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Mitchell Pearce

Caped Crusader

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Silver lining time

If Pearce does win, a big IF, we NSWwelshmen can rub it in the faces of Qlders for years to come. I can think of nothing more embarrassing for them to lose to a proven Origin dud like Mitchell
 

gUt

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In all honesty he probably does deserve another shot and maybe he's finally up to the challenge mentally.

f**k being in a position of having to come up against Smith, Thurston, Cronk, Slater and Lockyer year after year.
 

adamkungl

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I wonder if the teams that got pounded by St George in the golden era blamed one bloke year in year out
 

Hutty1986

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This thread has a serious kungl infection that needs medical attention.

Must be a cream or something you can get for that.
 

mxlegend99

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I wonder if the teams that got pounded by St George in the golden era blamed one bloke year in year out
If he were remotely decent at Origin we could win.

Many years we have had a backline as good or better. A forward pack as good or better and it was the halves and hooker where the quality was night and day.

DCE was in that team full of immortals and looked shit. He wasnt even considered when Thurston was injured. Club form was ignored and they chose Milford. Because DCE is a proven failure at Origin level.

The difference between the two teams is Pearce has had unlimited chances.
 

papabear

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I wonder if the teams that got pounded by St George in the golden era blamed one bloke year in year out
Give me a break.

Carney, Soward, Campese, Mullen, Wallace all copped there share of blame, but unlike pearce didnt get another shot after another shot after another shot.

In my opinion,
2006 we just choked or were to cocky as a side.
Then for a few years we got burnt by Inglis all round to strong a side.
Then our spine is not good enough.

Lets look at Pearce's career
2008 1 Game 1 Loss
2010 Picked game 2 and 3, lost game 2 and 3
lo and behold he is back.
2011 picked for game 2 and 3. He finally picks up a win winning game 2 (good on him) loses the decider.
He is now at 1 W 4L

But ok maybe he has turned a corner?
2012 picked for the entire series, wins game 2, loses the other 2 including the decider
Now he is 2W and 6 L and been in involved in 4 series losses 0 wins

2013 picked for the entire series again, win game 1.. lost g2 and 3.
3W and 8L with 5 series losses and 0 wins

2014 first series with no mitchell pearce in 4 years, no pearce and no gidley and lo and behold we win the series, the main man being a halfback who cant get a start at newcastle. Basically NSW shone through enough in other positions to overcome the weakness in the halves, and they didnt have a halfback f**king up so many plays.

2015 Pearce is back - we get whitewashed. Aftr just winning a series they bring the nimrod back.. Really. Ya Really.

He is now at 3W 11L and 6 Series Losses and 0 wins.

2016 - No pearce, we go down 2-1 only winning the dead rubber, but atleast we looked good with maloney and moylan in the halves.

Now we are going with a halves pairing whom have won 0 SOO series. Despite many attempts and the main culprit being pearce.

Pretty sure pearce has more games then any nsw half except for stuart, daley, sterling and maybe some other I have missed yet his win loss recrd and series record is absolutely woeful compared to them.

When will roosters fans see, that mitchell pearce has been nsws worst most consistently picked origin half ever.
 

Pedge1971

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What choice did Laurie really have but to pick Pearce? The only other realistic option is to pick Moylan to partner Maloney.

I'm OK with the selection.

Bird partnering Maloney. I guess by HT next week we will have a reasonable view of the Pearce selection either way.
 

Pedge1971

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I wonder if the teams that got pounded by St George in the golden era blamed one bloke year in year out

No one blames Pearce on his own. But he has completely shat the bed as a half year after year on the big stage when NSW had either had the better of the match or at least held parity.

This ignores the odd Suncorp blow out but there has never been a lot between the 2 teams.

Not just by having a quiet match but poor last tackle options (hardly any repeat sets) kicks out on the full, failing to find touch, poor service to his outside men, blowing f**king 5 man overlaps. Look at the lowlights reel in the origin thread.

In 2015 he was dumped and we played a safe but serviceable option and low and behold our better fwds and outside backs win us the series.

Moral to the story, be competent Mitch and dont shit the bed and with our team we will probably win.

But get off your high horse about every one being on poor little Mitchs case. He is paid to close out games and keep momentum going with his kicking and passing game and he has been f**king piss poor at that. That is why his selection raises so much debate.......
 
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He really is the only 7 in NSW that was making a compelling case to be picked. Everyone else is woefully out of form.

It's not Mitch's fault that he's been given another shot, It's every other half back in NSW that is to blame because you simply couldn't have picked any of them.

It's a win / win for everyone other than Mitchell Pearce and Adam Kungl though. If we win... Hey we beat QLD. If we lose we get to blame Mitchell Pearce.

