New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[mongoose]

Anyone see Laurie Daley claim that Dustin Martin was the biggest sports star in NZ outside the All Blacks?

I didn't realise he was such a heavy drug user?

lol maybe the AFL paid him to say it

 

[Colk]

lol maybe the AFL paid him to say it

It’s a weird counter argument. He was generally right (as much as it pains me to say it) but he was talking absolute crap there

 

[flippikat]

It’s a weird counter argument. He was generally right (as much as it pains me to say it) but he was talking absolute crap there

If there's one thing I've learned from my time observing the rugby league community (fans, media figures, and management), is that most people in our sport react irrationally when someone suggests we could learn lessons from what other codes have done.

Especially when the lesson is "they did this, and it was successful - more successful than what we have.. so maybe we can apply some of that to our game".

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Who is Dustin Martin?

 

[MugaB]

If there's one thing I've learned from my time observing the rugby league community (fans, media figures, and management), is that most people in our sport react irrationally when someone suggests we could learn lessons from what other codes have done.

Especially when the lesson is "they did this, and it was successful - more successful than what we have.. so maybe we can apply some of that to our game".

Yes but most are comparing AFL to NRL even though the demographics are completely wrong, their is more athletes involed, there is a draft in theirs and they play a shit brand of knock on footy

 

[The Great Dane]

It’s a weird counter argument. He was generally right (as much as it pains me to say it) but he was talking absolute crap there

Yeah nobody ever claimed that Loz was a deep thinker or particularly articulate, but his general thesis was accurate.

 

[Pneuma]

lol maybe the AFL paid him to say it

He lost it completely. What the hell was he talking about? The shit he came out with was embarrassing.

 

[MugaB]

The shit he came out with was embarrassing.

Thats what i said about describing donkey nutz

 

[Pneuma]

Yeah nobody ever claimed that Loz was a deep thinker or particularly articulate, but his general thesis was accurate.

Afl get 100000 every game in Melbourne? - demonstrably false.
Afl get 50000 in Sydney? Demonstrably false.
Nobody would watch an Nrl game in Perth? Demonstrably false.
Dusty Martin is the biggest star in NZ outside the All Blacks? Utter bull shit.
The afl can play anywhere and sellout? Absolute nonsense.
His thesis? Complete and utter rubbish.,

 

[Wb1234]

You Can’t rely on crowd or membership figures

how many of the crowd at the mcg games are members and get in for free. How many get in on cheap or freebies

ratings are clearly measured

afl has higher revenue. That’s the only clear metric they win

you just can’t get past 15 nrl teams getting much higher ratings than 18 afl teams

 

[MugaB]

Utter bull shit.
The afl can play anywhere and sellout? Absolute nonsense.
His thesis? Complete and utter rubbish.,

Even in Gold Coast?

 

[MugaB]

You Can’t rely on crowd or membership figures

how many of the crowd at the mcg games are members and get in for free. How many get in on cheap or freebies

ratings are clearly measured

afl has higher revenue. That’s the only clear metric they win

you just can’t get past 15 nrl teams getting much higher ratings than 18 afl teams

We have 17

 

[Wb1234]

We have 17

Last year buddy

warriors nz ratings weren’t counted

we don’t have this years figures

 

[Pneuma]

Even in Gold Coast?

Lol in Tassie they are hitting about 40% capacity in an afl state but wtf?

 

[MugaB]

Last year buddy

warriors nz ratings weren’t counted

we don’t have this years figures

AFL dont have a NZ pressence? Then what the f**k is dustin even known for then?

 

[Wb1234]

AFL dont have a NZ pressence? Then what the f**k is dustin even known for then?

Cause if his dad

Cause of death revealed for Dustin Martin’s father Shane

Cause of death revealed for Dustin Martin’s father Shane

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[The Great Dane]

Afl get 100000 every game in Melbourne? - demonstrably false.
Afl get 50000 in Sydney? Demonstrably false.
Nobody would watch an Nrl game in Perth? Demonstrably false.
Dusty Martin is the biggest star in NZ outside the All Blacks? Utter bull shit.
The afl can play anywhere and sellout? Absolute nonsense.
His thesis? Complete and utter rubbish.,

His thesis is that the AFL is more commercially successful than the NRL, and that's undeniably the case even if he's not equip to make it.

Take Laurie and swap him with somebody that's a little more articulate, better informed of the data, and more comfortable in making and debating their point, and it doesn't even make the news because he wouldn't be saying anything we don't already know.

Simplifying for sake of brevity; the only major statistic the NRL has over the AFL is average ratings, other than that everything goes the AFL's way. Attendance, members and season ticket holders, broadcast rights value, revenue, financial assets, sponsorship value, government investment, participation, brand recognition, cultural impact, etc, etc, broadly speaking it's all in the AFL's favour.

Pretending that isn't the case does nothing to change it, if you're concerned about that state of affairs in the first place. In my opinion obsessing over others success instead of working to incrementally improve yourself does more harm than good.

 

[The Great Dane]

You Can’t rely on crowd or membership figures

how many of the crowd at the mcg games are members and get in for free. How many get in on cheap or freebies

ratings are clearly measured

afl has higher revenue. That’s the only clear metric they win

you just can’t get past 15 nrl teams getting much higher ratings than 18 afl teams

"I can't be wrong if I chose to ignore anything that doesn't affirm my preconceived biases" lol.

 

[MugaB]

His thesis is that the AFL is more commercially successful than the NRL, and that's undeniably the case even if he's not equip to make it.

Take Laurie and swap him with somebody that's a little more articulate, better informed of the data, and more comfortable in making and debating their point, and it doesn't even make the news because he wouldn't be saying anything we don't already know.

Simplifying for sake of brevity; the only major statistic the NRL has over the AFL is average ratings, other than that everything goes the AFL's way. Attendance, members and season ticket holders, broadcast rights value, revenue, financial assets, sponsorship value, government investment, participation, brand recognition, cultural impact, etc, etc, broadly speaking it's all in the AFL's favour.

Pretending that isn't the case does nothing to change it, if you're concerned about that state of affairs in the first place. In my opinion obsessing over others success instead of working to incrementally improve yourself does more harm than good.

Thesis and Laurey Daley hahahahaha fmd he'd have to have a brain to conjure one up..
You would debate with a tree if you could dane seroiusly

 

[The Great Dane]

Thesis and Laurey Daley hahahahaha fmd he'd have to have a brain to conjure one up..
You would debate with a tree if you could dane seroiusly

I debate those that deserve it, and you have to be wilfully ignorant to believe that the above wasn't the position that Loz was trying to articulate in a broad sense.

A poor argument for a position doesn't necessarily make that position wrong. For example, the fact that most people can't explain how gravity works doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.