Mergers and Premiership Tallies

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Wallow my word is that of a nobleman your word is that of someone who's been telling lies for 2.5 months.

The Judge would see my moral crusade and against your morally reprehensible actions of you and your cronies it would be an easy decision.

Because doing the decent and right thing always wins in the end.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

We won the comp. That is all.

Once again I congratulate you on your maiden premiership.

Willow, change that to Jedi Knight for the name, and saving LU from your evil in the right and looks good.

 

[muzby]

Because doing the decent and right thing always wins in the end.

really? always?

*edit* ah crap, why did i do that? now the peanut will have even more delusions of grandeur and think he's jesus...

 

[Joker's Wild]

Once again I congratulate you on your maiden premiership.

Willow, change that to Jedi Knight for the name, and saving LU from your evil in the right and looks good.

This you in the Vader mask Baron?

 

[muzby]

jokers.. i thought this was him..

 

[2010Dragons]

20Kinghts10
Are you going to support another team now the they have changed ?

NEW name: "The Coal & Allied Newcastle Knights"

Does this mean The Coal & Allied Newcastle Knights have NEVER won a premiership?
You could always come back to the Mighty Dragons.
You will need to change your login Id to "20TheCoal&AlliedNewcastle Kinghts10".....Wow what a mouth full.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Buddy they are still the Newcastle Knights, have a look at who's registered with the NRL.

For the past 12 years the St George-Illawarra Dragons have been registered with the NRL.

The St George Dragons and Illawarra Steelers are not.

 

[20knights10]

So you say....


So they raised the matter with the NRL..?? was this informal? I mean if you raise something, especially something as important as this issue, wouldn't it be considered to be a request for formal discussion? and by discussion I mean debating the issues that are raised..??


Speak for yourself wallow..... I'll retract nothing. You've just contradicted yourself... you have however not shown any evidence that there was any "matters raised" with the NRL by the St George Dragons club... it's just an unsubstantiated claim by yourself... and for all intents and purposes it's a claim that there was a formal debate between the club and the NRL.....

and you have the hide to call others liars.....

btw wallow... I notice you left alone the point I made about your claim the NRL had a dilemma regarding "what to do with St George"... no comment eh..??

There will never be an official record showing that the StG Dragons have won 16 premierships, unless the JV folds and they once again win a premiership as a one club team.... in exactly the same way as the Illawarra Steelers will never have an official record of winning 1 premiership unless the same situation were to occur for them..... ie: neither will ever happen.... pretty pictures, petty insults, idle threats, flaming, repeated mantras, etc etc will do nothing to change these simple facts.... just as it should be.....

The bolded sections above are what you once again choose to selectively remove from your responses below, as per usual.

So they raised the matter with the NRL..??

Yes, they raised it in the past. That's what I said, and it stands to reason.

I also said that imo the club should do more.

Do you need it in triplicate?

Was this informal?

Rambo, you seem to be hung up on that word. Once again, this is your red herring. All I'm saying is that club has raised it with the NRL in the past.

It seems to be important to you. So you either believe it or you don't. Which is it?

Speak for yourself wallow..... I'll retract nothing. You've just contradicted yourself... you have however not shown any evidence that there was any "matters raised" with the NRL by the St George Dragons club..

So you do want it in triplicate. :lol:

I love it when someone is so sure of themselves about something they know nothing about.

OK Rambo, seeing it means so much to you, I'll do my best to show you that the club has indeed raised the matter in the past. Will you retract then? This being the bed you just made for yourself.

and you have the hide to call others liars..... :roll:

You sure are walking into this with eyes closed. Will I get sheepish apology as well? :lol:

I don't expect you to address them because to do so would highlight your inability to justify your stance on this. If you do however manage to find proof that there were "matters raised with the NRL" then I will accept that you were in some way telling the truth but I won't retract what I've said because in all the times I've asked for evidence you've avoided the issue. Not a single comment from any St George official to state that the NRL should review it's decision to officially record the 2010 premiership as the StGI Dragon's maiden premiership. In fact apart from an opinion piece in a league's club magazine and other sentimental comments from a couple of league reporters there is nothing to show that there is a groundswell of support for recognising the 2010 premiership as the dragon's 16th. On the contrary ever official site recording rugby league statistics recognises it as their maiden premiership. Even the official team mascot is officially recognised as only existing since 1999.....

so no wallow, I don't want it in triplicate, just a single piece of evidence will do. Even if you do manage to provide this i have nothing to appologise for regardless. You've ducked and weaved and avoided all attempts to get you to show that there is valid reason for this year to be considered the Dragon's 16th premiership with lies, insults, selective quotes and all other manner of artifice in your usual repertoire and yet again live in complete denial that you've again been shown to have zero substance.....

Now as has been said many times, you have every reason to treat this years as the 16th for the dragon... but it defies logic to record it that way officially... period...

 

[muzby]

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

St George-Illawarra fans and reality.

On a completely different playing field!

 

[muzby]

better sue them baron, that's just not fair...

 

[drake]

St George-Illawarra fans and reality.

On a completely different playing field!

says a guy who takes his online nickname from a thick witted fictional knight that swore service to a pre-pubescent red headed midget with megalomania.

Bastard.

 

[muzby]

^^ careful drake... baron's wearing his litigation underpants today...

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

says a guy who takes his online nickname from a thick witted fictional knight that swore service to a pre-pubescent red headed midget with megalomania.

Bastard.

Mightiest Knight of the realm, heck he even beat a lion with his bare hands dude so she must have been something special...... Even if she was a ranga!

