Matt Rogers is a f**k

[hrundi99]

Ironic that Eastsrule is spending his time conversing in a league forum.

Just another union-type obsessing over the superiority of league.

 

[legend]

http://www.geocities.com/knights_season/albert.html

Knight flying - 19 Jul 1998 - Sun Herald

Darren Albert, is ready to return to football. Coach Mal Reilly watched the grand final-winning winger go through an awesome set of squats with heavy weights during the week and declared Albert would make his comeback next week against Melbourne. After his sensational ending to last season, Albert has played a total of only 10 minutes this year because of a stress fracture to the foot. The injury recurred when he returned to football against Canterbury in his only appearance this year, putting him out for another four months.
Knights speed coach Bruce Gulliver yesterday reported that Albert was "flying" at training. "He is just a beautiful mover - a pure sprinter who happens to play football. His whole mental attitude is to do with sprinting. I could get him to run real fast . . . real quick. "Potentially, he is a low 10 second [100m] runner. "He can run around 10.6 in the off-season, and to be able to do that without any specialist training . . it's frightening really. He's a natural."

 

[Tighthead]

Tighthead, this is not four corners. The Union fraternity has long recognised SOO as the pinnacle of either code with Eddie Jones saying as much on several occasions.

Eddie Jones said that he considers State of Origin as a benchmark - which he would like his team to meet. Doesn't mean that :

SOO is the pinnacle of full contact sport anywhere in the world and is recognised as such by ALL parties, not just the league fraternity.

Nathan Hindmarsh and Craig Fitzgibbon would be the fittest players in either code without a doubt.

Each code has differing fitness requirements. I have no doubt that these two players are incredibly fit or that the aerobic requirements of rugby leage are incredible. However rugby union has fitness requirements that are not so important in rugby leage - scrummaging/lineouts/rucks/mauls.

I don't think that comparing the fitness requirements of each code does anything to demonstrate which is 'better'. It is like saying that marathonning is a better sport than rugby league, as you have to be fitter to do it.

 

[shiznit]

Mate Richie McCaw and George Smith would be just as fit as Nathan Hindmarsh and Craig Fitzgiborn.
its a diffrent type of fitness.

 

[legend]

Just for you Shiznit:

http://www.abc.net.au/sport/features/2003/s961478.htm

Power and pace: Kiwi Rokocoko no ordinary Joe
From John Kirwan in 1987 to Jonah Lomu in 1995, New Zealand wingers have made a habit of taking the World Cup by storm - and Joe Rokocoko looks set to maintain that tradition.

With 11 tries in seven Tests since making his debut in June, the free-scoring, Fiji-born youngster has fairly scorched onto the international scene, making him the most talked about new talent for years.

Like Lomu, Rokocoko cut his teeth with New Zealand's seven-a-side squad before graduating to full 15-a-side All Black honours as a teenager. But the similarities end there.

Where Lomu used his imposing physique to rampage through defences around the rugby world, Rokocoko's principal weapon is the quality that wingers prize above all others: pure, blistering pace.

He has clocked a time of 4.66 seconds for 40 metres in training with New Zealand, quicker even than fellow winger and All Blacks team-mate Doug Howlett, a former New Zealand under-20 100 metre champion.

"Joe's as fast as I've come across," says All Blacks assistant coach Robbie Deans.

"If you timed 5.1 seconds a few years ago you were considered electric. Joe is young but there is nothing out there in Test rugby for him to be afraid of."

If Joe runs 40 metres at 4.66 seconds, my calculations lead me to ascertain that over 100 metres at the same speed, he would clock a time of 11.65 seconds. A full second slower than Darren Albert.

 

[Tighthead]

If Joe runs 40 metres at 4.66 seconds, my calculations lead me to ascertain that over 100 metres at the same speed, he would clock a time of 11.65 seconds. A full second slower than Darren Albert

Pretty specious reasoning, considering his second 40m would be a lot faster than his first 40, which is from a standing start.

Poor argument.

 

[JK]

The first 40 is the slowest in a 100 metre race as you have the initial acceleration. However it is true that top class sprinters can maintain top speed over the final 60 but others fall away.

 

[shiznit]

thats 40 meters you idiot.
if you knew what you were talking about youd realise that they were looking for explosive speed.
if you let him run the full 100 meters he would anhialate albert.
the fact that howlett scored slower than him shows that.
howlett would be faster then both Joe Rock and Albert over 100 meters.

 

[legend]

There are players in every NRL club that can run a sub five second 40 metres. I know for a fact Mark McLinden and Adam Mogg can run sub five second forty metre times.

Joe R would have to run a sub ten second time to "anhialate" Darren Albert and we both know if he could run that fast, he would be at the Olympics. I personally think Darren Albert would annihilate Joe R but unless they square off, we'll never know for sure.

