Neil Henry named new Cowboys coach

[Buckshot]

If The Raider's fans want to be angry with anyone then maybe they should look at their own board.

Does anyone seriously believe that they didn't know there was an escape clause in the contract ?

Was it written in invisible ink ?

Does no one on the board know how to read ?

Don't they have lawyers in Canberra to help read these contracts in case there are loop holes in them ?

Don't get upset if Neil Henry now puts into place a clause in the contract that the Raiders board excepted when they signed him .

 

[VictorTheViking]

So...... what are you trying to say? :lol:


seriously shorty i wouldnt get worked up about any of this trash talking, raiders fans are upset and are throwing a tanty, theyll have a warm glass of milk (canberra milk of course), go to bed and be chirpy and happy again tomorrow.

Not far wrong there, a lot of us are happy that we will (when he officially takes over) have a coach with passion and pride in the club.

 

[Big Pete]

I know it's tough to lose a coach under these circumstances but geez some of you Raiders fans are drastic. Lets put it into perspective shall we, at the start of the season you couldn't find a Raiders fan with a bad word to say about Henry and now that he's signed you have Canberra fans coming left, right and centre sprouting ludicrous amounts of bull s**t to please their own self esteem. IMO you're nothing more than one of those pathetic losers you see on MSN who decide to humiliate the girl of their dreams because she wouldn't go to the formal with them.

 

[VictorTheViking]

I know it's tough to lose a coach under these circumstances but geez some of you Raiders fans are drastic. Lets put it into perspective shall we, at the start of the season you couldn't find a Raiders fan with a bad word to say about Henry and now that he's signed you have Canberra fans coming left, right and centre sprouting ludicrous amounts of bull s**t to please their own self esteem. IMO you're nothing more than one of those pathetic losers you see on MSN who decide to humiliate the girl of their dreams because she wouldn't go to the formal with them.

As usual someone fails to see the bigger picture before they flap their gums...

I daresay pete, that if Henry had not have lied to the canberra public about his intentions (he distinctly stated on numerous occaisions to fans, media, and players that he would be seeing out his contract) the fans would be different, I for one know that if he had said he wanted out of his contract to begin with instead of bullsh*tting everyone, that my feelings towards him at present would be a lot different.

He'd still be garnering the respect he was getting from canberra fans at the beginning of the year if he'd told the truth from the beginning.

As for comparing us to pathetic losers on msn....aren't you still in school?

 

[Big Pete]

As usual someone fails to see the bigger picture before they flap their gums...

I daresay pete, that if Henry had not have lied to the canberra public about his intentions (he distinctly stated on numerous occaisions to fans, media, and players that he would be seeing out his contract) the fans would be different, I for one know that if he had said he wanted out of his contract to begin with instead of bullsh*tting everyone, that my feelings towards him at present would be a lot different.

He'd still be garnering the respect he was getting from canberra fans at the beginning of the year if he'd told the truth from the beginning.

As for comparing us to pathetic losers on msn....aren't you still in school?

Let me start by using a quote to argue your last statement. "As usual someone fails to see the bigger picture before they flap their gums...". In saying, you missed my point completely and instead interpreted as a big generalisation on those who use MSN. No I'm not labelling those who use MSN as losers, it was merely apart of an example I was using, one that I'm noticing right now as I stare into that window however I digress.

Yes I agree whole heartidly what Henry did was essentially wrong however the way some of your fellow supporters are acting range from hilarious to down right ludicrous. I know League fans are passionate however the ability to go to such extremes really isn't an attractive look for your club now is it? To me personally it's just another fine example of Canberra fans appearing vulnerable amongst another tough season.

The other point I'm making is geez some of your fans are quick to change their tune on certain people. It's hard to take your lot seriously considering how highly Henry was rated as a coach (and not a human being) just to see the majority of your fans turn their back on him and question his ability while placing a coach with limited experience infront of him and having the ability to say that he is without doubt better than Henry. Please don't make me laugh.

I've also seen it being said that Canberra unearthed Henry as a coach. Please, Henry was the assistant Queensland coach before he travelled south to join your club. Henry was there for the taking and to give credit where credit is due Canberra were smart enough to sign him. So to suggest Henry had next to no ability before joining Canberra is beyong hilarious.

Best of luck with Don Furner.

 

[Raider_69]

No one that i know has changed their opinion on his as a coach, he is top class. And i dont recall anyone suggesting he is anything other then a very good coach. And we thought given the stuff he was saying publically, he was an honest bloke with a very strong commitment to this club... thats the impression he gave us, thats the type of bloke he claimed to be.

Turns out he is nothing of the sort, fantastic coach, lying sh*tbag of a bloke. Had he come out weeks ago and said the idea of the cowboys job did intice him and he'd have to look into his options and do whats best for him, then id be fine with his decision... his decision is not what annoys me, its his lack of commitment to my club, his lack of a spine to be up front and honest with his employer and its fans, and most of all his lack of respect for the Raiders club to treat us like this.

He is a parasite. And as good a coach as i think he is, and think he'll become, im thankful he is gone. The Canberra Raiders and their fans deserve better then be to treated as a steping stone by a prick this. And to have it done in the most disloyal, unappreciative manner as it was. We gave that prick a start, coaches came and went and no one else gave him a go to prove himself. We did and we get this treatment in return?

Ill be glad to have Dave incharge because at least he is a bloke who is committed 100% to this club. Besides, every raider player from that era has turned out to be a fairly good coach... there is no reason to suggest Dave wont be the same.

