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NBA Season 2010-2011

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Hornets remain perfect and the Heat drop their second game

sh*t Bosh knocks a 3 down with 7 seconds left to keep the Heat in it. Haven't seen any of the game but how does Bosh manage to only pull one board down in 33 minutes?

It hurts him that Wade and Lebron are such great defensive rebounders (for their positions). They generally get themselves in great positions when the ball goes up. What Bosh needs to do is focus on offensive rebounding (and 2nd chance points). There should be plenty of opportunities to do that on this Heat team.
 

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Yeah thats the big question, do the Nets give up Favors, if they can get Melo to sign a 5 yr deal i would.

Would Denver take other players like Murphy - expiring contract.

No way imo.

They might as well just let Melo ride out the season and lose him in a sign-and-trade.

Favors would have to be in there for the Nuggets to consider it.
 

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Anyone else notice that in Baron Davis' absence, Bledsoe has been pretty decent.

In his last 3 games he's averaged; 14.3 points (62 FG%), 3.6 rebounds, 8.3 assists, 1 steal. Not bad.
 

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With Iggy hurt, we get a chance to see Turner get some serious minutes.

Not too bad. 14 points (6-11 FG) 10 rebounds 3 assists and steal. Philly beat the Knicks 106-96.
 

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Minny lose their fifth straight with the combined margin over those 5 games being 130 points (26 per). On track to win 12 games. 4 of their next 5 are on the road as well so this could be a miserable start for the Wolves (1-11 or 2-10 are easily forseeable).

K-Love has to get out of there, he's just too good. He's not that great defensively, but neither are any of his teammates. His adjusted +/- is solid for this year (one of only two players on that team in the positive this year) so on the right team he'd be a gun. Heck his unadjusted +/- is the best out of all the other regular starters.

And who'd have guessed that Darko would regress this much after he was given another guaranteed contract? I know it's early, but his PER of 2.27 is utter sh*t. Given that metric heavily favours bigs (shooting percentages and rebounds seem to count a lot), to rank that low shows just how awful he is. He's 7 foot and shooting 17% from the field! I can't believe they signed him, I really can't. Even a complete and utter stiff like Jason Collins, someone with NO offensive value whatsoever is sporting a PER 4 times as good as Darko's.

And yes I've noticed Bledsoe, that's why I picked him up in fantasy a few days ago ;-)
 

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Worst thing about Darko is that he's been missing so many easy looks around the basket. On the bright side......at least he's blocking some shots!!!!
 

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Minny lose their fifth straight with the combined margin over those 5 games being 130 points (26 per). On track to win 12 games. 4 of their next 5 are on the road as well so this could be a miserable start for the Wolves (1-11 or 2-10 are easily forseeable).

K-Love has to get out of there, he's just too good. He's not that great defensively, but neither are any of his teammates. His adjusted +/- is solid for this year (one of only two players on that team in the positive this year) so on the right team he'd be a gun. Heck his unadjusted +/- is the best out of all the other regular starters.

And who'd have guessed that Darko would regress this much after he was given another guaranteed contract? I know it's early, but his PER of 2.27 is utter sh*t. Given that metric heavily favours bigs (shooting percentages and rebounds seem to count a lot), to rank that low shows just how awful he is. He's 7 foot and shooting 17% from the field! I can't believe they signed him, I really can't. Even a complete and utter stiff like Jason Collins, someone with NO offensive value whatsoever is sporting a PER 4 times as good as Darko's.

And yes I've noticed Bledsoe, that's why I picked him up in fantasy a few days ago ;-)

Iirc the T-Wolves exercised their option on Love so he'll be there at least until the end of next season.

Imo part of the reason Rambis does sit Love so much (unless there really are issues between the two) is that because he is pretty bad defensively. In saying that, as you said, the T-Wolves are terrible anyways and going to lose plenty of games regardless. So why not give the fans what they want to see (more Love). Also the T-Wolves really shouldn't be doing anything to upset Love (since they made the decision for him to be their cornerstone by trading Big Al). He certainly makes them much better offensively.

Another possible theory. Maybe their already tanking lol.
 
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Woah just checked Love's per 36 mins stats and they are ridiculous.

Per 36 mins; 23 points 15 rebounds lol (albeit his FG% is Jennings-like terrible)

So yeah I withdraw my queries about his defense. FFS Rambis play him. I'm sure McLovin agrees.
 

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Love is bad defensively, but he's let down by all those around him IMO. They made a switch to the starting line-up last game by starting Johnson ahead of Ellington but I think they need to go further and look at benching Darko and maybe bringing Beasley off the bench and starting Brewer. A starting 5 including Brewer and Johnson looks a lot better defensively than Beasley & Ellington. Chris Bosh is a pretty ordinary defensive player. He's not bad against the switch in the P&R but his post defence is only adequate and his help defence is slightly worse. But surrounded by good defensive teammates that can hide his short-comings, he's a valuable player. I see Love being quite similar - all of his other attributes make up for his short-comings if surrounded by the right teammates.

