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New stadium at Campbelltown

westie

Bench
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I've watched them play a few finals. Not sure if that's what you mean though. Relevance to your refusal to 100% support our club?
 

madunit

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I 100% support the club.

I 100% don't support your idea of telling Balmain to practically f**k off and that they don't matter, all the while moving the JV to Campbelltown under the cloak of "Unity"

Unity which only provides an advantage for one side of the JV.
 

gronkathon

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Simple fact is that Liverpool would be the ideal place to locate a 40k stadium and, if need be, relocate the majority of home Wests Tigers game.

Campbelltown is quite simply too isolated to warrant it's own high level stadium. It is about the same distance for someone to travel from Penrith to Leichhardt as it is from Penrith to Campbelltown.

The McArthur should continue being a junior nursery and Liverpool is not too far that it would be disconnected from the City areas nor from the greater Macarthur area.

If we are going to be serious than Liverpool is the best balance and holds the highest likelihood of success.
 

gallagher

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Simple fact is that Liverpool would be the ideal place to locate a 40k stadium and, if need be, relocate the majority of home Wests Tigers game.

Campbelltown is quite simply too isolated to warrant it's own high level stadium. It is about the same distance for someone to travel from Penrith to Leichhardt as it is from Penrith to Campbelltown.

The McArthur should continue being a junior nursery and Liverpool is not too far that it would be disconnected from the City areas nor from the greater Macarthur area.

If we are going to be serious than Liverpool is the best balance and holds the highest likelihood of success.


Liverpool would be a better option but the fact is that the proposal is for a stadium in Campbelltown. You cant look a gift horse in the mouth.
 
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gallagher

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It's always people from the Wests side of things that bring up playing at one stadium full-time, which leads to playing out of Campbelltown full-time, which leads to bleats about ignoring the juniors out at Campbelltown and so on. All the while preaching "unity" and "one club, not two sides". One club all right....what they want is Wests Magpies to be readmitted in its own right, but are too chicken sh*t to say it and operate under the guise of "moving forward in the best interests of the JV as its own entity", or the latest, "what's best for RL in south-west Sydney".

Only because there is a proposal for a new stadium in Campbelltown. If LO had far superior facilities than CS and would have no qualms about playing all games there.Before this was on the cards I was all for playing all our games at a suitable stadium like the SFS or Parra.

I've never read or heard of a former Wests magpies fan threaten to no longer support the club on the basis of venue. Certainly not me anyway so dont assume we are all stuck in the past with you.
 

westie

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Liverpool would be a better option but the fact is that the proposal is for a stadium in Campbelltown. You cant look a gift horse in the mouth.

I've made mention of this as being the best option before due to a relatively central location and good transport links. Oasis was a massive disaster. We should be sharing that stadium with the Dogs, but obviously it was not to be. Like you guys say though, it's still a very good alternative we're presented with and we should be pushing for something like regardless of the world cup bid.
 

blackandwhite

Juniors
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The proposal is for a stadium in Campbelltown so someone must have worked out that's where the people are.

The Wests Tigers cubs (16 - 17 year olds) was this year made up of 16 from Campbelltown and 6 from Balmain.

The Wests Tigers should be based at Campbelltown that's where the players come from and that's where the people are not Concord.

Most times the under 20's aren't allowed to train on Concord oval they have to go to the public park across the road (but that's another story)

Always play in black and gold and be called the Wests Tigers doesn't matter and of course play at both grounds...but to increase membership then the whole joint needs to be based at Campbelltown in the long run.
 

Tiger Hawk

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Only because there is a proposal for a new stadium in Campbelltown. If LO had far superior facilities than CS and would have no qualms about playing all games there.Before this was on the cards I was all for playing all our games at a suitable stadium like the SFS or Parra.

I've never read or heard of a former Wests magpies fan threaten to no longer support the club on the basis of venue. Certainly not me anyway so dont assume we are all stuck in the past with you.
Speaking of assumptions there chump, kindly point how I'm "stuck in the past". I've never talked about cutting one half of the JV out completely. I've never threatened to stop supporting the team following a permanent shift out west.

