MELBOURNE 3rd Test: Australia v India on Dec 26-30, 2014

[WaznTheGreat]

Joe Burns can't really be classed as an all-rounder.From what I have researched he has only bowled 6 balls in 1st class cricket.
He may well be a fair bowler but he certainly lacks experience at the top level in this area.
And Test cricket is a further step up!
Watson just needs to be content with his lot down the order & forget his big-headed ambition of being a No.3.
His job is to put together some handy runs & stick around with the tail & also just keep tying up an end with his tight bowling.His economical bowling is a frustration to the opposition & probably gets wickets for the other bowlers.

Watson can't bat under pressure,you don't escape pressure batting at number 6,if Watson can't handle coming in at 1/30 how would he do when he come's in at 5/60?

 

[Twizzle]

Our tail is handy, nothing more, you dont see them bat like the did in Adelaide all the time

 

[WaznTheGreat]

I was laughing when the media overreacted and started with the Mitchell Johnson all-rounder articles after his 88 with the bat,people tend to remember only the last thing they saw,Mitchell Johnson plays the odd entertaining innings but he certainly is not an all-rounder.

 

[doyen]

Watson can't bat under pressure,you don't escape pressure batting at number 6,if Watson can't handle coming in at 1/30 how would he do when he come's in at 5/60?

Watson just needs to get off his high-horse & accept the fact that he is definitely NOT a No.3.He should never have pushed himself as a No.3,IMO.
I don't particularly like him as a cricketer or his attitude as a team-member but he has enough to offer the team as an all-rounder; which includes his fielding.
At this stage of his career he matches Andrew Flintoff[better really]in batting & bowling.
Flintoff--Test batting ave 31.77[Watson 36].
Flintoff--Test bowling ave 32.78[Watson 32.23].

IMO,he's a pretty big-headed bugger,who,because of this attitude,has created his own unnecessary pressure.
Boof needs to give him[finally]a huge wake-up call about his future & his place as a team member.The time of him running his own race should be over.

 

[TheParraboy]

I just wanna smack Indian butt, don't care if we do it Via a Sunshine triple ton or a Steve Smith double hat trick. Wanna grind them to two demoralising defeats next two tests.

Then sometime after the WC and ashes series, we can "slowly" but surely prepare playing over there, rather than waiting till the last minute with no preparation and picking Glenn "I don't know the head from my ass" Maxwell in the test side as desperation

 

[Rabbits20]

I just wanna smack Indian butt, don't care if we do it Via a Sunshine triple ton or a Steve Smith double hat trick. Wanna grind them to two demoralising defeats next two tests.

Then sometime after the WC and ashes series, we can "slowly" but surely prepare playing over there, rather than waiting till the last minute with no preparation and picking Glenn "I don't know the head from my ass" Maxwell in the test side as desperation

Agreed

 

[JJ]

Watson just needs to get off his high-horse & accept the fact that he is definitely NOT a No.3.He should never have pushed himself as a No.3,IMO.
I don't particularly like him as a cricketer or his attitude as a team-member but he has enough to offer the team as an all-rounder; which includes his fielding.
At this stage of his career he matches Andrew Flintoff[better really]in batting & bowling.
Flintoff--Test batting ave 31.77[Watson 36].
Flintoff--Test bowling ave 32.78[Watson 32.23].

IMO,he's a pretty big-headed bugger,who,because of this attitude,has created his own unnecessary pressure.
Boof needs to give him[finally]a huge wake-up call about his future & his place as a team member.The time of him running his own race should be over.

You really need to dig deeper into the numbers if you want to make those comparisons - regardless of averages, there is no comparison between them as bowlers... I really don't think that warrants more comment

As batsmen, Watson will soon have an average similar to Flintoff's - I don't thin Flintoff (or anyone) argued that he should bat I the top 3...

 

[lockyno1]

Haddin is the best keeper.

Hartley isn't a better wicket keeper.