The problem is, and why they can't shake up the line-up to cover for Love - they've signed Darko for four years. Part of the justification was "nobody has ever believed in him (if you don't include the Pistons, Magic, Gizzlies or Knicks), he's our starting centre and new Vlade Divac", with the hope that all the public affection they showed would translate to some sort of on-court production. So now, when he's not being productive at any level, if they bench him what will happen to his "confidence"? He has consistently refused to show any sort of dedication to improving himself when benched / fallen out of the rotation and now he's got another four guaranteed years of money, why would he change?

Love has too much class to publicly complain so he won't ask for a trade, but if he's stuck playing 25 minutes a night for a team on track to win 12 games for much longer, I wouldn't at all be surprised if he asks them privately to explore some options.

This all could have been avoided if they went for a trade involving Jefferson for Haywood / Butler or something and trumped the Mavs offer last year. Haywood ain't great, but he gives you everything you ask of Darko plus they would have got an upgrade on the wings in Butler and maybe could have done this year's draft differently. Instead they sold Al for Kosta Koufas and crap and are stuck going nowhere.
 

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Love is bad defensively, but he's let down by all those around him IMO. They made a switch to the starting line-up last game by starting Johnson ahead of Ellington but I think they need to go further and look at benching Darko and maybe bringing Beasley off the bench and starting Brewer. A starting 5 including Brewer and Johnson looks a lot better defensively than Beasley & Ellington. Chris Bosh is a pretty ordinary defensive player. He's not bad against the switch in the P&R but his post defence is only adequate and his help defence is slightly worse. But surrounded by good defensive teammates that can hide his short-comings, he's a valuable player. I see Love being quite similar - all of his other attributes make up for his short-comings if surrounded by the right teammates.

The problem is, and why they can't shake up the line-up to cover for Love - they've signed Darko for four years. Part of the justification was "nobody has ever believed in him (if you don't include the Pistons, Magic, Gizzlies or Knicks), he's our starting centre and new Vlade Divac", with the hope that all the public affection they showed would translate to some sort of on-court production. So now, when he's not being productive at any level, if they bench him what will happen to his "confidence"? He has consistently refused to show any sort of dedication to improving himself when benched / fallen out of the rotation and now he's got another four guaranteed years of money, why would he change?

Love has too much class to publicly complain so he won't ask for a trade, but if he's stuck playing 25 minutes a night for a team on track to win 12 games for much longer, I wouldn't at all be surprised if he asks them privately to explore some options.

This all could have been avoided if they went for a trade involving Jefferson for Haywood / Butler or something and trumped the Mavs offer last year. Haywood ain't great, but he gives you everything you ask of Darko plus they would have got an upgrade on the wings in Butler and maybe could have done this year's draft differently. Instead they sold Al for Kosta Koufas and crap and are stuck going nowhere.

Problem I see with that is that since the T-Wolves are in a rebuilding situation, would it be wise to be acquiring veteran players? Now in the end they essentially gave away Big Al for nothing (indefensible), but I can understand why they wouldn't make a move like the one above.

The strange thing is, if they'd known all along that they were trading Jefferson, why not take Cousins with the #4 pick? I think a Love-Cousins front court makes sense from a position/skill-set perspective.

Oh yeah, Darko..
 

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Yeah true, and the reverse is probably equally true (why would the rebuilding Wiz take on a vet when they have Blatche & McGee coming through?). It was just one example however of how the Wolves could have used a seemingly attractive trade asset and turned it into some valuable pieces. Butler and/or Haywood could have equally been shipped out for draft picks / expirings etc to a contender as well. I suppose I just don't quite understand the strategy of the Wolves' front office.
 

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Yeah it is baffling. I don't quite understand why they were in such a rush to just dump Jefferson. I'm pretty sure you could have gotten the Utah offer (nothing) at anytime. Jefferson was bound to be better this season (1 year after ACL surgery) so his trade value would no doubt have been higher.
 

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Just checked the T-Wolves roster on hoops hype and I'm guessing that their aim is to keep a low cap figure and have no big contracts on their roster (Beasley is the highest earner at $4.9 mill). Projects to be that way for a while as most of their active players are also under contract for next season as well.

This season their cap is at $45.4 mill and in 2011/2012 it projects to be at 41.7 mill.

The 2012/2013 season may end up being a make-or-break season for them as that's when Love can be a free agent, as well as them having numerous players with team options or a qualifying offer (Beasley, Flynn, Wesley Johnson, Webster, Ellington).

They could potentially have alot of cap space that summer, although as we saw this off-season, cap space doesn't guarantee quality players.
 

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