New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[docbrown]

That’s why he is an idiot. How much money would you lose by doing that from TV and sponsors etc?

Less money equals less investment to grassroots and less opportunities which in turn means that kids will find more opportunities in other sports.

Then in 20 years time some ignoramus like him will say that we don’t have enough quality for 12 teams or there isn’t enough interest in the game.

Don’t worry. He’s not alone. There were a few people on here the other week who said we should reduce the number of rounds played each season, as if that wouldn’t affect the game’s income either.

 

[Gobsmacked]

The idea being that fewer players = superior game quality = more interest. But only if you ignore the fact that killing off five clubs is the equivalent to killing off 30% of your current audience…

But the idea is built on a completely false premise anyway. We condense the best players into 2 teams for SOO..and I don't really see a difference in the quality of football played. It's a little faster and intense but that's due to the occasion.
We have 17 teams packed with stars, rosters that resemble 12 million.
Andrew Johns is mental geniused.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Don’t worry. He’s not alone. There were a few people on here the other week who said we should reduce the number of rounds played each season, as if that wouldn’t affect the game’s income either.

Reducing the rounds opens up room for more internationals which is certainly a positive. I'm in favour of it if we have a preconceived international calendar.

 

[Wb1234]

But the idea is built on a completely false premise anyway. We condense the best players into 2 teams for SOO..and I don't really see a difference in the quality of football played. It's a little faster and intense but that's due to the occasion.
We have 17 teams packed with stars, rosters that resemble 12 million.
Andrew Johns is mental geniused.

Origin isn’t in the same league as the nrl club games

maybe a grand final and that’s pushing it

 

[Wb1234]

Reducing the rounds opens up room for more internationals which is certainly a positive. I'm in favour of it if we have a preconceived international calendar.

Not if you want a tv as big as afl

 

[Gobsmacked]

Origin isn’t in the same league as the nrl club games

maybe a grand final and that’s pushing it

Have you been watching the football this year?

 

[Wb1234]

Have you been watching the football this year?

Yeh

just because it’s golden point a lot of games doesn’t mean the standard is as good as origin lol

 

[greenBV4]

Not if you want a tv as big as afl

We have internationals and they don't
If we can build those up more there is no reason tv networks shouldn't be paying overs for them

 

[Wb1234]

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We have internationals and they don't
If we can build those up more there is no reason tv networks shouldn't be paying overs for them

in the long run yes

in the short run it would mean less money from tv so making the season shorter is a bad idea

what they should do is stop the nrl for 5 weeks mid season and play origin back to back weeks plus also have internationals then

 

[greenBV4]

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in the long run yes

in the short run it would mean less money from tv so making the season shorter is a bad idea

what they should do is stop the nrl for 5 weeks mid season and play origin back to back weeks plus also have internationals then

A good negotiator could sell a proper mid season international break as worth more to broadcasters than 4 or 5 rounds where interest wanes anyway

But based on past tv deals the NRL doesn't have any of these, so yeah

 

[Wb1234]

A good negotiator could sell a proper mid season international break as worth more to broadcasters than 4 or 5 rounds where interest wanes anyway

But based on past tv deals the NRL doesn't have any of these, so yeah

That’s the reality though

the nrl struggles to get good tv deals as it is it’s not in a position to offer less content

 

[Perth Red]

Have you been watching the football this year?

The two origin games I’ve seen in perth have been non contests. I’ve seen much more entertaining club games.

 

[Gobsmacked]

The two origin games I’ve seen in perth have been non contests. I’ve seen much more entertaining club games.

The talent at clubs is awesome and the have a season to work out combinations and plays.
What plays , speed or hits do you see in Origin that isn't at clubs level?
Origin intensity is higher for the occasion but the standard of play when you remove the hype is negligible.

 

[Wb1234]

The two origin games I’ve seen in perth have been non contests. I’ve seen much more entertaining club games.

It’s about the quality of play not whether a bad game ends in golden point

you’ve got close to the best 26 players in the nrl with a genuine rivalry

but I don’t expect you to understand origin tbh

 

[Perth Red]

It’s about the quality of play not whether a bad game ends in golden point

you’ve got close to the best 26 players in the nrl with a genuine rivalry

but I don’t expect you to understand origin tbh

For a neutral blow outs are boring, regardless of whose playing.
I wouldn’t expect you understand common sense tbh

 

[Wb1234]

For a neutral blow outs are boring, regardless of whose playing.
I wouldn’t expect you understand common sense tbh

Now you know why Aussies aren’t interested in watching internationals vs England then

 

[Wb1234]

12ft

Excellent news from vlandys

I’ve been saying they should do this from ages

 

[docbrown]

12ft

Excellent news from vlandys

I’ve been saying they should do this from ages

If the top ups come from the NRL themselves, they should copy how rugby unions sidestep salary caps by putting most of it in retirement funds. You then pay out the fund ten years after they retire from rugby league, with a non-compete clause in place for that ten year period. That way players who do come over have to stay in rugby league and not switch back. Players that do switch back would sacrifice a part of their fund for breaching their contract.

 

[Gobsmacked]

If the top ups come from the NRL themselves, they should copy how rugby unions sidestep salary caps by putting most of it in retirement funds. You then pay out the fund ten years after they retire from rugby league, with a non-compete clause in place for that ten year period. That way players who do come over have to stay in rugby league and not switch back. Players that do switch back would sacrifice a part of their fund for breaching their contract.

Yeah my main concern is that players will use it to bump up their price in leaving and coming back salary cap exempt. Clubs would end up nearly encouraging them to leave so they can get them back salary cap exempt.

If you started it today, you'd have to make it a 1 way street for exemption from today. Meaning players currently in the NRL would never be eligible for a return under a salary cap exemption. But then we have an issue of highly talented youngsters making certain they come through Super Rugby or something so they can go to the Roosters salary cap exempt..
It's riddled with issues hence the reason it hasn't been done yet and why they've been looking at it for so long.
It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.
My thoughts would be, we just have a 1 year window where we open the door and completely pillage the rival competition of their talent.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Naming Nathan Cleary as a target is an act of war.
Rugby Australia might not realise that this isn't a war they want.
If they want it, it will most certainly result in their death.

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