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Nathan Brown on Sterlo's Couch

Jono078

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Hey guys, looks like were going to get a real honest interview on tonight's edition of Sterlo on the couch, here's a preview:

NATHAN Brown has bared his soul in a brutally honest interview for On the Couch with Sterlo, revealing the biggest reason the Knights are in a deep hole.In a wide-ranging one-on-one interview, Newcastle’s new coach has outlined the biggest challenges he faces to make the Knights competitive and revealed in detail the strategy he’s already implementing to turn the club around.
Brown identified Newcastle’s salary cap mess as one of the biggest problems he faces and gave his opinion for how it eventuated.


To catch the full interview, tune in to On the Couch with Sterlo, 7.30pm (AEDT) tonight on Fox Sports 1, or on the encore screening at 9.30pm (AEDT)!

“One of the things, when the club ends up in a situation like Newcastle is, it generally happens when a number of coaches have been brought in over time,” Brown said, recounting the circumstances surrounding the coach changes from Brian Smith to Rick Stone to Wayne Bennett and back to Stone again.
“ ... Things went how they did and the club basically needed a total clean-out.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...755dec3b2e4e39fb7ef5ba764efeb?from=public_rss
 

Misanthrope

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No Foxtel at my hotel. I'll dance at the wedding of whomever posts a summary for me after it's done.
 

Jono078

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I'll break down a few things.

- he was disappointed with a number of individuals and their efforts in round 2. He wants everyone to compete for 80 minutes
- he has a long term plan and wants to focus on developing rookies. He said some senior players will be moved on in the next 18 months
- he's not going to do anything crazy to win now, we have money to spend but we're not going to spend it if it's not going to be a signing that fits with the plan
- he's not concerned about supporter base getting angry with lack of results. He wants to set up the club to be in a good place, even if he gets fired, he wants his successor to say I've inherited a good roster

I really like Brown and he's confident of building the team as he's done it numerous times already. I hope he receives full support from the club to do his thing.
 
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He didnt really add to anything we didnt already know.

He is here for the long haul to build the club. He's not here to get quick wins he's here to generate a successful club year in year out. If/when he leaves he wants to hand over a club that is ready to go and not a broken club.

He also mentioned that they arent just going to buy anyone who comes on the market and will be very selective when it comes to recruiting.
 

Zoidberg

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I do like what he says and his attitude to the job at hand.

Hopefully it will pay off for him (and us).
 

Burwood

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It's good that he's willing to piss off the supporter base (the grannies I'm guessing) if it is for the good of the club. Past coaches have been guilty of either looking for a quick fix, or in Stone's case, being too scared to rock the boat and possibly upset senior players or the fan base. Brown needs to be able to implement his plan without fear.
 

PhilGould

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Who would the senior players who are on the way out in the next 18 months be? Smith, Snowden & Mullen are the ones I can think of
 
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He needs five years. Minimum. This fella gets it. He knows what it takes. He is willing to develop local kids which is a huge plus to the general Knights fan. If he continues to build a squad of local juniors and brings in quality to be the spine then he will get as much time as he needs. Will also offset the inevitable whingers who will blow up when Aku and Mullo are most likely sent packing. Probably why he won't be rushed into buying just anyone. Players need to know he is trying to build a winner culture if we are ever going to bring marquees in. Brown's approach will at least open the eyes of potential TPA investors,
 

macavity

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Honestly, he is trying to find a silver lining on a nuclear cloud.

It's his job, and credit to him.

But you have to laugh at strategies like "we have to hide our best juniors from the big clubs"...
 

Burwood

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Reckon we'll have salary cap problems this year? With the number of rookies we're blooding, I can't see us not going over the 2nd tier salary cap at some stage.
 
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Browny is taking questions for knights insider on Facebook. Go and ask him anything you want, the knights page are pretty good at putting all questions to him regardless of how stupid they may be.
 

Spot On

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It would seem Brown has quickly identified the same players for termination that a few of us in here have consistently found reason to question over a long period. Some people have continually defended them but excuses don't mean shit to Brown. Bring on the clean out and FFS we can only hope the club and fairweather supporters have the brains to let the coach do his thing and see it through for as long as it takes.
 
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...s/news-story/9e3755dec3b2e4e39fb7ef5ba764efeb

KNIGHTS coach Nathan Brown has revealed he will go to extreme lengths to keep other clubs away from Newcastle’s top young talent.

In a revealing and wide-ranging interview for On the Couch with Sterlo on Wednesday night, Brown bared his soul about the biggest challenges he’s taken on by taking arguably the NRL’s hardest job in 2016.

One of the major issues he has is the salary cap mess he’s inherited and after identifying why Newcastle were in such a poor position, he said he would use subterfuge to stop the NRL’s most powerful clubs from cherrypicking Knights young guns.

To catch the full interview, tune in to On the Couch with Sterlo on the encore screening at 9.30pm (AEDT)!


“We’re trying to get as many of our young kids signed up as we can and then obviously, playing first grade, we’d like them signed up longer term,” Brown told On the Couch with Sterlo.

“As it stands at the moment, we can’t afford to introduce Player X into first grade if he’s coming off contract because if Canterbury or the Roosters or Brisbane really, really want him they can just blow us out of the water.

“The key for us is trying to identify the right ones, keep them in our system and then before they play first grade make sure, you know, we’ve got them on contract for two or three years and they like where we’re heading, so when their contract’s coming nearer they want to stay and be a part of where we’re going.


