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SDM

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I think DA has done the right thing giving him another week, last thing we need is a flare up costing him an offseason.
 

Twizzle

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no he didn't actually - not until much later when I said Ando said they wouldn't be back

whatever - I couldn't be bothered going on about it anymore - I just think there is some selctive over-moderation at times .... I've had my say - i'll zip it now

fair enough, I know what you mean

generally with something like this we'll give the member a bit of time to respond as, although its not sourced, its not the sort of thing that can cause problems for the site, but it does for the moderators who, if they don't remove it, get accused of not being consistent

its a no win situation for some of us, especially when everyone has to agree to the rules prior to joining, yet complain when they are enforced
 

strider

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but seriously - this is just someone sharing a bit of harmless info - why does it need a source? - its not info that might be harmful to anyone, so what if its even wrong? (which I don't think it is i think this guy knows someone from stuff he's posted before) - readers can make their minds up whether to believe or not .... a large part of why I (and I assume others) read this place is to find out little bits of info like this - if people feel they have to justify every little harmless bit of info they post they'll stop bothering

:-#
 

Twizzle

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but seriously - this is just someone sharing a bit of harmless info - why does it need a source? - its not info that might be harmful to anyone, so what if its even wrong? (which I don't think it is i think this guy knows someone from stuff he's posted before) - readers can make their minds up whether to believe or not .... a large part of why I (and I assume others) read this place is to find out little bits of info like this - if people feel they have to justify every little harmless bit of info they post they'll stop bothering

:-#

I guess its a matter of where you draw the line, if you draw one at all

if you don't draw the line, then everything must be sourced, if you do draw the line, then you get accused of being inconsistent, its a no win situation for a moderator especially when you are friends with the people who's posts you are removing

its may also be a matter of what you consider harmless

what if the eels coaching staff didn't wanted the Sharks to know the makeup of our team, they would have announced it yesterday, why give the sharks a wake up call on what our final make up would be

what do you define as harmless ?

if you read the emails we get sent from various people and some of the threats we receive, you'd understand

its quite OK to discuss it Strider, sometimes its better than keeping it bottled up, at least then members can get a clearer understanding of what we have to do and some of the stuff we have to deal with
 

FUIFUI_MOIMOI

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but seriously - this is just someone sharing a bit of harmless info - why does it need a source? - its not info that might be harmful to anyone, so what if its even wrong? (which i don't think it is i think this guy knows someone from stuff he's posted before) - readers can make their minds up whether to believe or not .... A large part of why i (and i assume others) read this place is to find out little bits of info like this - if people feel they have to justify every little harmless bit of info they post they'll stop bothering

:-#

100%
 

The Colonel

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but seriously - this is just someone sharing a bit of harmless info - why does it need a source? - its not info that might be harmful to anyone, so what if its even wrong? (which I don't think it is i think this guy knows someone from stuff he's posted before) - readers can make their minds up whether to believe or not .... a large part of why I (and I assume others) read this place is to find out little bits of info like this - if people feel they have to justify every little harmless bit of info they post they'll stop bothering

:-#

What Twizz said. I'm not privy to all the emails that get sent but some people can be quite pedantic when it comes to information that gets posted. I know recently we've had to do a bit of a search to find some posts that were considered litigious by the person they were said about however those posts went back to 2005.

We may be seemingly over pedantic however that is mostly because we'd like to keep the site up and running for everyone.
 

strider

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maybe ando needs to tell his player/staff to keep their mouths shut :lol: :lol:

i actually think it'd be a good thing it might get leaked out - make ricky and the boys start guessing and take their minds off their own game ;-)
 

yy_cheng

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I liked these posts. I like the posts from staggs with the wink or any who have contacts at parra ala cgee, musashi, newmanj, parrapete, parrafuture, and the one's who knows INU's mum, jodeci, delboy, hellsy, jess etc.

It's also a big reason I come back to this site.

Can we have a place like parallel dimension and call it UNSOURCED THREADS and then have a disclaimer on the top?

I know that's where I'll spend most of my time
 
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The Colonel

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Yes. We don't check the identity of everyone who posts on the forum so we don't know who is privy to the information - anyone can gain access to PD if they've been on the forum long enough.
 

Twizzle

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what do you mean?

Access like parra dimensions?

anyone can claim to be an eels fan and get access

it can also be a matter of how the information is presented

if is presented as a rumour or opinion, its maybe not so bad
 

yy_cheng

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what about when staggs writes something like, Kris told me in will be back in 2 weeks. Straight from the horses mouth.

Should he need a link?
 

muznik

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I would argue that its not breaking news, we have the same rule for everyone, not just a selected few



not if its just a rumour and winky

why should we allow some and yet delete others?

why should we be inconsistent ?

:sarcasm: Umm cause we're Eels fans ! :lol:



Anyway back to the "rumour"... great news if true. I dont have an issue with DA not playing him straight up though.

If we were still playing woeful then maybe riskit but we have been playing better of late so ease him back in.
 

Stagger eel

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ok - seriously - next time stagger shares some info he has without explicitly saying where it came from, I hope you decide to apply the consistency rules and delete it .... cos last week stagger made the statement that those 2 were pretty much ready to go and never said that it had come from them until afterwards and I didn't see any moderation or asking for sources going on there :?

just so you know mate, I've been pulled up on more than 1 occasion for unsourced "so called" scoops...;-)

rule applies to everyone.
 

strider

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stags - your wink is enough source for me ;-)


btw - jodeci just said the tigers will make a play for timmy in another thread - no source :shock: :crazy: .... just joking
 

Twizzle

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what about when staggs writes something like, Kris told me in will be back in 2 weeks. Straight from the horses mouth.

Should he need a link?

Kris is the source

a source does not necessarily have to be a URL link



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http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=203506

this is alot why we have to remove our team of the week if there is no source, sometimes you may only need to source it as "email from the Eels"
 
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If it's in regards to player signings etc. I don't see the reason why people can't put post a rumour on without stating a source. Got to stop this red tape crap!!
 

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