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MELBOURNE 3rd Test: Australia v India on Dec 26-30, 2014

TheParraboy

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100% agree with the part in bold

However, what did he say about Waugh? Did he try to come up with another lame excuse, like during last year's Ashes series when he was bitching about having to wear the baggy green in the first hour of a test match? He didn't seem to have a problem doing that during the Border/Taylor/Ponting years.

Waugh was the first to implement the ritual
 

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I thought the story of the day yesterday was Warnie only rating Gilchrist as third in the the best keeper list. Labelled Healy "everybody's choice" for 1st with Haddin coming in second. lol. Warney is such a bitch. On the BBL coverage the Ch 10 guys then engineered a look at the wicket keepers list and gave Gilchrist a chance to comment on his record. He responds by saying his biggest accomplishment was being able to keep to Shane Warne. "I missed a couple from him, but I took a few as well." All class.

Gilly was a freakish batsman but for the most part only a good keeper. If you take the complete package, there's a very good argument that he was the best, absolutely. But as a keeper second or third is pretty fair. Warnie is a tool, however, no argument there.
 

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Agenda-driven egotists like Warne should be nowhere near the commentary box.

It is no secret that like Steve Waugh, Warne never liked Gilchrist either. Tugga and Gilchrist weren't "one of the boys" - like Border, both of them were disciplinarians, had a strong work ethic and great captaincy/leadership skills. However, ppl like Mark Waugh/Healy/Slats etc. were Warne's drinking/punting buddies. Warne wasn't happy that his Victorian buddy, Darren Berry wasn't Healy's successor when he retired.

On top of that, Chappelli is one of Warne's mates and also takes the opportunity to bag out Tugga when it arises.

Edit: article regarding Warne's dislike of Tugga and Gilly:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...114323156?nk=a835cbd47edba37c8518f9c1f9411156

I don't mind watching/listening to it to be honest. A guy like Gilchrist is big enough to cope. I just think it's funny he does it. The master of deception should just carry on.
 

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Agenda-driven egotists like Warne should be nowhere near the commentary box.

It is no secret that like Steve Waugh, Warne never liked Gilchrist either. Tugga and Gilchrist weren't "one of the boys" - like Border, both of them were disciplinarians, had a strong work ethic and great captaincy/leadership skills. However, ppl like Mark Waugh/Healy/Slats etc. were Warne's drinking/punting buddies. Warne wasn't happy that his Victorian buddy, Darren Berry wasn't Healy's successor when he retired.

On top of that, Chappelli is one of Warne's mates and also takes the opportunity to bag out Tugga when it arises.

Edit: article regarding Warne's dislike of Tugga and Gilly:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...114323156?nk=a835cbd47edba37c8518f9c1f9411156
That article just goes to show what a bitter egotistical f**kwit Warne really is. Waugh and Gilly have far to much class to respond to someone like him.
 

Twizzle

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this is not a great promotion for drop in pitches, a draw most likely result which is not the norm for the G
 

vvvrulz

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Warne's 100 greatest cricketers (according to him) says it all really:

9. M.Waugh
10. Healy
12. Taylor
16. Gilchrist
18. Merv Hughes
20. Dravid
26. S. Waugh
32. Lehmann
39. Slater
41. Jayasuriya (!)
60. Hussey
76. Watson
77. Laxman (!)
81. Greg Mathews
82. Craig McMillan (wtf)
90. Inzaman

What a pile of fail
 

rickywalford1

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Gilly was a freakish batsman but for the most part only a good keeper. If you take the complete package, there's a very good argument that he was the best, absolutely. But as a keeper second or third is pretty fair. Warnie is a tool, however, no argument there.

I've got him as exceptional. Cannot remember anything about a bad test or keeping form issues throughout his career. Always clean. Took difficult chances, automatic on the easy ones. Great to Warne. No 1 for me.
 

Bazal

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Warne's 100 greatest cricketers (according to him) says it all really:

9. M.Waugh
10. Healy
12. Taylor
16. Gilchrist
18. Merv Hughes
20. Dravid
26. S. Waugh
32. Lehmann
39. Slater
41. Jayasuriya (!)
60. Hussey
76. Watson
77. Laxman (!)
81. Greg Mathews
82. Craig McMillan (wtf)
90. Inzaman

What a pile of fail

The comment I've always loved (and is alluded to in the earlier link) was that Steve Waugh was a batsman who saved matches but never won them. What? Is Warnie on a different planet?
 

JJ

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Warne's 100 greatest cricketers (according to him) says it all really:

9. M.Waugh
10. Healy
12. Taylor
16. Gilchrist
18. Merv Hughes
20. Dravid
26. S. Waugh
32. Lehmann
39. Slater
41. Jayasuriya (!)
60. Hussey
76. Watson
77. Laxman (!)
81. Greg Mathews
82. Craig McMillan (wtf)
90. Inzaman

What a pile of fail

What a geniused list
 

Bazal

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I've got him as exceptional. Cannot remember anything about a bad test or keeping form issues throughout his career. Always clean. Took difficult chances, automatic on the easy ones. Great to Warne. No 1 for me.

I have him as second. I think with a longer career a guy like Haddin could have ousted him, but Haddin never had to keep to a high quality spinner so he can't really compare to Gilly IMO. If you include batting and total value to the side Gilly is easily on top.

Speaking more generally I think people maybe forget how good Heals was. Marsh would be around Gilly too, although hamstrung by the same thing Haddin is. It's tough to compare guys like Haddin and Marsh to guys like Healy and Gilly because they never had Warne/McGill to deal with, so they maybe never got to show how good they were.
 

JJ

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LOL at any suggestion Healy or Haddin are worth discussing in the same context as Gilchrist.

Warne just gets worse IMO Inzy at 90 below McMillan and Watson, and Jamie f**king Siddons... Was Berry in there too???
 

African Monkey

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Warne's 100 greatest cricketers (according to him) says it all really:

9. M.Waugh
10. Healy
12. Taylor
16. Gilchrist
18. Merv Hughes
20. Dravid
26. S. Waugh
32. Lehmann
39. Slater
41. Jayasuriya (!)
60. Hussey
76. Watson
77. Laxman (!)
81. Greg Mathews
82. Craig McMillan (wtf)
90. Inzaman

What a pile of fail
Just read the full list, it was one of the worst lists anyone could come up with :lol:

Oh well just another 6 months before we can all listen to him have a go at Alastair Cook throughout the 5 tests.
 

Canard

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yeah there is, Ive never heard of an Australian player or other player for that matter say he disrepects players from the opposition in the middle of a test series. That was a disrespectful thing to say

Other than that , I didn't have a problem with what else he said

Saying an opposition player is scared, is genuinely disrespectful.

Saying a player is poor and weak even worse.

I support Australia 100% but they way we as fans and media carry on sometimes makes North Korea look fair and balanced.
 

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