New NSW Second division plan "Platinum League"

[reanimate]

central coast bears should be allowed into the nrl, but the bears should keep their north sydney junior area. all the home games should be at gosford, except for 1 game each year on heritage round, which should be at north sydney oval. the bears keeping that connection to the north sydney area would help them get sponsorships from the area.

And then Manly is left to die a slow death and put a financial weight on the NRL. The CC Bears can't work while Manly exists, unless the NRL want to invite another club having permanent financial problems.

"f**k Manly, that sounds great!" - remove all the anti-Manly emotion surrounding the situation and it's pretty clear that it's a terrible idea. It's inviting an existing NRL club to die a slow, inevitable death, and the NRL has made it clear they don't want to lose any of the existing clubs.

 

[DiegoNT]

While we don't know all the details, i think the most important thing about this proposal is the number of teams- 11. It isn't desirable for any new league to have an odd number of teams, it creates problems with scheduling and makes a bye needed. Also the make-up of the districts seemingly aren't the greatest, North shore and central coast together after the northern Eagles disaster? Sutherland, st george and bankstown together? Would it not of made sense to keep these districts separate and just have 14-16 teams? To me it seems that there was a deliberate attempt to make it 11 teams. This will mean it lines-up with the 11 nsw clubs in the NRL. It helps that the majority of the platinum districts already line-up with nrl clubs.
What we seeing may be a major reform in junior development. Currently it's at the mercy of the nrl clubs. Some prioritize development over others, some can't afford to invest in juniors meaning theirs no chance of expanding their programs and in some cases they're cutting back. Some areas are at the mercy of deals with nrl clubs as feeder clubs, these deals are usually short term and have a history of ending abruptly, while other areas are completely ignored. Development in the Hunter region is tied into the sucess of the Knights, and there's no consistency, but if the nrl controlled the development in all areas of new south Wales it means their future is secure.
There will be early problems, some clubs will lose some of their development areas, others will gain areas, some uneasy alliances will need to be made (north shore and central coast for example) and initially the clubs will feel plastic, but in the long term this may turn out to be a great development for the nrl in new south Wales.
Any plan that keeps young players in the bush and stops the drain of young players moving to sydney because they think that's the only way to chase their nrl dream is great for bush football.
I can understand why someone like Gus Gould would hate this idea. Penrith are one of of the clubs who have invested heavily in junior development and were hoping that investment would give them a competive edge, and this idea, that means no area will be neglected and all areas will get the help means they lose that competitive edge, while clubs that are have neglected their junior bases will basically be getting a free kick from the nrl.

 

[Perth Red]

The 11 teams doesn't include possible Melbourne, Perth, Fiji or NZ teams. Likely it will be a 12 or 14 team comp eventually.

 

[DiegoNT]

The 11 teams doesn't include possible Melbourne, Perth, Fiji or NZ teams. Likely it will be a 12 or 14 team comp eventually.

But those teams are from outside nsw
It'll be 11 second tier nsw clubs for the 11 nrl nsw clubs

 

[siv]

11 teams means no Melbourne or Warriors feeder arrangement

Tryingbto apply SL rationalidation to Tier 2 after it failed in.FG will also fail in RG

QLD Cup mode of operation doesnt fit NSW never will

Newtown Wenty Mt Pritchard Wyong Windsor Cabramatta are not clubs that represent a junior district

They a just strong A grade clubs with no junior structure at NSWRL level

 

[applesauce]

So does this mean no relocation of NSW NRL teams? What would happen to the 11 regions if say the Tigers go to Perth?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

They'd still have a Perth side. They'd just play at broken hill...cause...you know...it's like west.

 

[DiegoNT]

So does this mean no relocation of NSW NRL teams? What would happen to the 11 regions if say the Tigers go to Perth?

I think the nrl has said on many occasions that they aren't looking to move or cut any of the sydney clubs, and ensuring current clubs are as strong as they can be is one of their priorities

 

[Lockyer4President!]

But those teams are from outside nsw
It'll be 11 second tier nsw clubs for the 11 nrl nsw clubs

Missing the point.
What matters is that there will be 28 teams spread over the NSW Cup/QLD Cup comps acting as a feeder/development teams to the 16 NRL teams.

Some alignments will be obvious; like the Cowboys using Cairns, Townsville, Mackay and the Warriors using (safe guessing) Auckland and Wellington.
Others may not be so obvious, like the Storm using the SC or how Canberra and Manly previously used Souths-Logan and the SC.

It'll be up to each club to decide where their best match is. ie: Some Sydney NRL teams might decide to use feeder clubs in QLD/NZ/Fiji, leaving the option for other Sydney teams to align with two Sydney feeder clubs.

The main points is that it will make the game stronger, it'll make it easier to expand the NRL in future and it'll mean more areas & players get a direct pathway to the NRL, which I'm sure was the whole point of hiring Richardson to plan this out.

 

[DiegoNT]

Missing the point.
What matters is that there will be 28 teams spread over the NSW Cup/QLD Cup comps acting as a feeder/development teams to the 16 NRL teams.

