My AMNRL Vision

[BatiFan]

Here is what I would love to see happen in the USA for rugby league. I know it may seem totally unrealistic at this stage, yet hopefully one day it will become a reality (or something similar).

West Division (12 Teams):
Los Angeles
San Diego
San Francisco
Portland
Seattle
Phoenix (Arizona)
Salt Lake City (Utah)
Denver
Hawaii
Sacramento
Boise (Idaho)
Vancouver

Central South Division (6 Teams)
Dallas
Houston
San Antonio
Oklahoma
Kansas City
St Louis (Missouri)

Central North Division (6 Teams)
Chicago
Minneapolis (Minnesota)
Indianapolis (Indiana)
Detroit
Cleveland
Kentucky

South East (8 Teams)
Miami
Orlando
Jacksonville
Atlanta
Nashville (Tennessee)
Charlestown (South Carolina)
New Orleans
Jackson (Mississippi)

North East (12 Teams)
Boston
New York City
Buffalo (New York State)
Connecticut
New Jersey
Philidelphia
Baltimore
Washington DC
Richmond (Virginia)
Pittsburgh
Toronto
Montreal / Ottawa

These divisions would all then play home and away fixtures in their division, before the top 3 from the West and North East and top 2 from the other divsions qualify for the national final 12.

This is just my ideal set up and will probably never come to fruitiion, but oh well its good to dream

 

[Woods99]

Batifan,

Your dreams are no more fantastic than, say, the dream that rugby league will establish itself in Singapore, or anywhere else in Asia, for that matter.

As long as you don't make the mistake of mistaking your dreams for reality.

 

[roopy]

I think the fact that Lachlan Murdoch has moved back to Australia is a set back for hopes of rapid development in the US, because there is now very little chance of TV coverage - and that would be essential for a pro or semi pro league.

Having said that, the game is still enjoying steady growth in both fan base and player numbers, and new areas sign up each year.

 

[hutch]

Batifan,

Your dreams are no more fantastic than, say, the dream that rugby league will establish itself in Singapore, or anywhere else in Asia, for that matter.

As long as you don't make the mistake of mistaking your dreams for reality.

you're an absolute toss. comments not needed. go to a different forum and talk about the sport where fat people push hard and tall people jump high, and the rest pretend to be footballers.

 

[Big Bunny]

Batifan,

Your dreams are no more fantastic than, say, the dream that rugby league will establish itself in Singapore, or anywhere else in Asia, for that matter.

As long as you don't make the mistake of mistaking your dreams for reality.

Why did you bother posting that?

 

[Big Bunny]

I quite like the idea of including the Canadians in the mix. The more I think about it, the more I'm becoming fond of regional leagues that are defined by natural geography rather than man made borders. A good example of that is Der Kaiser's Alpine League that will include both German and Austrian clubs, it just makes a lot of sense. It's a shame that the old Tri-Counties league never kicked on between the 2 Canadian clubs and the New Yorkers.

 

[taipan]

Batifan,

Your dreams are no more fantastic than, say, the dream that rugby league will establish itself in Singapore, or anywhere else in Asia, for that matter.

As long as you don't make the mistake of mistaking your dreams for reality.

Sort of idiotic immature comment I used to get from rah rahs at private school.Woods 99 is just reciting the same old union mantra.Better spend your time supporting your otherwise hopeless national team, facing another possible record consecutive loss.Are there any more fat forwards out there to give the scrum some shove.
Back to the subject,the west coast of the US is a must down the line for development,for without the support of expats(and there are decent numbers in that area) at the start ,the task is so much harder.
Lachlan Murdoch whilst he is not involved with News ltd/New York,still is involved as no1 ticketholder with the Broncs,his wife is a league fan,so maybe all is not lost especially as he has contacts in the US>it will be harder of course.

 

[Evil Homer]

Yeah and he keeps posting because you lot keep biting to him...

 

[GBT2]

Batifan,

Your dreams are no more fantastic than, say, the dream that rugby league will establish itself in Singapore, or anywhere else in Asia, for that matter.

