explosiveness of the real top players at their positions. The rule changes have really reduced the value of a Klemmer-type player, and since he's lost the offload, his slow but high workrate approach isn't effective.

Add that to the fact that our back 3 aren't the types to really generate meters (if Ponga is your fullback, that's his real weakness - that he can't carry it out of your own end in the way an RTS can. You need very differently profiled wingers if he's your fullback), and that we neither of our halves are first grade standard, it's not surprising we are where we are.

 

[Jono078]

Call the game now. Our curse is rubbing off on the Roosters now.

 

[NoSchitSherlock]

I swear we had more heart and will to win in 20

We had more heart when we had a team of kids. At least the performance could be blamed on their inexperience.

 

[Knight Tales]

Holy Jesus. Hopefully Morris is ok. That would be shit. He is 34. That would him done.

 

[slotmachine]

We can't even get it right against 11 players

 

[AusKnightRKO]

I feel bad for them, losing players is never a good go.

 

[GidleyTwinz]

That's a totally different story to discuss.

I simply commented on Kalyn's efforts tonight, only you can control your own efforts.

I disagree on the effort. He came back with no preseason and was our best. He was sick the next week and still was our best (also won the game for us), and was close to the best the next week too.

Expectations are too high IMO. There's only so much one player can do in what is a pretty bad team. I don't think you could sub in a Tedesco or a Slater and get a notably better result over the last month.

 

[Alex28]

We seriously don’t have a medicab?

 

[Jono078]

I cannot stand how often we concede those kind of tries because Kalyn is in the line (this is not a go at Kalyn, I'm sure he's coached to do it).

 

[slotmachine]

Hahahaha, conceding against 11.

 

[K-Man]

The real problem tonight is not the result, it's what the performance itself indicates. I think this is the most demoralising game in a long time because you couldn't say we were unlucky, or that the refs were against us, or that we had our chances. We actually make up with nothing at all, it's been a completely insipid effort in every single aspect of the game. I genuinely don't see us coming back from this one. We'll play the Raiders back into form next week and then that's pretty much that.

 

[NoSchitSherlock]

Disgrace. Time for big changes but there's nobody to bring in.
We'll settle for anyone to replace Green.

 

[GidleyTwinz]

I cannot stand how often we concede those kind of tries because Kalyn is in the line (this is not a go at Kalyn, I'm sure he's coached to do it).

Probably shouldn't be adding the extra number when it's 11 v 13 though

 

[Jono078]

I disagree on the effort. He came back with no preseason and was our best. He was sick the next week and still was our best (also won the game for us), and was close to the best the next week too.

Expectations are too high IMO. There's only so much one player can do in what is a pretty bad team. I don't think you could sub in a Tedesco or a Slater and get a notably better result over the last month.

Once again you're missing my point mate. This isn't about results. This is about if there's someone about to score a try and he's last in line I want him to do his best to stop it.

Yes he does great plays for us and gets us points, but I don't think it's too much to ask for better attitude and effort.

What do you think Payten is saying if Ponga is at the Cowboys?

 

[Tom155]

Just wow, what else is there to say at this point?

 

[slotmachine]

Why are they acting like tough dickheads in the last two tackles of the game against 11?

 

[macavity]

These pricks ruin almost every weekend.

 

[Jono078]

The real problem tonight is not the result, it's what the performance itself indicates. I think this is the most demoralising game in a long time because you couldn't say we were unlucky, or that the refs were against us, or that we had our chances. We actually make up with nothing at all, it's been a completely insipid effort in every single aspect of the game. I genuinely don't see us coming back from this one. We'll play the Raiders back into form next week and then that's pretty much that.

Hope this post wins the most likes.

Tonight is not about the scoreline at all.

 

[Matt23]

Weak.

 

[Alex28]

Is it that our players just aren’t willing to do what the Panthers and Roosters players have done to us?

When they do something, there’s two or three players backing up and getting involved. When they kick there are players competing for the ball. We are back 10 metres waiting to defend.

We aren’t willing. I doubt we are capable. We don’t want it.