Whiteman needs 2 years more development he's not ready and won't be in 12 months.

Haddin's batting could improve you can't say it won't.

We need Haddin to start making more 30s. Not getting out for 10 or under.

So you haven't seen domestic cricket. Thanks for clearing that up. Hartley is the best glove man in Australia period. Luderman next who is useless with the blade. Whiteman next (but he is a year away). Then Haddin and Nevill. Haddin is a good glove man, but he isn't a great one.

 

[lockyno1]

Ok. Opening is now the same as batting 3.

Burns batted at 3 for qld in his first season. Natural number 3 or 4.

 

[lockyno1]

Locky what do you reckon of Chris Lynn?, a replacement for Sunshine or Sean Marsh over the next 12 months (preferably sooner)

I applaud Burns being in the side. I think he will steadily do well

In test cricket? Not for me. Too much of a one sided player. There are probably a few better options than going there for mine. I would be looking at Maddinson, Travis Head, etc. Long-term Jake Doran bats 3, Burns at 5, Smith at 4.

 

[Martin Bella's Luvhandles]

Lyon should get a go - he is a freakish talent

If Australia was picking their top 6 bats m.hussey would be called back in

 

[JJ]

So you haven't seen domestic cricket. Thanks for clearing that up. Hartley is the best glove man in Australia period. Luderman next who is useless with the blade. Whiteman next (but he is a year away). Then Haddin and Nevill. Haddin is a good glove man, but he isn't a great one.

Can't comment on the others, but yeah, Haddin is just a good keeper, nothing special (but comparisons with Wade might make him look really good) - previously his batting was a huge advantage, now his experience and leadership...

 

[lockyno1]

Lyon should get a go - he is a freakish talent

If Australia was picking their top 6 bats m.hussey would be called back in

The Big Show is 'a freakish talent' too...

 

[doyen]

You really need to dig deeper into the numbers if you want to make those comparisons - regardless of averages, there is no comparison between them as bowlers... I really don't think that warrants more comment

As batsmen, Watson will soon have an average similar to Flintoff's - I don't thin Flintoff (or anyone) argued that he should bat I the top 3...

I definitely don't argue for Watson as a No.3--thought I made that clear.

I just reckon he may still have a bit to offer if steered in the right direction.
All along the selectors have recognised his potential but also his vulnerabilities---because of his potential to win games they have persevered with him.I don't particularly agree with that but I can see why it's occurred.

He,IMO,was never suited to No.3 & never really earned his right to get that job.
He should have always been nurtured as more of a batting all-rounder.
His bowling is very adequate & he knows how to effectively slow the scoring rate.This I believe gets wickets for more attacking bowlers like Johnson etc.
Flintoff's figures are nothing to write home about either--even so,I know,he is still fairly well revered!!

 

[hineyrulz]

Big call. I'd probably like to see how he handles test cricket befor making any sort of determination like that.

Yeah massive call :sarcasm:

 

[rickywalford1]

Stuart Law talking up burns for 3 on news.com. Says he is a terrible waiter. Hence the reason for opening this year and having success.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Says he is a terrible waiter.

Better switch him to a job in the kitchen..







Sorry.

 

[TheParraboy]

Stuart Law talking up burns for 3 on news.com. Says he is a terrible waiter. Hence the reason for opening this year and having success.

don't tell twizzle that, he should be able to bat anywhere...

 

[Twizzle]

In test cricket? Not for me. Too much of a one sided player. There are probably a few better options than going there for mine. I would be looking at Maddinson, Travis Head, etc. Long-term Jake Doran bats 3, Burns at 5, Smith at 4.

Shouldn't we wait till Jake Doran gets a game for NSW first, before we start spouting off at the knob over him.

 

[hineyrulz]

Shouldn't we wait till Jake Doran gets a game for NSW first, before we start spouting off at the knob over him.

I hear he has nice Tints and a great tan, massive future for him.