New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Te Kaha]

yea
gutterfax

Been here a day and a half... tui add right there.

I don't believe in ignoring twats , take them head on I say

Just take me of ignore, stop being a coward and using a fluffer account.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

RL 'owning' the pacific wouldn't make NRL clubs in the PI's or in NZ more, or less, feasible, and would have little to no impact on RU's commercial prospects internationally.

I'm not trying to have a go at anybody, but in the grand scheme of things the Oceania region is largely a backwater in international terms in this regard. If anything RL taking over would make it cheaper for RU, as RL and the NRL would be the one that takes on the financial burden of developing all the talent in the PI's, which they could then simply poach.

Do you really think WR gives two shits if tiny nations in the PI's turn to RL, when they've got money to print in Europe, RSA, etc, and have really strong growth in a bunch of other major markets in Asia and South America?

This guy's only concern is the impact it might have on RU in NZ, and frankly, from the perspective of RU who really cares. There're multiple teams, from multiple larger nations, all lined up to take the All Blacks spot as soon as they fall down the international rankings, and if anything WR would see it as a benefit if a bigger nation was the dominant side in RU.

Playing talent my friend is the key issue and RL taking control of that and it being diverted away from Union is a big deal

 

[Gobsmacked]

I don't believe in ignoring twats , take them head on I say

He'll go forever, has nothing else to do and it works in his favour. He hate this thread and wants to derail it. He has before had it shut down from me doing the same thing.
Don't fall for it.
Just stick to the topic of Rugby unions demise if you really want him.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

What your latest fan made video omits is that a large number of PI players (that play for the island test teams) play in the NH leagues or Japan, so just discussing Super squads salary caps is completely redundant.

He's also conflating NZ and Oz born PIs with those on the islands in some parts of the video and then separating them in other parts to suit his purposes.

There's very little facts and the ones that are there are often cherry picked anyway. He doesn't state how many PI born and bred players are in either rugby or the NRL, this is actually the most important figure if he's making grandiose claims that league is taking over the islands.

He also made the odd claim that top tier international rugby isn't very competitive when it's actually the most competitive it's been in years. But, the PI teams in rugby are just too small, even wth the large number of NZers and Australians who play for them, to be competitive with the big teams all the time. As much as the video maker wants to romanticise it the best PI descent players in rugby aren't going to wholesale leave NZ or even the Wallabies, they don't chose the ABs because they get paid more, they chose the ABs because they're NZers wanting to play for the NZ.

Well firstly, the NRL giving the next generation of PI talent an opportunity to stay closer to home, get paid one of the best level salaries in world rugby (either code) and play in the best rugby (either code) competition in the world is very appealing. There is little doubt that the island nations produce some of the best Rugby athletes and if they start choosing RL over RU in numbers it is a bid deal.

Re: competitiveness of international RU, the Wallabies fell off a couple of decades ago and now the All Blacks are starting to show signs that they aren't what they used to be, that is a big factor that has contributed to the perception that the game has suddenly got more competitive

 

[Te Kaha]

Playing talent my friend is the key issue and RL taking control of that and it being diverted away from Union is a big deal

And that's the true reason for the thread, fighting an imaginary enemy, it has nothing to do with helping League in NZ.

 

[Te Kaha]

He'll go forever, has nothing else to do and it works in his favour. He hate this thread and wants to derail it. He has before had it shut down from me doing the same thing.
Don't fall for it.
Just stick to the topic of Rugby unions demise if you really want him.

Is it some sort of therapy now? talking to yourself about your meltdowns? shows some personal growth I spose.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Again showing a fan site? Why not an ACTUAL news site? And guess what, just like this thread an Australian who got things wrong. He didn't notice where those players were born and raised, he didn't mention clubs in those countries and even even got the Salary Cap for Super Rugby wrong by claiming it is about $10million. That's only for Australia.

Why can you guys only show fan sites as "evidence"? It's either a giant conspiracy to hide what's happening, or using Occam's razor, you guys are just wrong.

All I said was that this guy gets it and can see the writing on the wall. Nothing more, your paranoia has taken it to a different place

 

[titoelcolombiano]

And that's the true reason for the thread, fighting an imaginary enemy, it has nothing to do with helping League in NZ.

