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Matthew Lodge Arrested in New York

Jason Simmons

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Not the first time Lodge has lost his shit and certainly won't be the last. Reminds me of Todd Carney in that does not appear to show any remorse or accept responsibility for his actions. We've all made mistakes but repeat offenders tend to be the ones that don't admit they've done the wrong thing and hence don't learn from their mistakes.

Except where you know, he has apologised at court, has apologised in writing, has apologised through his media interview with Yvonne Sampson (the one NRL 360 obviously conveniently forgot about...) and has stated ad infinitum he did the wrong thing.

Then he served his full 200 hours of community service, has undergone alcohol and drug counselling and rehabilitation, has endured his NRL ban without issue and has made 3 compensation offers to the victims...

Yeah, I guess in some people’s “minds” that isn’t accepting of his responsibility for his actions or showing remorse...
 

Mr Spock!

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Except where you know, he has apologised at court, has apologised in writing, has apologised through his media interview with Yvonne Sampson (the one NRL 360 obviously conveniently forgot about...) and has stated ad infinitum he did the wrong thing.

Then he served his full 200 hours of community service, has undergone alcohol and drug counselling and rehabilitation, has endured his NRL ban without issue and has made 3 compensation offers to the victims...

Yeah, I guess in some people’s “minds” that isn’t accepting of his responsibility for his actions or showing remorse...


“She (Yvonne Sampson) asked him what the counsellor said — and the counsellors, there were none. He said there’s been none."
 

Jason Simmons

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“She (Yvonne Sampson) asked him what the counsellor said — and the counsellors, there were none. He said there’s been none."

Really. So the court which ordered him to do just that, are satisfied by the evidence presented to them by his legal rep (as are the QRL and NRL I might add...), to the point they agreed to discharge his suspended 12 month jail sentence, but he didn’t actually undergo any counselling at all and he has just decided to admit this now to Yvonne Sampson, when he is just about to get his NRL career underway again?

Yep, that sounds likely...
 

Eion

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Except where you know, he has apologised at court, has apologised in writing, has apologised through his media interview with Yvonne Sampson (the one NRL 360 obviously conveniently forgot about...) and has stated ad infinitum he did the wrong thing.

Then he served his full 200 hours of community service, has undergone alcohol and drug counselling and rehabilitation, has endured his NRL ban without issue and has made 3 compensation offers to the victims...

Yeah, I guess in some people’s “minds” that isn’t accepting of his responsibility for his actions or showing remorse...
Offering amounts less than what he has been found he should pay is him ‘accepting responsibility ‘?
 

Raiderdave

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Nothing in Australia stops a victim if a crime that has been proven in a court of law resulting in the conviction of that person for that offence, from suing that person as well.

Where did you hear that rubbish?

cite one example
just one
i bet you can't

we have the victims of crime compensation scheme
thats all
there is no facility
none
for damages , punative or othwewise to be awarded to victims of criminal acts in ths country other then the scheme paid by the tax payer
& nor should there be
 

Vee

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[QUOTE="zmt, post: 12713088, member: You are so ill informed about peptides. It was easier for players to take a few week bans than fight it for a lot higher.[/QUOTE]So, sort of what Lodge did?
 

insert.pause

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Despite what you think of the whole thing, it's very obvious how coordinated it has been around his rd1 return. The victims lawyers released the CCTV footage and the victims held interviews with at least both Nine & the ABC on the same day in NY.
 

myrrh ken

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cite one example
just one
i bet you can't

we have the victims of crime compensation scheme
thats all
there is no facility
none
for damages , punative or othwewise to be awarded to victims of criminal acts in ths country other then the scheme paid by the tax payer
& nor should there be

Dopey davey you are wrong. Again.

You can still pursue a civil claim for damages via tort. Its just that people dont bother because gronks dont usually have money.

Heres one
https://www.smh.com.au/national/violent-husband-must-pay-wife-200000-20100108-lyvh.html
 

Jason Simmons

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cite one example
just one
i bet you can't

we have the victims of crime compensation scheme
thats all
there is no facility
none
for damages , punative or othwewise to be awarded to victims of criminal acts in ths country other then the scheme paid by the tax payer
& nor should there be

Just when you thought this thread was as geniused as it was going to get, along comes a Raiders fan to prove you wrong...

Here is your one example. Murn v Beesley SADC. Took all of 0.001 seconds to find according to Google...

https://www.websterslawyers.com.au/news/personal-injury-assaulted/
 

Jason Simmons

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Despite what you think of the whole thing, it's very obvious how coordinated it has been around his rd1 return. The victims lawyers released the CCTV footage and the victims held interviews with at least both Nine & the ABC on the same day in NY.

I know, right?

One might almost think this is simply a case of an ambulance chasing lawyer planning it this way, knowing full well the likelihood of this ‘judgement’ ever being enforced by the Federal Court is exceedingly low and they are trying to play the media game to get their cash, as it is the only possible way it might happen...
 
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insert.pause

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I know, right?

One might almost think this is simply a case of an ambulance chasing lawyer planning it this way, knowing full well the likelihood of this ‘judgement’ ever being enforced by the Federal Court is exceedingly low and they are trying to play the media game to get their cash, as it is the only possible way it might happen...
Yep, but doesn't change the fact he shouldn't have been registered to begin with.
 

Jason Simmons

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Yep, but doesn't change the fact he shouldn't have been registered to begin with.

The NRL has set the precedent that people convicted of violent offences can come back, so on that basis it’s a bit rich to say he can’t be registered.

However if you were to say that none of them can, I would probably agree.
 

myrrh ken

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The NRL has set the precedent that people convicted of violent offences can come back, so on that basis it’s a bit rich to say he can’t be registered.

However if you were to say that none of them can, I would probably agree.

What about two violent offences?
 

Canard

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This is my point though. The league has allowed people like Packer and Lui and Avua'a back in, there has to be a degree of consistency. If they were to adopt an approach like Cannard suggests of one serious strike and you are out permanently, then, that might be different. That leads to all sorts of shades of grey though about what is or is not serious enough conduct to justify a permanent ban. Is a drink driving offence sufficient? If they have two or three is that sufficient? If they are involved in a collision whilst drunk in charge, is that sufficient to ban them permanently? What if they are involved in a fight at a club or pub and get charged and convicted of assault, is that enough?

It also raises the issue as to whether an employer or governing body like the NRL have an obligation whether it be legal, moral or otherwise to assist a person who has gone off the rails but has taken proven and positive steps to rehabilitate themselves by supporting their rehabilitation. My understanding is that the governing body has been of the view that there is an opportunity if not an obligation to make a player a better person if possible and that this is best achieved by having them within the game and within the structure that a club provides.

You wonder if the NRL have a legal obligation to help criminals?

Are you f**king mentally deranged?

The constant victim blaming by you and your Broncos buds shows how mentally weak your fan base is
 
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