I see that there's already a whole bunch of troll accounts popping up on social media waiting for the result.

My personal favorite is "The same photo of Mitchell Pearce everyday" Facebook page. Hilarious!
 

Big Pete

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Has there ever been a bigger scapegoat than Mitchell Pearce?

The Blues could have selected anyone to play his role and it wouldn't have made a difference. Save for one series where Queensland lost key players in the middle of the game, they've been far too good.

It isn't like there's been other #7s who have put their hands up for the Sky Blue and some of the other selections have either reeked of personal agenda or compromise.

I'm confident Pearce and the rest of the NSW side will fail in the coming week, but I doubt Reynolds, Moylan, Townsend or whoever else would have been able to make much of a difference. At least not from what we've seen of them so far.
 

Hutty1986

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Has there ever been a bigger scapegoat than Mitchell Pearce?

The Blues could have selected anyone to play his role and it wouldn't have made a difference. Save for one series where Queensland lost key players in the middle of the game, they've been far too good.

It isn't like there's been other #7s who have put their hands up for the Sky Blue and some of the other selections have either reeked of personal agenda or compromise.

I'm confident Pearce and the rest of the NSW side will fail in the coming week, but I doubt Reynolds, Moylan, Townsend or whoever else would have been able to make much of a difference. At least not from what we've seen of them so far.

NSW could have (and in some cases, should have) won the series in 2006, 2012, 2013 and 2016. Qld were far too good in 07/08/09/10 (though NSW won game 1 in 2008) and were obviously far too good when it mattered in 2015.

There hasn't been a shortage of close games, there's been a complete & utter lack of execution from NSW in the key moments of deciders. Qlders like to throw up the 'but Cronk was busted' in 2014 argument, but weren't they up 8-0 or so when he came off, and who played game 2 for the Maroons? The bloke they reckon is the 'GOAT' and DCE, who was playing some good footy at the time and won the comp as a young kid a few years before. NSW's defence was immense in game 1 2014, just incredible (and hasn't been sighted any other time from us in the past 11 years).
 

OldPanther

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Has there ever been a bigger scapegoat than Mitchell Pearce?

The Blues could have selected anyone to play his role and it wouldn't have made a difference. Save for one series where Queensland lost key players in the middle of the game, they've been far too good.

It isn't like there's been other #7s who have put their hands up for the Sky Blue and some of the other selections have either reeked of personal agenda or compromise.

I'm confident Pearce and the rest of the NSW side will fail in the coming week, but I doubt Reynolds, Moylan, Townsend or whoever else would have been able to make much of a difference. At least not from what we've seen of them so far.

He's not a scapegoat. His record says it all.
 

Big Pete

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NSW could have (and in some cases, should have) won the series in 2006, 2012, 2013 and 2016. Qld were far too good in 07/08/09/10 (though NSW won game 1 in 2008) and were obviously far too good when it mattered in 2015.

There hasn't been a shortage of close games, there's been a complete & utter lack of execution from NSW in the key moments of deciders. Qlders like to throw up the 'but Cronk was busted' in 2014 argument, but weren't they up 8-0 or so when he came off, and who played game 2 for the Maroons? The bloke they reckon is the 'GOAT' and DCE, who was playing some good footy at the time and won the comp as a young kid a few years before. NSW's defence was immense in game 1 2014, just incredible (and hasn't been sighted any other time from us in the past 11 years).

The Maroons were far too good in all their series wins. Even in the close games, Queensland had experience where it mattered most and the Blues could have had Mullen, Orford, Campese, Carney, Soward, Hornby or whatever other 'amazing' alternative was, the result was always going to be the same.

I'm not discrediting the Blues effort in 2014 either, rather Pearce's omission wasn't the difference between victory or defeat.
 

Big Pete

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He's not a scapegoat. His record says it all.

His 'record' was manufactured by being thrown in the deep end before he was ready under the foolish guise that he was a 'project' player.

He wasn't ready and he's had to wear the brunt of it because no other #7 put their hand up at that time.
 

Hutty1986

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The Maroons were far too good in all their series wins. Even in the close games, Queensland had experience where it mattered most and the Blues could have had Mullen, Orford, Campese, Carney, Soward, Hornby or whatever other 'amazing' alternative was, the result was always going to be the same.

I'm not discrediting the Blues effort in 2014 either, rather Pearce's omission wasn't the difference between victory or defeat.
Agree re. 2014, have made my point about the other years.
 

OldPanther

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His 'record' was manufactured by being thrown in the deep end before he was ready under the foolish guise that he was a 'project' player.

He wasn't ready and he's had to wear the brunt of it because no other #7 put their hand up at that time.

Tell that to Brad Fittler and Loz who both started young and were successful.
 

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