New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

answer the question why would you give a profitable club more money than it needs at the expense of other areas of investment?

It’s anti capitalist

do you want me to explain to you what that means

why didn’t you answer my question as to why afl clubs which claim 100k members and 40k crowds are losing money ?

are they just lieing ?

 

[Wb1234]

answer the question why would you give a profitable club more money than it needs at the expense of other areas of investment?

Even mick gledhill understands this very simple concept

 

[Perth Red]

It’s anti capitalist

do you want me to explain to you what that means

why didn’t you answer my question as to why afl clubs which claim 100k members and 40k crowds are losing money ?

are they just lieing ?

I’ve always been an equity over equality sort of guy.
Capitalism works fine if your the guy at the top, screw the rest.

most of them aren’t, and those that are is because it’s very expensive to run an afl club. I’m pretty confiedent they aren’t lodging afls financial reports lol. You only have to look at size of revenue to be confident their crowds and memberships are mostly legit.

 

[Wb1234]

I’ve always been an equity over equality sort of guy.
Capitalism works fine if your the guy at the top, screw the rest.

most of them aren’t, and those that are is because it’s very expensive to run an afl club. I’m pretty confiedent they aren’t lodging afls financial reports lol. You only have to look at size of revenue to be confident their crowds and memberships are mostly legit.

ah so North Korea vietnam or cuba are the way to go. Great

don’t worry I’m sure with the new tv deal the afl signed they will be able to catch up

 

[Perth Red]

ah so North Korea vietnam or cuba are the way to go. Great

don’t worry I’m sure with the new tv deal the afl signed they will be able to catch up

Yeh I’d rather we didnt give more money to professional clubs that don’t need it at the expense of grassroots funding, but that’s just me.

 

[Wb1234]

Yeh I’d rather we didnt give more money to professional clubs that don’t need it at the expense of grassroots funding, but that’s just me.

They generate the bulk of the revenue

many are privately owned

it’s literally copying the nfl

but sure having clubs making profits is a bad thing except when it’s west coke eagles

 

[Canard]

Even mick gledhill understands this very simple concept

That's a stupid tweet and the guy should feel stupid for making it.

It's like comparing the ALeague to the English Premier League.

People who gleefully look hope that English RL fail are dumb shits

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

lol, I'm guessing you've never been to either to make a dumb arse statement like that?

Haven't you argued that the corporate facilities at PRS need to be rebuilt?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I’ve always been an equity over equality sort of guy.
Capitalism works fine if your the guy at the top, screw the rest.

You want the RL community from Brisbane and Sydney to fund expansion into Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth. That's communism. It hasn't worked in any part of the world. You whinge like the halfwit uni kids who want Australia to be like Cuba and Venezuela because they want some one else to pay their tuition fees.

because it’s very expensive to run an afl club.

Why is it so expensive to run an AwFuL club?

 

[Canard]

You want the RL community from Brisbane and Sydney to fund expansion into Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth. That's communism. It hasn't worked in any part of the world. You whinge like the halfwit uni kids who want Australia to be like Cuba and Venezuela because they want some one else to pay their tuition fees.

People who turn every issue into a Left V Right politics discussion, are brain dead morons.

Using "Tuition" to describe HECS in Australia just shows how try hard Yank you are.

This is Australia, f**k off with that imported American politics.

 

[The Great Dane]

Agree with most of that, the "opinion" piece is fairly idiotic.

Quite frankly for almost the entirety of their existence the Warriors have been an amateur shit show. This troll thread by Gob and Wb wouldn't get past a page in most years of the Warriors existence.


But I disagree with this:

It allows Australians to be both genuine Aussies (Origin) and non Aussies (PIs) at the same time.

No, it simply defines over 60% of the Australian population (including myself BTW) as not genuine Australians, then piles social and cultural pressure on said people to abandon their Australian identity to support their "heritage", i.e. genuine f**king bloodline and motherland BS in this case, "for the good of the game".

It's the same xenophobic/racist shit we had to deal with back in the day just repackaged and supported by young zealots, i.e. useful idiots, who know not what they do because they've never stopped to consider the broader social implications, and most of those that have won't speak out because they're scared of the social backlash for doing so.

Whether you realise and accept it or not, you are placing yourself in the position that the race/ethnicity of immigrants and their children and grandchildren (literally their blood in the case of second and third generations) means that they can never truly become Australian/a member of the society they've immigrated to, and will always be an outsider that resides in a foreign country and culture to some extent, and that's A. just plan f**king wrong, and B. a genuinely racist and/or xenophobic position (and those aren't words I throw around lightly).

