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Napa sin bin

What should the refs have done?

  • Send-off

    Votes: 39 36.4%
  • Sin-bin

    Votes: 10 9.3%
  • On report and penalty

    Votes: 25 23.4%
  • Scrum to roosters

    Votes: 33 30.8%

  • Total voters
    107

Valheru

Coach
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19,244
Why are people this geniused? You aren't allowed to lead with the head and if he didn't knock him out with his head he would have knocked him out with his shoulder.

You get 2 weeks for bumping someone in the chest with your shoulder now, this sort of contact with the head needs a big suspension, accident or not (why do people even say this? Most foul play is accidental, should we stop penalising high tackles?)

Every single tackler leads with their head. Try tackling someone front on with your shoulder and arms wrapping around and tell me your head isnt in front
 

Front-Rower

First Grade
Messages
5,297
Every single tackler leads with their head. Try tackling someone front on with your shoulder and arms wrapping around and tell me your head isnt in front

So every tackler goes into a tackle with their head down and rises it up straight into the opponents body/head? Where did you learn to tackle?
 

jack coburn

Juniors
Messages
475
Anyone who ever strapped on a boot knows you have to lead with your head but to the side.
Napa’s head against sims was not to the side with this one it was . Would have still hit him with the shoulder so would be looking at a holiday anyway
 

Valheru

Coach
Messages
19,244
So every tackler goes into a tackle with their head down and rises it up straight into the opponents body/head? Where did you learn to tackle?

Where did you learn comprehension? That's not what i said.

I said every player leads with their head, which they do, the difference is they use the correct shoulder and don't make contact with their head.
 

TheFrog

Coach
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14,300
The guy clearly has a problem with his tackling technique. His technique is dangerous. The sport cannot allow dangerous tackling techniques like this. No one else does head charges. Just one player.
 

skot

Juniors
Messages
55
Just heard that Napa has been charged with Grade 3 which means 3 weeks/games if uncontested...4 if contested and fails or less if he can get it downgraded or beaten. My question is ...If it is 3..is that 3 Weeks or 3 games. In the normal season it is virtually the same BUT when Finals are involved, the Roosters could win their first semi and get a bye the next week....Is the bye counted as one of the games for the purpose of the suspension.
 

blaza88z

Coach
Messages
15,187
not even the most biased Roosters fan can create an acceptable defense (doesn't stop them trying though), no chance he gets off
 

Front-Rower

First Grade
Messages
5,297
Where did you learn comprehension? That's not what i said.

I said every player leads with their head, which they do, the difference is they use the correct shoulder and don't make contact with their head.

You haven’t answered my question. Do players, like Napa has done, charge, charge being the key word, with their head down, and then rise their head into the opponents upper body/head?
 

Maximus

Coach
Messages
13,836
You mean the same accident that has only happened twice in probably over 5000 tackles hes made in his career?

Accidental headclashes happen. It's a collision sport, happens every week even

It's not a head clash unless you are going to tell us a headbutt is a head clash

Look forward to all head clashes now being suspended. Graham would have been gone for his clash with burgess

f**k off out of here with this intellectually dishonest garbage. Burgess and Graham were the cheeks colliding ie. the definition of a head clash. Napa's was the top of his head hitting the jaw. They are not in any way similar. The idea that this sets a precedent for incidents like that is bullshit and you know it.
 

Exsilium

Coach
Messages
10,348
The guy clearly has a problem with his tackling technique. His technique is dangerous. The sport cannot allow dangerous tackling techniques like this. No one else does head charges. Just one player.

Penrith have a problem with their tackling technique but the issue is, we never see them tackle so who’s to know if it’s good or bad ;)
 

Russell Coight

Juniors
Messages
719
It's not a head clash unless you are going to tell us a headbutt is a head clash

Except he was going in for a big hit and was made worse because macca stepped and fell into him. When you go in for a driving tackle where do you think your head goes? Downward, up right, backwards or forwards?

It was careless yeah, just like any swinging arm is careless. Lol at people who think he did it intentionally though
 

Danish

Referee
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32,019
Just heard that Napa has been charged with Grade 3 which means 3 weeks/games if uncontested...4 if contested and fails or less if he can get it downgraded or beaten. My question is ...If it is 3..is that 3 Weeks or 3 games. In the normal season it is virtually the same BUT when Finals are involved, the Roosters could win their first semi and get a bye the next week....Is the bye counted as one of the games for the purpose of the suspension.

Technically it’s 3 weeks, not 3 games - but bye weeks don’t count.

So assuming we take the early plea, he’ll miss next week and our first 2 finals games (either week 1 and 2, or week 1 and 3).

The reason it’s actually3 weeks and not 3 games is because years ago someone - broncos maybe? - had a suspended player suit up for a reserve grade game on a Sunday after he had served his final game of suspension during a 1st grade game earlier in the same weekend. They changed the rule after that so that all suspensions keep you from playing any football for a set amount of weeks - not including byes.
 

Grapple

First Grade
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5,014
Telling Napa to change his tackling technique, is like telling Mike Tyson after he bit Holyfield's ear to change his boxing technique.
 

Pommy

Coach
Messages
14,657
Just heard that Napa has been charged with Grade 3 which means 3 weeks/games if uncontested...4 if contested and fails or less if he can get it downgraded or beaten. My question is ...If it is 3..is that 3 Weeks or 3 games. In the normal season it is virtually the same BUT when Finals are involved, the Roosters could win their first semi and get a bye the next week....Is the bye counted as one of the games for the purpose of the suspension.

Pretty sure it’s games and people change that to equate weeks.
If you get a ban in the tail end of a season it carries over to the next season. I remember George Burgess throwing a water bottle in someone’s general direction and missing the opening week/weeks of the next season.
 

skot

Juniors
Messages
55
"So assuming we take the early plea, he’ll miss next week and our first 2 finals games (either week 1 and 2, or week 1 and 3)."

So a 3 game suspension and if Roosters winning all their games means he is out until the Grand Final....next week, 1st Semi & Preliminary Final...as I understand that Winners of the 1st Semis go directly through to the Prelim......have I got that right
 

Russell Coight

Juniors
Messages
719
"So assuming we take the early plea, he’ll miss next week and our first 2 finals games (either week 1 and 2, or week 1 and 3)."

So a 3 game suspension and if Roosters winning all their games means he is out until the Grand Final....next week, 1st Semi & Preliminary Final...as I understand that Winners of the 1st Semis go directly through to the Prelim......have I got that right

Spot on, he will either play in a prelim if they make it or the gf
 

Valheru

Coach
Messages
19,244
Just heard that Napa has been charged with Grade 3 which means 3 weeks/games if uncontested...4 if contested and fails or less if he can get it downgraded or beaten. My question is ...If it is 3..is that 3 Weeks or 3 games. In the normal season it is virtually the same BUT when Finals are involved, the Roosters could win their first semi and get a bye the next week....Is the bye counted as one of the games for the purpose of the suspension.

It is 3 games
 

Valheru

Coach
Messages
19,244
You haven’t answered my question. Do players, like Napa has done, charge, charge being the key word, with their head down, and then rise their head into the opponents upper body/head?

No thus the punishment.

Simply leading with your head is done in every tackle though. So let's at least define what the issue is properly.
 

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