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Matt Dufty

slippery5

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Dufty's future is in his own hands. He is contracted to SGI for season 2019 so he should just step up and make the best of the opportunities presented to him in 2019. If he improves and is good enough, SGI will offer him a contract for 2020 and onwards. If he spits the dummy and wants out, then let him go and have Field take his place.
Blind Freddie can see Field is the very reason why they are willing to pass on Dufty, just as suspect in defence but possibly better at attacking high ball & actually faster than Dufty.
 

Como Connection

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$1.1m has been reported only in the media, and has been directly refuted by millward.

And if that turns out to be our best lineup, who cares what a bench player is paid? In this scenario he would be playing plenty of minutes, but wouldn't have to defend in the middle in the opening stages.
Try $950.
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Drag Queen

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May as we

May as well keep him. No other team is vying for him at FB. Cheers Xx
yes its certainly not rocket science DRAG THE KIDS one of the best attacking players we have had for many years sure his defence certainly needs to improve and his positional play needs to improve but DRAG you need to see the good in the boy not just the bad .JUST LIKE YOUR FAVORITE DUGAN .he was very good at running the ball back and in defence, but speed was not a positive nor was his passing game .look at the whole picture sweetie not just the bad aspects.......,....
Yawn. Give me Tedesco. Attack and defence. Ticks all boxes. BTW Dufty isn't exactly a kid. Isn't he 23?
 

Overseas dragon

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Yawn. Give me Tedesco. Attack and defence. Ticks all boxes. BTW Dufty isn't exactly a kid. Isn't he 23?
give you tedesco dreaming again drag ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why dont we also give you smith as hooker ,and michael morgan in the halves .mission impossible....
 

possm

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Try $950.
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All of this to keep a player is still progressing in his development, not as good as Widdop and who is demanding over 700k per season. SGI will let him go if he wants a release and Mary will select him only if Widdop and Field are unavailable.

Like Quinlan, Dufty would be an absolute sensation in the ESL and probably should take up a contract over there. He could travel around Europe in the off-season. Great opportunity for a young buck.
 

watatank

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I just don't think the powers that be have ever really been sold on Dufty, even if no one would admit it publicly. Signing Norman would just be another indication of that. Seems like we are moving on and if we need a backup, we still have Field.

I think Dufty will ask for a release. He could bide his time especially with the possibility Widdop leaves early but in a contract year wouldn't leave him with a lot of leverage if he's not playing much first grade
 

possm

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I just don't think the powers that be have ever really been sold on Dufty, even if no one would admit it publicly. Signing Norman would just be another indication of that.

I think Dufty will ask for a release. He could bide his time especially with the possibility Widdop leaves early but in a contract year wouldn't leave him with a lot of leverage if he's not playing much first grade

I think you are right! If Dufty knuckles down he could be selected at fullback in 2019 if:
Widdop moves on early
Widdop is injured

It may also be the case that he will be offered a contract extension for 2020 provide he resolves his skill-set issues and reduces his asking price.

Field has be playing 6 in ISP so it may well be he is first call up if one of the halves are unavailable.
 

Overseas dragon

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Listening to Millwards interview about the signing of Norman there are a couple of interesting points:
1. He felt the need to speak about the speculation of what position he'll play. Thats up to the coaching staff was the answer. Normally, he is very certain invstating we signed X player to play this position or positions.
2. Mentioning Dufty in a way which alluded to him being in the top 17.
3. The previous talk about we needed to sign a replacement for Mann to fill that roll. No mention of this now.
4. 29 spots filled and we will wait and see approach, moreso with an eye to a developing player being rewarded. So forget about signing Jennings for example.
The conjecture will be where will Norman play?
its not rocket science if widdop is leaving then norman is the 5/8 this year and next after he leaves only a dickhead would put norman at full back when hes the future 5/8 .......but then along came mary
 

BLM01

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Blind Freddie can see Field is the very reason why they are willing to pass on Dufty, just as suspect in defence but possibly better at attacking high ball & actually faster than Dufty.
Well said Freddie and it was actually Dufty that approached McGregor before the game he started on the bench, telling him he was tired and that he was happy to sit out that game.
If you think Field is an improvement on Dufty as a 1st grade fullback you obviously did not watch too many ISP games last year. They took Field out of fullback to put him in the halves and put Herbert back there. We all know Dufty has some things to work on but gee..whiz, we have no better fullback at our club ATM..that includes Widdop who is the only one likely that can prove me wrong with that
 
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If he's not first grade fullback we should be shopping him round now. We need threequarters and a replacement for De Belin. We don't need a first grade fullback playing reserve grade when Lomax and Field can cover the position.
 
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its not rocket science if widdop is leaving then norman is the 5/8 this year and next after he leaves only a dickhead would put norman at full back when hes the future 5/8 .......but then along came mary
I actually believe it’s what he will do, however moving the two between positions during the games will be a very smart move.

There ya go Mary, claim that one as your own
 

Drag Queen

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Well said Freddie and it was actually Dufty that approached McGregor before the game he started on the bench, telling him he was tired and that he was happy to sit out that game.
If you think Field is an improvement on Dufty as a 1st grade fullback you obviously did not watch too many ISP games last year. They took Field out of fullback to put him in the halves and put Herbert back there. We all know Dufty has some things to work on but gee..whiz, we have no better fullback at our club ATM..that includes Widdop who is the only one likely that can prove me wrong with that
Correction. We still have Widdop unless he is granted a release. I know who I would prefer as FB. Out of curiosity, how do you know that young Field won't cut the mustard?
 