 

[20knights10]

20Kinghts10
Are you going to support another team now the they have changed ?

NEW name: "The Coal & Allied Newcastle Knights"

Does this mean The Coal & Allied Newcastle Knights have NEVER won a premiership?
You could always come back to the Mighty Dragons.
You will need to change your login Id to "20TheCoal&AlliedNewcastle Kinghts10".....Wow what a mouth full.

Are you as stupid as this post would indicate?

 

[Dragon Dave]

How is everybody?

16.

 

[20knights10]

i thought you'd left to go and spend some time with your swedish wife who's 11 years younger than you?

Just a little piece of information for you to be unable to digest, but reminding me that I have a Swedish wife who happens to be 11 years my junior does not irk me. What does irk me is that "figuratively" I've been smashing you from ass hole to breakfast time in this forum but it's becoming more and more apparent that you're actually about 35 years my junior... I'm not proud of that so I will not be engaging in further banter with you, at least for another 6 years or so...... I realise I could be wrong and it's only your mental age that is approaching teen-hood, but that's hardly a consolation... so :nwave:for now little girl....

 

[Sans Souci Sainter]

How is everybody?

16.

Couldn't be better Dave.

Did you hear about Saints in the GF?

 

[Jason Maher]

No wonder Kevvie got rolled by the ranga, he missed the boat spectacularly when identifying climate change as the great moral issue of our time. He's a bloody Queenslander, so he should have known that the great moral issue of our time is in fact ensuring that all and sundry acknowledge that the St. George and Illawarra are as alive as Elvis, and that St. George-Illawarra (a completely new entity with no relation whatsoever to the two not-so-alive entities just mentioned) has won exactly one premiership, no more, no less.

 

[Willow]

If you do however manage to find proof that there were "matters raised with the NRL" then I will accept that you were in some way telling the truth

I don't need your acceptance rambo. I'll be posting what I want, when I want just to show you again how little you know.

I note that it does seem to be upsetting you a lot. 2010 Premiers - your worst nightmare come true.

but I won't retract

Of course you won't. That's because the penny has just dropped that I was setting you up and you're now bracing yourself for another let down.

That, and you haven't got the courage to admit that you're full of crap. It's obviously getting to you.

in all the times I've asked for evidence you've avoided the issue.

I have never once said that the NRL or any of their club websites officially recognise the 16 premierships.

I have my view and I know the club has contacted the NRL about this in the past. I also hold the view that the club should do more. Said this repeatedly. Why you think I'm saying something else is between you and the voices in your head.

Not a single comment from any St George official to state that the NRL should review it's decision to officially record the 2010 premiership as the StGI Dragon's maiden premiership.

Well that's not entirely true. The club chairman referred to the premiership as the first in 31 years - you quoted it yourself. You simply put a different spin on it and have been playing semantics ever since.

Plus there was a Football Club AGM in 2002 from which the club released the following (the extract below was taken from a release from the Club Journal in 2002, a posted as an article here):

Dragons: "One history, 15 premierships"
[SIZE=-1]Kogarah, 03 December 2002: It has been announced at the St George Football Club Annual General Meeting (AGM) that the history of the St George and Illawarra Dragons will be unified.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Leagues Club CEO, Peter Doust declared, "One history, 15 premierships" - bringing huge applause from the assembled members.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]The revised history will acknowledge 82 years of history since St George joined the first grade in 1921 and Illawarra in 1982. Entitled, "1921-2002: Our Proud History" the Annual Report outlines the premierships in the following way:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]First Grade: St George 15; Illawarra 0; St George Illawarra 0 - TOTAL: 15[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]A '2003 premiership victory' will be represented thus:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]First Grade: St George 15; Illawarra 0; St George Illawarra 1 - TOTAL: 16[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]The emphasis being on the TOTAL.[/SIZE]

I suspect you'll want this in triplicate too.

In fact apart from an opinion piece in a league's club magazine and other sentimental comments from a couple of league reporters there is nothing to show that there is a groundswell of support for recognising the 2010 premiership as the dragon's 16th.

Well you don't know everything rambo.

It's not like you did any indepth research on the question. The world doesn't begin and end with google - sometimes we have to read reports, journals, emails and wait for it, we sometimes have to talk to people as well.

But if this thread is anything to go on, some posters are defintely afraid of any support for recognising the 2010 premiership as the 16th.

so no wallow, I don't want it in triplicate

lol. bullsh*t.

just a single piece of evidence will do. Even if you do manage to provide this i have nothing to appologise for regardless.

Which means you're right even when you're wrong. lol. You've just dropped to the same level as baroness.

insults

Diddums.

Hypocrite.

you have every reason to treat this years as the 16th for the dragon...

Why thank you.

but it defies logic to record it that way officially... period...

Can I ask, are you stupid? Genuine question.

I mean, you've gone to all that trouble and blown a gasket along the way, only to half realised that I am the holder of an opinion.

But you still feel the need to demand proof of this, proof of that, and build a strawman argument of mammoth proportions. Don't get me wrong, if my viewpoint upsets the sore losers and trolls, then all the better. But one can only wonder why an opposing opinion is causing you so much angst.

Is it because I caught your dopey mate lying? And therefore you feel obliged to go on the front foot in defending its honour?

Or perhaps it was something I said? In which case you're just a sook.

Or is it (as I suspect) just a simple case of you hurting over the premiership result?

At the end of the day, if I disagree with the NRL's 'official' stance, I'll say it. And no amount of tantrum chucking from a petulant misfit is going to change that. Capiche?