And do you know why you've "never read or heard of a former wests magpies fan threaten to no longer support the club on the basis of venue"? Because, as I said originally, it's wests magpies fans that are advocating a permanent shift west so why would they make those threats? I can't recall the last time I read a Balmain fan argue that all games should be played at LO.

f**k off all you old magpies fans, we're the Wests Tigers, a JV that was formed in the long-term best interests of both Balmain and Western Suburbs. We're trying to appease two sides here and nothing is ever good enough for one side. The club is performing better than a lot of other Sydney clubs yet you still complain. FMD, go and support soccer full-time. Go and get an A-League team out in Campbelltown, FFS call it Wests Magpies for all I care, and f**k off for good.
 

hybrid_tiger

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We currently play home games in Balmain, Campbelltown, Moore Park and now you want to play out of Liverpool? FFS. Soon we will have played a home match in every geographical area in Sydney. Oasis was a disaster and nobody is going to build a stadium in Liverpool.

IMO, Campbelltown is an absolute sh*thole. However, if they were to build a new stadium there (like the 40,000 suggested for the WC) I would be happy playing the majority of games there. I will still like to see at least three games at Leichhardt though.
 

gronkathon

First Grade
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I would prefer not to play out of Liverpool however it is more viable for a WC stadium than Campbelltown in respect to infrastructure, proximity and actual football suppor base.

IMO Campbelltown is really the last outpost of urban sprawl. It has a small and fault ridden rail infrastructure and lacks the room to expand this

If the government had a clue the current area of Green Valley would have been developed as a sporting stadium.
 

RoMo

Juniors
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Lets be honest the name Wests is worth f**k all
The colours of wests are worth f**k all
The magpie itself is worth f**k all
From a brainding/marketing standpoint the dominant partner in the JV is the Balmain side. The Balmain side bring black and orange to the table. The Balmain side bring the tiger to the table. The Balmain side bring 11 premierships to the table.

All wests bring is this alleged junior nursery that gives us the likes of junior burger whilst hayne and co f**k off to parra or melbourne.

As for building a flash new stadium in the 3rd world. The derros, housos, junkies that call campbelltown home would rape and strip the ground within a week to fund their smack and winnie reds habit.

Wake up
 

N.C.

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I bet you'd see it differently if there was a proposal to move all games to leichhardt.

Wests is basically dead. Playing in a different region isn't going to make a difference.

You preach about becoming one club but your only idea on doing this is to completely alienate the Balmain side of the merger and fully accommodate the Wests side.

You're putting forward a strong argument for us to follow the one side, Wests Magpies.
What rubbish. You can accommodate both sides of the merger regardless of where you play. That's been pretty clearly established over the last couple of years, with up to four home grounds per season... and as many outside of our traditional home bases as there have been within them.

The issue is not where you play - it's where you call home, where you train, where you have a presence.

The west versus the inner-west. One of the city's biggest growth markets for affordable housing versus one of the city's most unaffordable housing markets. Now, this wont have any great impact on your supporter base, but you can bet it will play a major role in junior development and involvement in the club over the coming years. We want to attract families to the club whose kids will aspire to great heights, and one day play in the same colours as their local heroes... Whereas at the moment all we are is just another employer of professional rugby league players - another 'franchise' without a soul.

The club's relationship with the Balmain area will still need to be nurtured but not for the same reasons. Maintaining a presence in the area by playing a minimum of four games a year at Leichhardt Oval is a must. But the reality is that area is populated more by young professionals than young home-makers with kids who might one day play rugby league. Rather than pretend it's not we should embrace this... We can (mostly) take our players from the west, and our money from the inner-west. Leichhardt Oval should be seen as a 'boutique' stadium in as real a sense as possible - and it should be upgraded to appeal more specifically to the suits and casual pant types of inner-suburban Sydney. This would perfectly compliment a purpose built stadium in Campbelltown, out of which the rest of our home games should be played, and which we should align as closely as possible with our regular training facility.

Both the Balmain and Western Suburbs clubs can better maintain their relevance to rugby league and the NRL by working to their strengths, and clearly defining their roles in the joint venture. If FIFA wants a stadium in Campbelltown, there's plenty in it for us all, and we should think very carefully before we write it off as "the death of Balmain"...
 

N.C.

Juniors
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Lets be honest the name Wests is worth f**k all
The colours of wests are worth f**k all
The magpie itself is worth f**k all
From a brainding/marketing standpoint the dominant partner in the JV is the Balmain side. The Balmain side bring black and orange to the table. The Balmain side bring the tiger to the table. The Balmain side bring 11 premierships to the table.