“ ... You’ve got no chance of keeping them all, the game’s so much more competitive than it was 25 years ago and there’s a lot more scouts out there now than there was 25 years ago.

“Identifying them and keeping them from when they’re say 15 or 16 is a challenge on its own.”

Already in 2016, Brown has given four young players — Jaelen Feeney, Pat Mata’utia, and twins Jacob and Daniel Saifiti — their debuts as well as selecting three youngsters — Lachlan Fitzgibbon, Nathan Ross and Danny Levi — with less than 10 NRL games under their belt.

Brown admits that strategy will cause short-term pain but expects all of those players to be better for it, with the coach already seeing signs that at least four of them will be long-term NRL players.

“I’ve got no doubt some of the kids who are playing first grade already are guaranteed good long-term players for the club, there’s no doubt about that,” Brown said.

“I wouldn’t say all six or all seven (of the rookies) who are playing are but I would say there’s four of them that are definite long-term first graders and there’s two or three that, if they make the right choices for where they want to get to, they’re definitely players who could make a career in Newcastle, or through cap reasons you might lose them to elsewhere.

“The one thing we don’t want is that we’re getting to the stage where we’re putting young kids in first grade and they aren’t going to be first graders, so when we get to that stage that’s when we’re going to have a bit of a problem.

“But at the moment we’ve lost our first two games and we got a bit of a tickle up from Souths the other day, the scoreboard was a bit embarrassing, but you know all the kids we put out there, if they work hard enough on their games and they want to do it, they can all carve some sort of career out, which is important.”

While Brown has spoken several times about his wish to rebuild the Knights around local youth, he admitted at some stage the club would have to go to market to recruit some experienced players.

However, he cautioned that the salary cap mess is so deep the Knights are likely two years away from making any big moves.

“At the moment we’re not (close to being able to sign anyone),” Brown said.


“Our salary cap’s in a horrible shape at the minute but we’ve brought Darren Mooney in who’s played a big part in (putting together) Cronulla’s current squad so we’re working through that and obviously there are going to be players who have started off who won’t survive the test of time.

“Retirement will come for some and contracts will end and some longer term players will move on over the next sort of 18 months, two years.

“In the meantime we’ve got to work out what good young players we have and what we need.

“You’re never going to have a side that’s full of Newcastle blokes, but what we need to bring in from the outside, at the moment it’s too early to determine.

“We’ve got to keep the young kids going, we’ve still got a few more we want to bring in, and then we’ve got to work out what type of player we actually need; what position is it to start with and what do we need.

“Obviously we’re definitely going to need one or two players over the journey who are experienced but what position are they and who are they, it’s very, very early to say at the moment — I couldn’t give you a call on that.”



Brown admitted that a key to Newcastle’s successful teams in the past was making the right choices when bringing in recruits from outside the club’s development system.

He identified Ben Kennedy as “the most successful” but stressed the importance of identifying the strengths of the current squad rather than panic buying to appease the fans.

“The one thing Newcastle did do well over (their successful periods) was sign well from outside.

“As you said about Ben Kennedy he was probably the most successful outside signings they’ve ever made.

“Once we get the young kids up to speed and we know actually, well this kid’s definitely going to be a good NRL player, well then we can have a look and go to the powers that be and see if we can make things work.

“At that stage, when that comes, well I’m sure if we can manage our roster right for the next two years then I’m sure we can start looking at those things down the track.”
 
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I agree with this approach. Brown has hit the nail right on the head. A key will be to keep developing talent through the lower grades.
Snowden will be gone, Uate will be gone, Smith will retire or head OS, McManus won't be back. Hodko is short term - he's here for a job and will get it done. I think Gagai will move on.

I don't think there is a single "experienced" player out there that has shown for awhile that they deserve to be in the 2 or 3 top players on high(er) pay. I've often backed Mullo and I think he has the ability but not the psyche. I reckon he'll defeat himself as a result of being on the outer.

Longer term we are going to need a few players who are, quite simply, outstanding.

We've had players in the past who could turn a game. Butts wasn't outstanding but when heads where held low he'd make a massive bust and the whole team would lift.

Johns was critical but we spent so much money on him that when his career ended with us we proceeded to fall apart. That was a factor in getting into this mess but not the only one.

Hopefully we can get some spirit back into this place so that the younger guys want to stay and those outside the club want to come to us.
 
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Yeah, and as Brown said, we really wont have room to move for another 18 months, which is when all those players you mentioned have moved on. Once this happens we really need a marquee signing, instead of throwing all our cap on outside backs we need to throw decent money at a spine player at the top of his game.

Hopefully when we are able to make a big signing, all these young guys are first grade quality and have formed a solid base.
 
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The article in the Newie Herald about the travel plan for the Warriors and Storm games away shows again that this fella's an absolute class act at preparation. Flying from Auckland to Melbourne rather than home first is a superb idea. Reduces travel time and wasted time in airports. He has also organised with an AFL club to use their facilities to conduct training drills, weights etc.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Ive always wondered why this doesnt happen more often.

I remember a few years ago Melbourne bitching that they had to travel to Brisbane one week then NQLD a week later (or something to that effect). Why they thought it was necessary to fly home between the 2 games instead of setting up camp in Brisbane for a wee i will never know.
 

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