It works all the time lol. For an outsider like me, it's really funny to see how polarized Aussie sports fans are. It's always "us" vs "them". As if all codes were mutually exclusive and it was impossible to like one without bashing the others. FYI, I'm a fan of both League and Union and even happen to like soccer. What sort of beast is that, you must be thinking...
Also for your information, there are many dual codes fans in France, and it's generally accepted that new league fans will have to be drawn from the union ranks. Which makes union-bashing even more counter-productive.
As for Top 14 the comp is a tremendous success and this is good news for French RL as well as it shows the strong appetite and potential for rugby codes. With a market big enough to accomodate both !
It's fascinating how quick the word "troll" comes up when you (and a few others) are presented with an unconvenient truth. Actual facts that challenge your certitudes.
It works all the time lol. For an outsider like me, it's really funny to see how polarized Aussie sports fans are. It's always "us" vs "them". As if all codes were mutually exclusive and it was impossible to like one without bashing the others. FYI, I'm a fan of both League and Union and even happen to like soccer. What sort of beast is that, you must be thinking...
Also for your information, there are many dual codes fans in France, and it's generally accepted that new league fans will have to be drawn from the union ranks. Which makes union-bashing even more counter-productive.
As for Top 14 the comp is a tremendous success and this is good news for French RL as well as it shows the strong appetite and potential for rugby codes. With a market big enough to accomodate both !
My comments have nothing to do with truths or untruths of your posts troll boy. I just find you dumb, boring, uninteresting, annoying, pathetic, inept and repugnant.
Nothing personal of course
Here Here. But you know having a positive opinion on these forums might get you labelled as a troll.
No.
Being a troll on these forums will get you labelled a troll.
Not sure the previous poster was in the same mindset, that's what drove my reply.;-)
Your perception of European rugby's economics is inaccurate but it's what you've been told by the Aussie media so fair enough. Actually rich owners' money accounts for less than 5% of clubs' budgets (and only in a handful of clubs). The business model is very sound. Top 14's attendances, though average by Australian standards, are the highest in Europe for a non-soccer competition and so are the ratings.
As for RL no other club outside Ligue 1 (soccer) and Top 14 get bigger crowds than Les Catalans, which is encouraging.
Ok, define troll. Not your definition but "the" definition.
Would you like all the dictionary definitions or would you prefer to just accept the label and wear it like a badge of honour?
Ok, a geniused badge but still a nice shiny badge...
So if someone happens to disagree with you, like ANY other sport as well as league and think the RL has no problems currently ( as do others mind you) then that defines you a a troll right?
I'm so offended by Kalgoorlie's article, i'm going to campaign for Perth to never EVER have an NRL side.
Boring, boring, boring! Who give a sh*t about that frog yawnoin game. It's frken as boring as boring gets. And so is this troll coming in here trying beat it up.
Go suck SBW ya troll
Another thing -the record Top 14 crowd for a GF is around 75k - plonk in the middle of it's heartland. Challenge Cup crowds at Wembly always topped 90k. Most making a 5-6 hr trip to see it.Sky Sports 1 Individuals 4+ Viewing (Including Timeshift) - w/e
06/04/2008
Programme 000's
1 LIVE FA CUP FOOTBALL (Sun 1532) 1570
2 FORD SUPER SUNDAY (Sun 1300) 1407
3 LIVE FORD FOOTBALL SPECIAL-MATCH (Sat 1200) 998
4 GILLETTE SOCCER SATURDAY (Sat 1500) 524
5 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (Sat 1755) 331
6 SOCCER AM (Sat 0900) 243
7 LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE DARTS (Thu 1930) 236
8 LIVE SPEEDWAY (Mon 1930) 205
9 GOALS ON SUNDAY (Sun 1100) 204
10 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WEEKLY (Sun 1830) 182
Sky Sports 2 Individuals 4+ Viewing (Including Timeshift) - w/e
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1 UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE LIVE (Wed 1900) 1676
2 LIVE EUROPEAN RUGBY (Sat 1653) 207
3 LIVE EUROPEAN RUGBY (Sun 1200) 179
4 LIVE EUROPEAN RUGBY (Sun 1422) 135
5 YOU'RE ON SKY SPORTS (Wed 2230) 130
6 LIVE EUROPEAN RUGBY (Sat 1430) 126
7 SPANISH FOOTBALL (Sun 1958) 103
8 LIVE EUROPEAN RUGBY (Sat 1935) 82
9 SPANISH FOOTBALL (Sun 1757) 66
10 LIVE RUGBY LEAGUE (Thu 1929) 60
Surely you're aware that Top 14 is the French comp, while GP is the English one???OK, Top 14 gets more crowds than ESL. I'll give you that. Given that Top 14 is a national comp, played in bigger cities than Hull, Wigan, St Helens etc, we'll call it a pyrrhic victory for the Volvo drivers.
Surely you're aware that Top 14 is the French comp, while GP is the English one???
I'm not commenting on union in the UK (which is in rude health), I know Superleague outrates it (though TV rights are higher for the GP).
I'm commenting on the fact that the worst rating Top 14 games get more viewers than the biggest Superleague games. The average audience in Top 14 is 548,000, on Pay TV as well.
I'm not saying it's good or bad, I watch both comps. The thing is rugby (and this includes league) is number 1 in the south of France, while Superleague is still far behind soccer in its heartland. Surely over the next few years Superleague will be able to increase its audience.
As for Leeds being the biggest drawing club in Europe as someone said, SF and Toulouse in the Top 14 get 24k and 20k averages respectively.
n France, Canal +, the television channel that covers the Top 14 club competition, revealed that of the 200,000 viewers who had initially switched on to watch the Toulouse v Biarritz match - a match between two of France's flagship clubs - nearly half of them switched off at half-time.
Unfortunately, I happen to have a good memory ;-)n France, Canal +, the television channel that covers the Top 14 club competition, revealed that of the 200,000 viewers who had initially switched on to watch the Toulouse v Biarritz match - a match between two of France's flagship clubs - nearly half of them switched off at half-time.
Now, realizing that Superleague is left behind by Top 14 you're calling the NRL to the rescue Funny how insecure you guys are. Why not recognise that there can be several healthy competitions in this world?Union that gets played in europe and is the so called World game :lol: gets outrated by the NRL which is played in a Country with a small population. It just gets worse for Yawnion!
Don't call me a troll! Have you done anything fruitful to defend the code?