Once again you're missing my point mate. This isn't about results. This is about if there's someone about to score a try and he's last in line I want him to do his best to stop it.
Yes he does great plays for us and gets us points, but I don't think it's too much to ask for better attitude and effort.
What do you think Payten is saying if Ponga is at the Cowboys?
I'm not missing your point, I think we just disagree - and you might well be right.
I feel that this is a pretty good example of a broader phenomenon - that fans are quick to jump to criticising effort, when in most cases the issue is talent. It makes sense why one would want to believe "they're just not trying hard enough...they just don't care" - because those are easier to fix (theoretically).
Did any of these guys half-ass it during the week? Did any of them run out not caring about the result? Did Ponga miss the tackle on Radley because his attitude was bad, or is his 1-on-1 defence just not that good?
I think we're not a very talented football club (compared to the top sides), and I don't think we're coached very well. Lots of others will disagree, but I don't think it's an effort or attitude issue.