Some alignments will be obvious; like the Cowboys using Cairns, Townsville, Mackay and the Warriors using (safe guessing) Auckland and Wellington.
Others may not be so obvious, like the Storm using the SC or how Canberra and Manly previously used Souths-Logan and the SC.

It'll be up to each club to decide where their best match is. ie: Some Sydney NRL teams might decide to use feeder clubs in QLD/NZ/Fiji, leaving the option for other Sydney teams to align with two Sydney feeder clubs.

The main points is that it will make the game stronger, it'll make it easier to expand the NRL in future and it'll mean more areas & players get a direct pathway to the NRL, which I'm sure was the whole point of hiring Richardson to plan this out.

You don't think Queensland will eventually get the platinum club treatment?
As Queensland has a bigger area with a smaller population each of the Queensland clubs (and storm) will be given 2 districts?
Brisbane spit into 4 for the 2 Brisbane nrl teams.
Northern pride and Blackhawks for the Cowboys
Central Queensland and western corridor for the storm
Ipswich and tweed/sth Queensland for the Titans
PNG team can apply like the fijian and new Zealand teams for the new nsw cup

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Yep. Once they've f**ked up NSW they'll probably have a good crack at f**king up Queensland. Maybe Tasmania was a mini trial run.

 

[alien]

And then Manly is left to die a slow death and put a financial weight on the NRL. The CC Bears can't work while Manly exists, unless the NRL want to invite another club having permanent financial problems.

"f**k Manly, that sounds great!" - remove all the anti-Manly emotion surrounding the situation and it's pretty clear that it's a terrible idea. It's inviting an existing NRL club to die a slow, inevitable death, and the NRL has made it clear they don't want to lose any of the existing clubs.

so this is really about you wanting manly to have the bears area. if manly can't survive with their area only, then they should relocate or fold

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

so this is really about you wanting manly to have the bears area. if manly can't survive with their area only, then they should relocate or fold

Manly want to expand their activities into a unattended areas and you say no??

Why should they restrict themselves to that little enclave? Most would be happy that they have some abitious ideas....

 

[alien]

Manly want to expand their activities into a unattended areas and you say no??

Why should they restrict themselves to that little enclave? Most would be happy that they have some abitious ideas....

Usually I would agree, but after the Northern Eagles folded, the Bears should have been allowed to come back into the NRL as Central Coast Bears, but keeping their link to the North Sydney area. Reanimate wants people convinced that Manly can't survive if that happens, but Manly don't have the North Sydney area now anyway, and it wasn't theirs to begin with. Why should the Bears have to make a sacrifice for Manly? If Manly can't survive in their area, then they should relocate or leave the NRL.

 

[siv]

You will find that some Norths junior clubs play the Manly district comp already

And there is a sikilar arrangement occuring between Canterbury and St George and Balmain

 

[alien]

You will find that some Norths junior clubs play the Manly district comp already

And there is a sikilar arrangement occuring between Canterbury and St George and Balmain

those would be combined comps, so i guess it would be a joint norths-manly comp

group 6 and the western suburbs district used to be combined too

 

[reanimate]

so this is really about you wanting manly to have the bears area. if manly can't survive with their area only, then they should relocate or fold

Manly want to expand their activities into a unattended areas and you say no??

Why should they restrict themselves to that little enclave? Most would be happy that they have some abitious ideas....

As others have said, no first grade side controls the North Shore anymore, it has been sitting there stuck in an awkward limbo since the Northern Eagles dissolved. The CC Bears bid hasn't been successful, and the longer an NRL side can't properly engage the North Shore, the more damage it does to the area.

Usually I would agree, but after the Northern Eagles folded, the Bears should have been allowed to come back into the NRL as Central Coast Bears, but keeping their link to the North Sydney area. Reanimate wants people convinced that Manly can't survive if that happens, but Manly don't have the North Sydney area now anyway, and it wasn't theirs to begin with. Why should the Bears have to make a sacrifice for Manly? If Manly can't survive in their area, then they should relocate or leave the NRL.

Maybe that's what should have happened in an ideal world, but it didn't, and another team trying to take more of the Sydney pie will only cause problems for the NRL in the future- the city can only support so many teams, and it makes no sense for a future NRL comp (in ~30 years time) to have Manly limited to the Northern Beaches, slowly going broke, the CC Bears holding the North Shore and spending most of their time on the CC, while areas like Perth and Wellington don't have teams.

 

[siv]

Interesting to see how much of the $100 mil is diverted here

 

[thorson1987]

those would be combined comps, so i guess it would be a joint norths-manly comp

group 6 and the western suburbs district used to be combined too

lol

and that worked out well didn't it.

 

[alien]

As others have said, no first grade side controls the North Shore anymore, it has been sitting there stuck in an awkward limbo since the Northern Eagles dissolved. The CC Bears bid hasn't been successful, and the longer an NRL side can't properly engage the North Shore, the more damage it does to the area.

well norths are in the nsw cup, and they are a feeder team for souths, so i guess north sydney is rabbitohs territory now!

manly might have to relocate to the sunshine coast in the future!