 

[VictorTheViking]

I think the reason people turned their back on him is because he is now deemed "untrustworthy" as a person, which for some makes him untrustworthy as a coach, we all know elliott tried to poach a few players while he was in his last season, whats to say henry isnt going to do the same?

No point in arguing this any further as it could go on for days, but really pete, how the f**k does this make fans look vulnerable amongst a tough season, thats just more of the same copybook media bs that we cop at the start of every season....lmfao its only just round 4.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

atleast furner has the green in his veins and won't ask for something like a get out clause ... having someone with so much passion for the club might just rub off onto the players. but then again i have no idea on his coaching skill but he might be able to do the job

 

[Big Pete]

No point in arguing this any further as it could go on for days, but really pete, how the f**k does this make fans look vulnerable amongst a tough season, thats just more of the same copybook media bs that we cop at the start of every season....lmfao its only just round 4.

Which is exactly my point, it's only Round 4 yet a group of Canberra fans remain vocal claiming they've been unfairly screwed and continually blame their clubs own shortcomings before opening up to common sense.

To be fair I have been unusually critical of Canberra through out this thread. It's hard not to discriminate in a thread like this however I mean no harm to those who are able to justify what has been said...

His name is Dave? Geez 4 hours of sleep is definatly a killer.

 

[azza]

The thing that worries me about Furner is not his passion for the Raiders. It is the fact he is going to be a very young first grade (unproven) coach who is taking the helm at a club that is rebuilding with some promising juniors looking for guidance on their development as players, and with fans hungry for success after so many years in the wilderness.

That's a lot of pressure to be putting on someone of Furner's experience. If the club doesn't give him the appropriate support, it may end up badly. I think this is sort of what happened to Nathan Brown at the Dragons.

 

[VictorTheViking]

Which is exactly my point, it's only Round 4 yet a group of Canberra fans remain vocal claiming they've been unfairly screwed and continually blame their clubs own shortcomings before opening up to common sense.

To be fair I have been unusually critical of Canberra through out this thread. It's hard not to discriminate in a thread like this however I mean no harm to those who are able to justify what has been said...

His name is Dave? Geez 4 hours of sleep is definatly a killer.

Errr yeah thatd be correct in a sense given the way the situation has gone down, but what the f**k has it got to do with shortcomings this season??? The seasons barely started, the only real short comings we've had are season ending injuries to some key players, honestly, ive got nfi what your on about there....lol

 

[Raider Azz]

The thing that worries me about Furner is not his passion for the Raiders. It is the fact he is going to be a very young first grade (unproven) coach who is taking the helm at a club that is rebuilding with some promising juniors looking for guidance on their development as players, and with fans hungry for success after so many years in the wilderness.

That's a lot of pressure to be putting on someone of Furner's experience. If the club doesn't give him the appropriate support, it may end up badly. I think this is sort of what happened to Nathan Brown at the Dragons.

unfair comparison IMO. brown was thrust straight into the deep end whereas furner has had a couple of years in the lower grades and as an assistant to learn his trade.

 

[Raider_69]

atleast furner has the green in his veins and won't ask for something like a get out clause ... having someone with so much passion for the club might just rub off onto the players. but then again i have no idea on his coaching skill but he might be able to do the job

plenty of people who have had a fair bit to do with him seem to think he's up to it, including Henry, Elliott, Badge, Daley, Mal and Stuart

granted they are all close friends of his and they are hardly going to say he's not up to it pubically, but all have been very vocal in supporting Daves abilities as a coach

It should be noted that as our PL coach in 2005, Dave coached 15 of our top 25 to the quarter finals. They played an extremely expansive game and were very exciting to watch.

 

[The Informer]

unfair comparison IMO. brown was thrust straight into the deep end whereas furner has had a couple of years in the lower grades and as an assistant to learn his trade.

Incorrect. Brown was an assistant for a yr prior to his appointment.

The comparison is spot on. Some can make the transition quickly (and are successful), on the back of a short period as an assistant, Stuart and Fittler obvious examples. But they are rare, few and far between. Brown wasn't ready, nor was Taylor.

Time will tell with Furner. He's up against it with a club that doesn't spend their full cap nor attract major buys. Good luck to him.

 

[Raider Azz]

Incorrect. Brown was an assistant for a yr prior to his appointment.

The comparison is spot on. Some can make the transition quickly (and are successful), on the back of a short period as an assistant, Stuart and Fittler obvious examples. But they are rare, few and far between. Brown wasn't ready, nor was Taylor.

Time will tell with Furner. He's up against it with a club that doesn't spend their full cap nor attract major buys. Good luck to him.

wow. for a whole YEAR. furner has been learning his trade for 4 years. add to that, brown was basically coaching guys he had played alongside with just 2 years beforehand. it's a lot harder to command respect from people who were your equal not too long ago. so no, the comparisons are not spot on IMO.

 

[azza]

unfair comparison IMO. brown was thrust straight into the deep end whereas furner has had a couple of years in the lower grades and as an assistant to learn his trade.

I don't think it's unfair at all. I'm not saying Furner will crash and burn like Brown did but the pressures that were there on Brown will be there on Furner and there is not a significant difference in the experience both had when they started coaching at NRL level... I just hope Furner is given the support he needs, maybe even a mentor / coaching director the way Ricky Stuart had Gould at the Roosters, at least for his first year.