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Matt Dufty

BF

Juniors
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so much truth and accuracy in what is written above.
watching the game and seeing Dufty hesitant to run left me scratching my head. Dugan may not provide us with the ball playing spark that we need but he is a strong runner and a equally strong defender. Ill reserve judgement on Dufty until next year. Lets see what a full pre season does to him and hopefully he can work on his size, strength and positioning.

Mcinnes - nothing in attack. Lichaa absolutely killed us yesterday with his dummy half raids and I am yet to see that from Mcinnes

Nightingale.... i got abused on one the facebook pages when i suggested that Nighties time was up... i still believe that.
 

Carlton

Juniors
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A bit harsh, considering he's only been in FG for a few games. A lot of the stuff you mentioned will come with time and experience.

It's not a bad thing that he's passing the ball instead of going himself. Showing that he can pass or go himself will always put the defense in two minds.

Dufty reminded me a bit of Quinlan yesterday with the passes from kick returns. He may have been instructed to do that. I'd only be worried about it if it becomes a regular occurrence.

I am not being overly harsh and what you say about it may come in time is correct. The problem is it also may not come in time and fullback is a key position where we cannot afford to be experimenting if we expect to be successful.

I think Dufty should have been blooded instead of playing Nighty at fullback to get a feel of whether he can step up and to give him a feeling for whats expected of him in first grade. The problem is he has been thrust straight into the role without the apprenticeship (ala Munster) that he needs.
 

Drag Queen

Bench
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Is Dugan a better fullback, hell yeah. Am I glad Dufty was given an opportunity this year as Dugan won't be, hell yeah.
so much truth and accuracy in what is written above.
watching the game and seeing Dufty hesitant to run left me scratching my head. Dugan may not provide us with the ball playing spark that we need but he is a strong runner and a equally strong defender. Ill reserve judgement on Dufty until next year. Lets see what a full pre season does to him and hopefully he can work on his size, strength and positioning.

Mcinnes - nothing in attack. Lichaa absolutely killed us yesterday with his dummy half raids and I am yet to see that from Mcinnes

Nightingale.... i got abused on one the facebook pages when i suggested that Nighties time was up... i still believe that.
It's a shame because I love Nighty and he always gives his all. Unfortunately time has ravaged his efforts.
 

Dragon66

Juniors
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640
All this rubbish about Dufty is annoying. The way he looked for a winger every time he fielded a kick could only because of the SuperCoaches instructions. Please lay the blame where it belongs.
And iMcDonald is the softest most ineffective winger in the NRL bar none. Has had his moments during the season but on the whole he has been out of his depth.

As for the rest of the team they are talented enough to be a top 8 side but McGregor is the truly weak link in the puzzle.
I think his ideas are right most of the time it's just his inability to translate it into action on the field makes it so obvious he is not up to the job

The only way we can endorse any change is to withhold joining or renewing our membership. Under that sort of pressure surely the Committee will make the right choice and replace McGregor.

Please not replace him with another failed NRL coach. We need an Arthur or Flannegan style coach to turn the Laplace around.

We can all live in hope.
 

Carlton

Juniors
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All this rubbish about Dufty is annoying. The way he looked for a winger every time he fielded a kick could only because of the SuperCoaches instructions. Please lay the blame where it belongs.
And iMcDonald is the softest most ineffective winger in the NRL bar none. Has had his moments during the season but on the whole he has been out of his depth.

As for the rest of the team they are talented enough to be a top 8 side but McGregor is the truly weak link in the puzzle.
I think his ideas are right most of the time it's just his inability to translate it into action on the field makes it so obvious he is not up to the job

The only way we can endorse any change is to withhold joining or renewing our membership. Under that sort of pressure surely the Committee will make the right choice and replace McGregor.

Please not replace him with another failed NRL coach. We need an Arthur or Flannegan style coach to turn the Laplace around.

We can all live in hope.

I think you miss the point about Dufty, it may have been the coaches instructions to pass to a winger and I agree ridiculous tactic. The issue is I don't think Dufty is able to take kick returns and make the hard yards from them, this irrespective of any coaching blunders.

We have problems all can be traced back to the board - our CEO, our coach and also the playing roster.
 

Overseas dragon

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Iv been a supporter of DUFTY .since the beginning but f**k when the games on the line you get the ball well if it's me use your speed try and start something regardless what your coach tells you .and WIDDOP ,your the captain your meant to lead your team .do you have any f**kin idea what that means.MR MCGREGOR ,the dapto under nines needs a waterboy but your not good enough ,so get on your jetski .
 

Overseas dragon

Juniors
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And CAMERON McINNES stop tackling and start running.michael licka disobey haslers instructions look where that gets you when you disobey the coach.
 

TomRedVRiver

Bench
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Lichaa absolutely killed us yesterday with his dummy half raids and I am yet to see that from Mcinnes .

I've been saying for the last year or two that Hasler has completely screwed with Lichaa's natural game. He has looked so uncomfortable out there and that's not because of a lack of ability, Des has literally coached the creativity out of him.
Lichaa has basically thrown up the middle finger to Hasler over the last three weeks and is playing his own game, which is effective and super dangerous. I bet clubs will be lining up for his signature now.
 

giboz71

First Grade
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Dufty is far from a finished product. He's got the skills needed from FB such as speed and vision (something Duges never had), but as people have mentioned, FB is a key position. Impossible to master in 10 games. He needs a good season in FG before we see his best.

As I mentioned elsewhere, a guy like Moylan would be ideal to play either 5/8 or FB, but unfortunately, we've already committed long term to Widdop.
 

