Napa sin bin

[Russell Coight]

Not intentionally into someone else’s head

Lol good talk

 

[Meapro Ham]

Isn't the onus on the tackler not to make contact with the head these days even if accidental? So in my opinion if you go in hard and high like Napa did resulting in a head clash I would have thought that he is in the wrong for creating the possibility of the head clash with the high driving tackle, even if the head clash is accidental.

Deserves the suspension in my opinion.

Napa would have been a great player back in the days when it was ok to use your shoulder to make contact with the head. He would have been a feared defender like Morley who specialised in those shoulder to the head bell ringers. But nowadays he is just a liability under the current rules.

 

[THE CHAMP]

I've never met anyone ever who just decides to use their head as a weapon which is what you're implying

Is napa a kamikaze pilot??

Going by your logic there is no such thing as a headbutt.
Did that get through?

 

[TheFrog]

I've never met anyone ever who just decides to use their head as a weapon which is what you're implying

Jarryd Hayne used to enjoy a good head butt back in the day. Then there were the pommy touring sides of the 60s and 70s. Used to call it a Liverpool kiss.

Interestingly enough, the first time Hayne gave one of his fairy taps with the noggin he didn't get cited. Second time he got a week. There was no third time.

 

[Valheru]

Not every single tackler goes in to make head first contact turning their head to hit with the back of their head. This is delusion at it's finest. If every tackler went in like that scores would be knocked out or have broken jaws each week.

I agree

We are on the same page.

 

[Russell Coight]

Going by your logic there is no such thing as a headbutt.
Did that get through?

So you're telling me in a split second naps thought process went from wanting to tackle the Brisbane player into "maybe I should headbutt him instead"

Qld team mates and all too.

 

[M2D2]

Going by your logic there is no such thing as a headbutt.
Did that get through?

Every time someone says that it shows that they are f**king geniused and have never played the game.
Because shock horror, a headbutt is not the same as an accidental headclash and no matter how many times people say "it was intentional" it doesnt change the fact that it wasnt intentional in the slightest.
Poor technique is not the same as intent.

 

[Wests is Best]

In my opinion the first time you could defend it saying it was miss-timed and and unintentional as he wasnt looking at the defender. Second time around same player, similar tackle, you have to say the technique is very bad and the tackling style is reckless bordering on intentional

 

[Russell Coight]

In my opinion the first time you could defend it saying it was miss-timed and and unintentional as he wasnt looking at the defender. Second time around same player, similar tackle, you have to say the technique is very bad and the tackling style is reckless bordering on intentional

Pretty much my opinion on this. Bad tackle technique, reckless but not intentional

Suspension is warranted and hopefully he can tweak his tackling so it never happens again

 

[Danish]

Jarryd Hayne used to enjoy a good head butt back in the day. Then there were the pommy touring sides of the 60s and 70s. Used to call it a Liverpool kiss.

Interestingly enough, the first time Hayne gave one of his fairy taps with the noggin he didn't get cited. Second time he got a week. There was no third time.

People who deliberately headbutt tend to do it with the crown of their noggin, not the side of their head near their ear.

Napa just haa a shitty on the edge tackling technique. 10-15 years ago absolutely everyone on this forum would have loved that hit. Now it’s illegal.

 

[TheFrog]

Napa just haa a shitty on the edge tackling technique. 10-15 years ago absolutely everyone on this forum would have loved that hit. Now it’s illegal.

You can't allow a tackling technique with such a high likelihood of serious injury. The sport would be badly exposed. They used to drive blokes head first into the ground years ago without penalty. Times change.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

When you tackle where do you put your head?

Not into the face of the player I'm tackling.

 

[Russell Coight]

Not into the face of the player I'm tackling.

What about if said player is trying to step to avoid contact, slipping into the tackle? I doubt Napa has the reaction time of an olympic sprinter to move his head out of the way in time, we are talking milliseconds.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Every time someone says that it shows that they are f**king geniused and have never played the game.
Because shock horror, a headbutt is not the same as an accidental headclash and no matter how many times people say "it was intentional" it doesnt change the fact that it wasnt intentional in the slightest.
Poor technique is not the same as intent.

No matter how many times people say it was, that was not an accidental head clash. That was caused by Napa’s reckless tackling style. And accidental head clash would come about when two players collide with their heads despite the best efforts of both to avoid head on head contact.

Napa was making no effort to avoid head contact.

 

[Springs09]

Every time someone says that it shows that they are f**king geniused and have never played the game.
Because shock horror, a headbutt is not the same as an accidental headclash and no matter how many times people say "it was intentional" it doesnt change the fact that it wasnt intentional in the slightest.
Poor technique is not the same as intent.

It wasn't intentional, if it was intentional he should be looking at half a year or more.

The tackle was horrid and he's lucky to only get 3 weeks. If we are to the point where a shoulder charge to the chest or shoulder gets you 2 weeks then attacks to the head like this should be punished much worse.

 

[yobbo84]

3 weeks? Lucky he didn't throw a water bottle or hit a Morris brother with a viscous elbow to the throat.

IMO it's either not illegal, and he gets nothing, or it was illegal, and he gets 6+ weeks. Very middling response from the NRL.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

What about if said player is trying to step to avoid contact, slipping into the tackle? I doubt Napa has the reaction time of an olympic sprinter to move his head out of the way in time, we are talking milliseconds.

Which is why Napa’s technique of aiming his head at the upper body and turning his head away as they get close is dangerous and reckless.

If everyone tackles like Napa then why are there not 26 broken jaws every match?

 

[Russell Coight]

Which is why Napa’s technique of aiming his head at the upper body and turning his head away as they get close is dangerous and reckless.

If everyone tackles like Napa then why are there not 26 broken jaws every match?

We're sorta on the same page. I do think it was reckless, i'm just not buying the it was intentional line

 

[Springs09]

What about if said player is trying to step to avoid contact, slipping into the tackle? I doubt Napa has the reaction time of an olympic sprinter to move his head out of the way in time, we are talking milliseconds.

Yet somehow every other player manages to not get themselves into this position. This isn't an outstretched hand that slaps a player across the cheek.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

We're sorta on the same page. I do think it was reckless, i'm just not buying the it was intentional line

There is an issue in that he should have seen the warning signs of him breaking Sims' jaw earlier in the year with an identical technique. The fact that Napa indicated then he would not change his tackling technique is almost admission of intent to injure, but the blame lies squarely on the MRP for not charging him for the original incident.