 

[The Great Dane]

People who turn every issue into a Left V Right politics discussion, are brain dead morons.

Using "Tuition" to describe HECS in Australia just shows how try hard Yank you are.

This is Australia, f**k off with that imported American politics.

It's largely French and continental political philosophy and terminology that he's co-opting TBF to our sepo friends.

Almost none of it maps well onto the topics at hand, and his understanding of it is garbage to begin with. I don't understand how wanting the NRL to allow what is effectively a franchise to be established in e.g. Perth is akin to Perth seizing the means of production for example lol.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I don't understand how wanting the NRL to allow what is effectively a franchise to be established in e.g. Perth is akin to Perth seizing the means of production for example lol.

Where do you think the game's revenue is generated?

Most of its active supporters are based in NSW and Queensland. Their support of the game, through attendance and viewership on FTA and PTV, generates the revenue that allows the players and clubs to be remunerated. The main source of income for every club is the annual grant. Broadcast deals are the main source of income for the ARLC. Ch9 and Foxtel are paying for the ratings they get in NSW and Queensland.

Where do you think the players for Adelaide and Perth will come from?

The same place the Storm get theirs. Queensland, New Zealand and NSW.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Whats interesting in NRl is spending is massively different between clubs. We don't have visibility on them all but for example in 2022 Broncos spent $55mil running their football business. Other clubs only spent $25-30million om the football club operations.

Id suggest from what we can see that $30-35mill is the avg football club spend for most clubs. So on a $17mill grant it leaves a club needing to generate $13-18mill in other areas.

That's nonsense. If you have money, you spend it. If I earn 3k a week and spend 3k a week... doesn't mean I need 3k a week.

 

[Colk]

Where do you think the game's revenue is generated?

Most of its active supporters are based in NSW and Queensland. Their support of the game, through attendance and viewership on FTA and PTV, generates the revenue that allows the players and clubs to be remunerated. The main source of income for every club is the annual grant. Broadcast deals are the main source of income for the ARLC. Ch9 and Foxtel are paying for the ratings they get in NSW and Queensland.

Where do you think the players for Adelaide and Perth will come from?

The same place the Storm get theirs. Queensland, New Zealand and NSW.

You do realise that is not communism though? You can say that you do disagree with that option or think it is personally unfair but it is not communism.

 

[Canard]

Once again, every topic in the world isn't a Left V Right politics issue.

Stop making it so, and leave the imported American bullshit there

 

[Wb1234]

No, it simply defines over 60% of the Australian population (including myself BTW) as not genuine Australians, then piles social and cultural pressure on said people to abandon their Australian identity to support their "heritage", i.e. genuine f**king bloodline and motherland BS in this case, "for the good of the game".

It's the same xenophobic/racist shit we had to deal with back in the day just repackaged and supported by young zealots, i.e. useful idiots, who know not what they do because they've never stopped to consider the broader social implications, and most of those that have won't speak out because they're scared of the social backlash for doing so.

Whether you realise and accept it or not, you are placing yourself in the position that the race/ethnicity of immigrants and their children and grandchildren (literally their blood in the case of second and third generations) means that they can never truly become Australian/a member of the society they've immigrated to, and will always be an outsider that resides in a foreign country and culture to some extent, and that's A. just plan f**king wrong, and B. a genuinely racist and/or xenophobic position (and those aren't words I throw around lightly).

Obviously you aren’t a Mediterranean Descendant like I am so are talking bs

Aussies means anglos always has always will

 

[Wb1234]

You want the RL community from Brisbane and Sydney to fund expansion into Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth. That's communism. It hasn't worked in any part of the world. You whinge like the halfwit uni kids who want Australia to be like Cuba and Venezuela because they want some one else to pay their tuition fees.



Why is it so expensive to run an AwFuL club?

Communists always want someone else to pay for them and when they have money they become capitalist and don’t want anyone taking theirs

 

[mongoose]

That's a stupid tweet and the guy should feel stupid for making it.

It's like comparing the ALeague to the English Premier League.

People who gleefully look hope that English RL fail are dumb shits

wb1234 seems to enjoy death riding the English super league, he is utterly brainless.

 

[Wb1234]

wb1234 seems to enjoy death riding the English super league, he is utterly brainless.

He’s a leading English journalist but obviously you wouldn’t know that spending so much time on nrl reddit

I love my footy