BLM01

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Correction. We still have Widdop unless he is granted a release. I know who I would prefer as FB. Out of curiosity, how do you know that young Field won't cut the mustard?
You will note DQ I said Widdop is the only one to prove me wrong re better than Dufty.
How do you know Widdop will be a better NRL 1st grade fullback..I am not relying on a couple of test for GB against some inferior sides and 1 game against Australia. Apart from that I have not seen him play fullback.
Re Field..Watched him play about 8 games live last year at home and just my opinion...and even the coach shifted him out of fullback.
I will not knock his acceleration, speed and attacking ability just like Dufty but the rest..no in comparison to Dufty in respect to timing of runs and YES Dufty needs to work on some things too as I have said ad-nauseum
 

getsmarty

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Corey Norman v Matt Dufty v Gareth Widdop: Why Dragons recruit is no guarantee for fullback
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The Dragons have three fullback options for 2019.Source: FOX SPORTS
St George Illawarra coach Paul McGregor faces a welcome backline headache in 2019 following the club’s acquisition of Corey Norman.
The talented five-eighth or fullback will join the Dragons on a three-year deal from next season in a move that will strengthen the Red V’s attack.

The biggest question mark that lingers is how the backline will now look.

“Straight away, there will be speculation around the position he’ll play and that’ll be up to the coach,” Dragons recruitment boss Ian Millward said.

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“We feel Corey as a quality player will give Paul an opportunity to work with some really outstanding talent.”

Some are tipping Norman to take over the No.1 jumper, leaving incumbent Matt Dufty facing the prospect of reserve grade or a positional switch.

But Dragons skipper Gareth Widdop also has some experience in the custodian role from his time playing for Melbourne and England.


So who is best suited to the role?

Numbers provided by Fox Sports Lab show that particularly in the battle between Norman and Dufty, the latter should feel hard done by to lose his spot.

The former Brisbane and Parramatta star has intermittently started at fullback throughout his career for a total of 32 games.

In those matches, it’s clear Norman has been relied on for his ballplaying, having 34.3 possessions per game.

He’s managed to notch up a total of 19 linebreak assists, 13 try assists, 13 offloads, 10 linebreaks and 89 tackle busts.

His running game has also been strong with 14.7 runs per game for an average of 130 metres.

MATT DUFTY

The young livewire has only appeared at fullback in his 33-game NRL career, starting on 32 occasions — he came off the bench in Round 24 this year against Canterbury.

It’s no secret speed is Dufty’s main attribute and he’s burned more than one opponent to date.

Because of that blistering pace, he trumps Norman when it comes to tackle busts (126) and linebreaks (24). He also edges out his new teammate in try assists with 15.

Another important area where Dufty comes out in top is his ability to find the tryline, and he’s done so on 19 occasions to Norman’s three.

Dufty’s possessions are much lower with 21.4 per game, while his runs (10.8) and metres (113) are lower than Norman. His linebreak assists (14) are also lower.

GARETH WIDDOP

The Englishman has started at fullback in just six NRL games and a further five at international level, so his statisitics are limited.

He also played a host of games in the No.1 jumper in through the junior grades, and it was in the 2009 Under 20s grand final where he helped the Storm to a title with two tries.

Across his top level games, Widdop, like Norman, has clearly been more of a playmaker with 33.1 possessions per game.

He’s scored five tries and set up another six, along with six linebreaks, 10 linebreak assists and 34 tackle busts.

While his numbers are hard to compare to the other fullback contenders, his ballplaying figures are arguably more impressive in his international games compared to the NRL which also highlights his development as a player.



https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...k/news-story/30be82367a9edfa2ce57ecfa7742195a
 

slippery5

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Well said Freddie and it was actually Dufty that approached McGregor before the game he started on the bench, telling him he was tired and that he was happy to sit out that game.
If you think Field is an improvement on Dufty as a 1st grade fullback you obviously did not watch too many ISP games last year. They took Field out of fullback to put him in the halves and put Herbert back there. We all know Dufty has some things to work on but gee..whiz, we have no better fullback at our club ATM..that includes Widdop who is the only one likely that can prove me wrong with that
Not the way I recall, McGregor stating, "he just thought Dufty was looking a little tired", & no I don't think Field is better than Dufty nor do I think Dufty is better than Field, neither of them would be in my side purely on defence (lack of ) issues, It doesn't matter how fast you are at scoring try's, if you let in 2 for every try you scored then you might as well keep rotating to find a suitable player for that position.
In my opinion, things to work on, as you mentioned, were diabolical & bordered on trying to look like he was beaten in defence instead of missing a tackle [Bulldogs game]. Either way, every time the opposition target him in defence they would be confident of scoring.
In comparison, yes I watched most of the ISP when on the screen, Field suffers from a poor technique, in arm grabbing instead of making sure his shoulder is the first point of contact.
Cheers.
Blind Freddie.
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I wonder what Bennett would think about Dufty being a better FB than Widdop. Did you watch any of the World Cup?
 
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