As long as you don't make the mistake of mistaking your dreams for reality.

Isn't Japanese RU little more than a figment of the imagination? And they are the strongest union nation in Asia.

Although America could be considered a fantasy to many, there is something legitimate about it.

 

[Gato]

Good thoughts BatiFan, although the number of teams may be a bit unrealistic the concept may not be too far off from happening. The AMNRL could be a few key sponsors away from forming something similiar to the USA rugby union Superleague. I could see two eight team divisions seperated by East and West. The divisions would only play their division during the regular season for travel/expense reasons and crossover games for the playoffs. I think a few current teams in the league should combine to start and also bring on new cities. The Philadelphia area could combine to make two stron sides, NY could build just by being where they are, the two CT teams could combine, DC, Boston, and start moving West. Still a ways from happening but not unrealistic. Sponsorship is the key so player travel expense could be supplemented. It's a lot easier to get a full squad to travel if you only ask them to pay $100 for a flight and hotel room instead of $400.

 

[Tomahawk]

Here is what I would love to see happen in the USA for rugby league. I know it may seem totally unrealistic at this stage, yet hopefully one day it will become a reality (or something similar).

West Division (12 Teams):
Los Angeles
San Diego
San Francisco
Portland
Seattle
Phoenix (Arizona)
Salt Lake City (Utah)
Denver
Hawaii
Sacramento
Boise (Idaho)
Vancouver

Central South Division (6 Teams)
Dallas
Houston
San Antonio
Oklahoma
Kansas City
St Louis (Missouri)

Central North Division (6 Teams)
Chicago
Minneapolis (Minnesota)
Indianapolis (Indiana)
Detroit
Cleveland
Kentucky

South East (8 Teams)
Miami
Orlando
Jacksonville
Atlanta
Nashville (Tennessee)
Charlestown (South Carolina)
New Orleans
Jackson (Mississippi)

North East (12 Teams)
Boston
New York City
Buffalo (New York State)
Connecticut
New Jersey
Philidelphia
Baltimore
Washington DC
Richmond (Virginia)
Pittsburgh
Toronto
Montreal / Ottawa

These divisions would all then play home and away fixtures in their division, before the top 3 from the West and North East and top 2 from the other divsions qualify for the national final 12.

This is just my ideal set up and will probably never come to fruitiion, but oh well its good to dream

As I would love to see your vision come true, I just do not see the AMNRL ever becoming as big as you say. I say this because there are the “Big Four” sporting markets they would have to compete against with them being Football/Hockey/Basketball & Baseball. Then you can not forget college football and basketball, NASCAR, golf, and a few other sports that have a strong hold on the American Sports market.



If anyone would like this idea of yours to come true I would be one of them. I work with Dave Nui constantly and my goal someday it to have a professional league. Even know I have only be playing for 3 years, and am not on the same playing level as most of my teammates I will be know as one of the first people to play Rugby League in the US. I can say I was on two championship teams the 2004 & 2005 Glen Mills Bulls.



As for you list, their will always be a Glen Mills Bulls team. I say that because this is the team that started the league off. This team has 6 AMNRL championships in 8 years. They are the most dominate team is the AMNRL was formed, in my opinion.



I also believe you will always have Philadelphia and New Jersey as two teams. This being because this is the area were Rugby League started in the US. Then you can not forget New York, Connecticut, and Boston. This because these are the areas were the AMNRL succeed very well.



As for your division I believe you may be able to have each division with 4-6 teams. The NFL I believe only has 32 teams. In a professional league you do not want more then 32 teams. This is one reason the NHL went on a 1 year strike/sit-out.



As for your vision of Canada teams, I would love to see this happen. However, there would have to be a market for these teams to survive. Remember baseball just died in Canada.



Well there is my .02 cents. It was getting to long side I stopped, and just hit on a couple of things I thought were important. Bati Fan we can chat more about this in private if you would like or anyone else.



Tomahawk

Aka “Falcon”

Glen Mills Bulls

 

[Big Bunny]

Yeah and he keeps posting because you lot keep biting to him...