 

[legend]

http://www.sportrelief.com/rugby.html

Powergen Fastest Man in Rugby League

Powergen, title sponsor of the Challenge Cup and official Energy to the RFL teamed up with Sport Relief to find the fastest man in English rugby league.

32 players from across the Super League and National Leagues One and Two competed head to head to answer the long standing question...

Who is the quickest of them all?

Congratulations go to St. Helens’ winger Daren Albert who beat the rest of the field to win the prestigious and much acclaimed title of The Fastest man in Rugby League. He dominated his heat and then cruised home to win the Grand Final 100-metre sprint in 11.365 seconds.

For all rugby league fans who attended the sporting spectacle, we hope you had fun getting behind the players and cheering them on!

The World of Rugby is throwing its considerable weight behind Sport Relief '04, and has already got off to a flying start.

At the Official RFU World Cup Send-Off dinner in September 2003, a staggering £85,000 was raised from a raffle & live auction held on the night.

World Cup winner Matt Dawson , who recently visited a Sport Relief funded project said:

"Sport has played a huge part in my life, but it also has the potential to change the lives of many people here in the UK and around the world.

"Sport Relief takes this potential and turns it into a reality. That's why so many people in the Rugby World in general and sport in particular are right behind it."


If you follow the link, you will see Albert did the Sprint in his St Helens strip and carried a football for the entire 100 metres.

 

[Tighthead]

We get it. Albert is the fastest man in rugby league.

 

[gaterooze]

Back to the original article, Rogers and many others are jumping the gun a bit.

All that's happened so far is SANZAR have unveiled their "plan" for the product they will offer Fox Sports. A lot depends on how highly Fox value that product as presented.

If that value is lower than the deal they have previously enjoyed, then the ARU won't be able to afford to poach many League players. The RUWC money is already spent/earmarked, so that won't help.

Nothing is a done deal yet. There may not even be a 14 team comp if News don't go for it.

The one thing this tool's article might do though, is add to the impetus for the NRL to revisit expansion sooner rather than later. But the people you have to blame for that not happening are the clubs themselves -- THAT is where the pressure is coming from to not expand (and dump the 7's, etc).

And btw, Union is just a rubbish game. My God it's boring to watch 99% of the time.

 

[BuffaloRules]

I hope laughing at your own jokes improves your self esteem Buffalo. And as for JK, if this superior fitness is so obvious, why do most forwards only play around 40 minutes a game in League.

You know I'm right pal...

13 shots at penalties in that game at 90 (minimum) seconds each...

The game has just been shortened to 60 minutes....

Add on stopages for line outs and scrums, and well you do the maths......

 

[legend]

Now now Tighthead. I didn't want my argument to seem specious and poor so I thought I would provide a few facts.

Sorry to have offended you.

 

[Pierced Soul]

I get it. Union sucks

 

[Dragons_#1]

how can you say that the union backs are the same as league's??? the union backs are way too slow, they'd probably only cut it as back-rowers in league.

are u joking mate???
most of the union backs would beable to run just as fast as a league back. Plus the union backs are around 100kg.
not saying union is better but that was a dumb comment.

 

[miketyson]

I think if you read between the lines of sam harris's comment what he is really saying is better athletes play League .. He wanted to better himself so he switched codes.

 

[Tighthead]

Now now Tighthead. I didn't want my argument to seem specious and poor so I thought I would provide a few facts.

Sorry to have offended you.

Don't worry Legend, you didn't offend me.

But you must admit it was pretty silly to extrapolate a 100m time from a 40m time.

 

[strong_latte]

Mortlock?????

he is the most overrated player in RU. Would struggle to make an NRL team.
Rathbone would be fine.
Morley would finish Larkhams career in about 3 secs (with a fair tackle) if he unwisely chose to run the ball vs the roosters.

Forwards running??? Bill Young, Baxter, Giffen......????? Surely you jest.

Someone with a screen name in reference to International Rugby League. HA.

Mortlock is not overrated. The only player that could have done what Mortlock did in the WORLD CUP semi final would be Ryan Girdler, and even if it was Girdler, he would do his hamstring 10m before the line. Fitter, my ass.

Well actually as a fan of both I'd have to say League players on the whole are fitter... That is without taking into account international Rugby Union, which have the best players and the toughest competition. But you can't seriously tell me that the Super12 teams, let alone the Union club teams have anywhere near the fitness level of first grade NRL sides... Rugby League is structured so it players are constantly moving, there are no stoppages for line outs, scrums, penelty goals (well rarely) etc. It's a basic fact, rugby league players need to have higher levels of fitness because of the constant action.

 

[Surely]

no stoppages ... what about when el masri has 8 shots at goal at 2 minutes a pop.

Then we can all stand around for 4 minutes while the video ref makes an ass of himself getting another decision wrong. I know the clock isn't running but neither are the players.

Don't they have scrums in league ?