RU is not an imaginary enemy at all. Very much a real one. Although I do concede that RL has been just as much it's own worst enemy at times.

 

[Wb1234]

It really is and he really is! But honestly ignore works a treat

It does

the day pippen mentioned he could be blocked was a joyous one

this thread became way more readable

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Predominantly from Auckland. And it's not cherry picking, Have another listen to the podcast. The reason he gave, and it was the ONLY reason he gave, that the game was in your words "growing and thriving in NZ" was that there were no Warriors in the Kiwis World Cup squad.



I don't care what you do, but firstly I have provided stats, player numbers club numbers, he provided "feelings" and secondly he is not a "sports reporter" he is a fan running a fan site. He doesn't make a living reporting on sports, he runs it from a garage with a mate, and he doesn't have media accreditation, even this site haas media accreditation.
You can believe what the hell you want, just know that believing in someone's "feelings" rather than actual empirical evidence, doesn't make you very smart.

Your stats and player numbers were also cherry picked against a backdrop of Covid. Sure, RL struggled the last couple of years whilst the community game was shut down, the Warriors had to move to another country and play no home games, that's normal.

It will be fun watching you get salty as the game roars back to life and goes from strength to strength.

 

[Wb1234]

Playing talent my friend is the key issue and RL taking control of that and it being diverted away from Union is a big deal

Playing talent
Develop the int rugby league into a major money spinner
Spite

anyone of those would do

 

[Wb1234]

Your stats and player numbers were also cherry picked against a backdrop of Covid. Sure, RL struggled the last couple of years whilst the community game was shut down, the Warriors had to move to another country and play no home games, that's normal.

It will be fun watching you get salty as the game roars back to life and goes from strength to strength.

Bravo!

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Didn’t RU recently change its international eligibility rules?

Also I don’t see many if any RL developed players coming from Tonga and Samoa with maybe a couple from Fiji.

A huge percentage of the RU versions of Tonga and Samoa are NZ or Aussie born also. Yes, they have more development than we do on the islands but that is about to change.

 

[Te Kaha]

All I said was that this guy gets it and can see the writing on the wall. Nothing more, your paranoia has taken it to a different place

He is a fan, nothing more, nothing less.

RU is not an imaginary enemy at all. Very much a real one. Although I do concede that RL has been just as much it's own worst enemy at times.

Of course it is, sports don't have "enemies". Its only paranoid fans who do. This thread is all the proof you need of that, Aussies who think they know what NZ wants, needs, and can so. Without understanding anything about the country or the local game here. None of you care about the health of the game in NZ, otherwise you wouldn't be wanting a second team without the investment first.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Excellent video

Agreed. Like I said, the guy gets it, he can see the tsunami that is coming

 

[Te Kaha]

Your stats and player numbers were also cherry picked against a backdrop of Covid. Sure, RL struggled the last couple of years whilst the community game was shut down, the Warriors had to move to another country and play no home games, that's normal.

It will be fun watching you get salty as the game roars back to life and goes from strength to strength.

The article showed player numbers BEFORE Covid.. try again.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

He is a fan, nothing more, nothing less.



Of course it is, sports don't have "enemies". Its only paranoid fans who do. This thread is all the proof you need of that, Aussies who think they know what NZ wants, needs, and can so. Without understanding anything about the country or the local game here. None of you care about the health of the game in NZ, otherwise you wouldn't be wanting a second team without the investment first.

I didn't say he was any more than a fan. I just said he gets it. One day it will dawn on you too.

Re: the enemies. Don't even try and pretend that RU has been anything but an enemy to RL since day dot.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

The article showed player numbers BEFORE Covid.. try again.

Enjoy the rise of RL that is coming my friend. You will be in awe of what's about to happen

 

[Te Kaha]

I didn't say he was any more than a fan. I just said he gets it. One day it will dawn on you too.

Re: the enemies. Don't even try and pretend that RU has been anything but an enemy to RL since day dot.

There you go again, personifying a sport. You Aussies and your imaginary enemies.

 

[Te Kaha]

Enjoy the rise of RL that is coming my friend. You will be in awe of what's about to happen

Keep on dreaming.