Overseas dragon

Juniors
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I've been saying for the last year or two that Hasler has completely screwed with Lichaa's natural game. He has looked so uncomfortable out there and that's not because of a lack of ability, Des has literally coached the creativity out of him.
Lichaa has basically thrown up the middle finger to Hasler over the last three weeks and is playing his own game, which is effective and super dangerous. I bet clubs will be lining up for his signature now.
Yes maybe the bulldogs will I hear DYMOCK is a big fan of the boy .
 

possm

Coach
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Ive been the teams biggest supporter and often criticised for my undivided support and optimism - but yesterday was a disgrace - everyone in that team knew what the deal was - win and your in the semis - the team was just not good enough...my observations are simple.. you cant take the same players into next years battles and expect a different result...even the coach should go...Mcguire and Hasler will be sacked this week - maybe a solution w Hasler?

We have to be clinical in our culling of players. even w the arrival of great players in Hunt and Graham we will undoubtedly improve but not to the level to win the comp.

IMO Dufty looks still very uncertain of how to play his role...to my way of thinking we need the below to happen or similar.

  • Mciness can't play 80 min anymore - he's not creative enough - good service, great tackler but thats it! We need a rotation of a 2nd hooker coming on the 25th min mark and one that asks questions of the defence - SIGN Michael Lichaa now to play 17.
  • Dufty big question mark - throw $750K (Dugans contract) a season at Moylan and throw him at FB
  • Nightingale - sorry too slow - sign Curtis Rona or similar speedster
  • Need an attacking Right Centre - Brenko Lee available and schooled Lafai yesterday sign him
Changes need to be made - we have plenty in the cap so lets spend it.

Moylan
Mcdonald
Lee
Lafai
Rona

Widdop
Hunt

JDB
Frizzell
Thompson
Graham
Mciness/Lichaa
Vaughan

Simms
LAM
Leilua
Lichaa
Mann

Moylan
Rona
Lomax
Lafai
Mann


Widdop
Hunt


JDB
Frizell
Thompson
Graham
McInnes
Vaughan


Simms
LAM
Host/Sele/Lawrie/Kerr
Robson


Can we afford this team for 2018? If so do it now!
 

saintm

Juniors
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342
I think you miss the point about Dufty, it may have been the coaches instructions to pass to a winger and I agree ridiculous tactic. The issue is I don't think Dufty is able to take kick returns and make the hard yards from them, this irrespective of any coaching blunders.

We have problems all can be traced back to the board - our CEO, our coach and also the playing roster.
Agreed... Dufty will be better with an off season
I think he can run the ball back and make metres however, he was instructed to pass off to the wingers due to his weight at the moment. Stupid tactic... I have seen him score full length of the field tries from kick returns. Give him time and he will be strong in that area as well
 

saintm

Juniors
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342
Moylan
Rona
Lomax
Lafai
Mann


Widdop
Hunt


JDB
Frizell
Thompson
Graham
McInnes
Vaughan


Simms
LAM
Host/Sele/Lawrie/Kerr
Robson


Can we afford this team for 2018? If so do it now!
SORRY possum this was in respone to MICKEYLANE
You are always looking for players outside of our roster... the problem is not the players it is how they are coached. There was no structure or attacking formations. The storm have bodies in motion all the time. Dragons is one off footy put Moylan in there and he will be average as well. Give Dufty a break 6 games and has been consistent. The bagging for not running the ball back lies with McGregor not Dufty. I was at the game and just suffered through the replay....he backed up consistently and did not get the ball. Everyone raves about our forward pack (including me) however, they were out muscled yesterday but an inferior team. Our halves did not direct or set up plays. Everyone had a below par game that was orchestrated by Mary.
 

Splinters

Juniors
Messages
72
Players can improve. I remember when the Morris brothers came into first grade they couldn't pick up a rolling ball to save their lives. Over about a year they fixed that problem .

Of course, that isn't on the same scale as defensive problems.
 

possm

Coach
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15,858
Players can improve. I remember when the Morris brothers came into first grade they couldn't pick up a rolling ball to save their lives. Over about a year they fixed that problem .

Of course, that isn't on the same scale as defensive problems.

Whoever was coaching/guiding/mentoring Dufty through the ranks should have paid a lot more attention to helping him with his weaknesses.
 

FlameThrower

Bench
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Whoever was coaching/guiding/mentoring Dufty through the ranks should have paid a lot more attention to helping him with his weaknesses.
Completely different ball game - and FG is the real test. Billy Slayter himself stated when he started he could not pass or kick and was relying just on pure speed. He learnt that after a few seasons to become one of the best fullbacks. Give Dufty a chance for gods sake and unless you go out a buy top tier 1-5-6-7-9 you will need to give the juniors time to settle into FG. Yes now he is FG these ‘weaknesses ‘ can be worked on during off season.
 

FlameThrower

Bench
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3,557
Players can improve. I remember when the Morris brothers came into first grade they couldn't pick up a rolling ball to save their lives. Over about a year they fixed that problem .

Of course, that isn't on the same scale as defensive problems.
I clearly remember Gus Could mentioning this that the ‘ Morris twins
’ had poor hands.. early on in their career.
 

Crush

Coach
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Just on Duftys perceived poor defense, I have been playing around and looking at stats online for 2018.
I got bored and stopped at about 10 fullbacks but the results show Duftys defense is not a major problem compared the other blokes. And Dufty scored more tries than all these blokes with the exception of Holmes who scored 22 tries!
Below is tackle efficiency percentage based on tackles made and missed tackles.
Boyd 82.9%
Teddy 75.7%
Slater 73.1%
Dufty 70.3%
Turbo 69.8%
Mbye 68%
Holmes 67.5%
French 65.2%
RTS 59.1%

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