All wests bring is this alleged junior nursery that gives us the likes of junior burger whilst hayne and co f**k off to parra or melbourne.

As for building a flash new stadium in the 3rd world. The derros, housos, junkies that call campbelltown home would rape and strip the ground within a week to fund their smack and winnie reds habit.

Wake up
You, sir, are a first grade f**kwit. You are not even deserving of pity. Next time, try to switch your brain on before you start to type. If you can.
 

innsaneink

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Speaking of assumptions there chump, kindly point how I'm "stuck in the past". I've never talked about cutting one half of the JV out completely. I've never threatened to stop supporting the team following a permanent shift out west.

And do you know why you've "never read or heard of a former wests magpies fan threaten to no longer support the club on the basis of venue"? Because, as I said originally, it's wests magpies fans that are advocating a permanent shift west so why would they make those threats? I can't recall the last time I read a Balmain fan argue that all games should be played at LO.

f**k off all you old magpies fans, we're the Wests Tigers, a JV that was formed in the long-term best interests of both Balmain and Western Suburbs. We're trying to appease two sides here and nothing is ever good enough for one side. The club is performing better than a lot of other Sydney clubs yet you still complain. FMD, go and support soccer full-time. Go and get an A-League team out in Campbelltown, FFS call it Wests Magpies for all I care, and f**k off for good.

Theres a very good reason for that.
I wonder if you can work it out by yourself.
 

blackandwhite

Juniors
Messages
246
What rubbish. You can accommodate both sides of the merger regardless of where you play. That's been pretty clearly established over the last couple of years, with up to four home grounds per season... and as many outside of our traditional home bases as there have been within them.

The issue is not where you play - it's where you call home, where you train, where you have a presence.

The west versus the inner-west. One of the city's biggest growth markets for affordable housing versus one of the city's most unaffordable housing markets. Now, this wont have any great impact on your supporter base, but you can bet it will play a major role in junior development and involvement in the club over the coming years. We want to attract families to the club whose kids will aspire to great heights, and one day play in the same colours as their local heroes... Whereas at the moment all we are is just another employer of professional rugby league players - another 'franchise' without a soul.

The club's relationship with the Balmain area will still need to be nurtured but not for the same reasons. Maintaining a presence in the area by playing a minimum of four games a year at Leichhardt Oval is a must. But the reality is that area is populated more by young professionals than young home-makers with kids who might one day play rugby league. Rather than pretend it's not we should embrace this... We can (mostly) take our players from the west, and our money from the inner-west. Leichhardt Oval should be seen as a 'boutique' stadium in as real a sense as possible - and it should be upgraded to appeal more specifically to the suits and casual pant types of inner-suburban Sydney. This would perfectly compliment a purpose built stadium in Campbelltown, out of which the rest of our home games should be played, and which we should align as closely as possible with our regular training facility.

Both the Balmain and Western Suburbs clubs can better maintain their relevance to rugby league and the NRL by working to their strengths, and clearly defining their roles in the joint venture. If FIFA wants a stadium in Campbelltown, there's plenty in it for us all, and we should think very carefully before we write it off as "the death of Balmain"...


That's what I was trying to say...but you said it a lot better than me.......Now How do we make that happen ?
 

Tiger Hawk

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Theres a very good reason for that.
I wonder if you can work it out by yourself.
Go on then, tell me why no old Balmain fans have made such claims.....I'm sure you speak for them all.

Have you worked out how to get job by yourself yet? Or still queuing up for the dole?
 

gallagher

Juniors
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f**k off all you old magpies fans, we're the Wests Tigers, a JV that was formed in the long-term best interests of both Balmain and Western Suburbs. We're trying to appease two sides here and nothing is ever good enough for one side. The club is performing better than a lot of other Sydney clubs yet you still complain. FMD, go and support soccer full-time. Go and get an A-League team out in Campbelltown, FFS call it Wests Magpies for all I care, and f**k off for good.

Nice try attempting to prove your a wests tigers fan when its clear that your Balmain through and through.

Wests tigers fans want whats best for this club, not doing whats best for Balmian and Wests.

Your whole post is Wests this and Balmain that. Your stuck in '99 and you know it.
 

alien

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calm down people. there is a good chance we wont even get the worldcup in australia in 2018 and 2022
 
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