no it isn't. the story is that a gang bang occured and the girl involved felt violated and used afterwards.
the issue here is that some people feel he behaved inappropriately/ took advantage of the girl or whatever and that is a bad look for the game, hence why he was stood down.
Gould simply said that he was worried about MJ's state of mind... implying he might cause himself some damage of some sort. It's drawing a long - and rather biased? - bow to say that Gould implied Johns was suicidal.
Gould simply said that he was worried about MJ's state of mind... implying he might cause himself some damage of some sort. It's drawing a long - and rather biased? - bow to say that Gould implied Johns was suicidal.
Committing self-harm or a suicide attempt is rock-bottom,
But has Gus? Or was he getting caught up in his own feelings for his mate?I've had enough experience with people with suicidal thoughts to know. Make of it what you will.
Exactly. But to be fair, MJ has had a pretty charmed run in terms of post-footy life/career compared to his contemporaries. The first time his bubble bursts is likely to seem a huge thing to him, but if he doesn't think he's done anything "wrong" then probably not to the state of suicide etc?I don't think so, I think that was exactly what Gus was suggesting. As to whether Gus's judgement was right, who knows? I think as a friend he was thinking worst case scenario, and it was probably hyperbole. But as a man on the inside and a close friend of Matt's, it goes to show just how seriously Gus thinks it has affected him. Committing self-harm or a suicide attempt is rock-bottom, and Gus feared that that is where Matt is being driven.
Yep Kiki, by being the ones to most publicly hang him out to dry (ACA interview) Ch 9 have set the scene for a massive redemption comeback when the time is right.yes i think thats the problem here, that the other guys came in.
and yes bart exactly, it was definitely a business decision. and as i've said before, once this all dies down im sure he will be back on channel 9. in fact i can see the footy show promoting a huge matty returns home special, cant you?
But has Gus? Or was he getting caught up in his own feelings for his mate?
I don't believe for one minute that Matthew Johns or Brett Firman raped "Clare" and I don't think either are being accused of it. I believe that Johns and Firman were in a motel room with "Clare" having consensual sex with her but that ten uninvited team mates entered the room and, for want of a better word, violated "Clare" without her consent. Not rape but sexual abuse/indecent assault, call it what you will.
Fair enough... though I think Gus let his emotions get away with him during that section of the show.The way he worded it, doesn't sound like he was overreacting to mere sadness.
But has Gus? Or was he getting caught up in his own feelings for his mate?
Exactly. But to be fair, MJ has had a pretty charmed run in terms of post-footy life/career compared to his contemporaries. The first time his bubble bursts is likely to seem a huge thing to him, but if he doesn't think he's done anything "wrong" then probably not to the state of suicide etc?
I'm sure with the changes to employment and his public image he's probably hands down a case for minor depression and some pills, and I think this is what Gus may have been trying to imply.
I think it is disingenuous to say there was no rape but there was sexual abuse, rape is any penetration without consent, your scenario would seem almost impossible without sexual assault. .
Fair enough... though I think Gus let his emotions get away with him during that section of the show.
He's concerned for his mate, probably hasn't seen him that glum about the situation he was facing etc, said what he said. Probably wanted MJ to see someone and talk about some support (eg possible onset of depresssion, short term drug treatment to help him through the bumps). But personally to think Gus was telling the public Johns was suicidal is probably a step beyond?
You still have to very careful, it only takes a few seconds in the depths of depression for somebody to take their own life, and then it is over forever. I would be hesitant to say he'll be right or downplay it as not that big a deal. Don't forget people like Charmaine Dragun or Steve Rodgers.