No, he keeps posting because he's an arsehole. That people reply has nothing to do with it, except further confirm that.

 

[Copa]

What has been the follow up to the Oz V US game in terms of RL development? Did anything come out of that?

 

[BatiFan]

Tomahwak some valid comments in there mate. Here would be a revised list to get the number of teams down:

West Division: (10 Teams)

LA, San Deigo, San Francisco, Pheonix (Arizona), Salt Lake City (Utah), Portland, Seattle, Denver, Vancouver, Sacramento or Boise (Idaho)

Central Division South: (10 Teams)

Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, St Louis (Missouri), Oklahoma, Memphis (Tennessee), New Orleans, Chicago, Indianapolis (Indiana), Detroit

Eastern Division: (12 Teams)

New York City, Connecticut, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Boston, Cleveland (Ohio), Washington DC, Orlando, Miami, Atlanta, Toronto, Baltimore

They would be my teams, taking the league to 32 teams, however, you could further scale that down based on interest in various locations in rugby league.

 

[taipan]

Yeah and he keeps posting because you lot keep biting to him...

yeah he sticks his glass jaw out each time,he gets it smacked.He is that dumb.

 

[Woods99]

Isn't Japanese RU little more than a figment of the imagination? And they are the strongest union nation in Asia.

Although America could be considered a fantasy to many, there is something legitimate about it.

GBT2,

Yeah, Japan is a "figment of the imagination" with over 4000 clubs and 125000 registered players.

There is certainly something legitimate about all genuine domestic sporting competitions, but I wonder about the value of dreaming.

 

[Woods99]

Sort of idiotic immature comment I used to get from rah rahs at private school.Woods 99 is just reciting the same old union mantra.Better spend your time supporting your otherwise hopeless national team, facing another possible record consecutive loss.Are there any more fat forwards out there to give the scrum some shove.

Errr, what about us rah rahs who attended government schools, do we count?

I think most Australians actually enjoy good international sport. Last time I checked, the Wallabies were the most recognisable sporting brand in the country. As for the losses, well, as Wayne Bennett said, that goes with the territory of a competitive environment. Do you really prefer to see the Kangaroos win year after year after year after......well, you get the drift.

Back to the subject,the west coast of the US is a must down the line for development,for without the support of expats(and there are decent numbers in that area) at the start ,the task is so much harder.
Lachlan Murdoch whilst he is not involved with News ltd/New York,still is involved as no1 ticketholder with the Broncs,his wife is a league fan,so maybe all is not lost especially as he has contacts in the US>it will be harder of course.

Taipan, all is never lost when there are still some dreamers around to dream their dreams.

 

[Kingbunny]

I think most Australians actually enjoy good international sport. Last time I checked, the Wallabies were the most recognisable sporting brand in the country. As for the losses, well, as Wayne Bennett said, that goes with the territory of a competitive environment. Do you really prefer to see the Kangaroos win year after year after year after......well, you get the drift.

Actually,I believe the cricket team would be the most recognised team in Australia, then the socceroo's even when they are losing. This bullsh*t about the Wannabes being the most recognised team/brand in Australia is all ARU media propaganda.

The questions are: how much has the ARU spent in creating this illusion to the Australian public ? How much money do they spend on air time on pay TV and FTA TV ?

Simple Answer : sh*tloads.

Now f**k off idiot !

 

[Woods99]

Actually,I believe the cricket team would be the most recognised team in Australia, then the socceroo's even when they are losing. This bullsh*t about the Wannabes being the most recognised team/brand in Australia is all ARU media propaganda.

The questions are: how much has the ARU spent in creating this illusion to the Australian public ? How much money do they spend on air time on pay TV and FTA TV ?

Simple Answer : sh*tloads.

Now f**k off idiot !

Could you define "sh*tloads"? Why would they spend the money to do something as silly as "creating an illusion"? How much are they spending, and on what? They must be almost as rich as the Murdochs

Talking of creating illusions, wouldn't you say that a thread about the possible future of the AMNRL is exactly that ..... the creation of illusions?

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Would someone ban this clown?