New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[mongoose]

He’s a leading English journalist but obviously you wouldn’t know that spending so much time on nrl reddit

I love my footy

having more than 1 professional comp is something RL has over AFL. It's something I bet the AFL would kill for too, as weak as the ESL is... Any true RL fan should be wanting it to be as strong as it can possibly be.

 

[Wb1234]

having more than 1 professional comp is something RL has over AFL. It's something I bet the AFL would kill for too, as weak as the ESL is... Any true RL fan should be wanting it to be as strong as it can possibly be.

Have you been to England to watch super league games ? I have

I love my footy

 

[mongoose]

Have you been to England to watch super league games ? I have

I love my footy

no i have not, i have a cousin who lives in Warrington though. He kind of supports the Wolves but Manchester City is his true love.

 

[Matua]

No, it simply defines over 60% of the Australian population (including myself BTW) as not genuine Australians, then piles social and cultural pressure on said people to abandon their Australian identity to support their "heritage", i.e. genuine f**king bloodline and motherland BS in this case, "for the good of the game".

It's the same xenophobic/racist shit we had to deal with back in the day just repackaged and supported by young zealots, i.e. useful idiots, who know not what they do because they've never stopped to consider the broader social implications, and most of those that have won't speak out because they're scared of the social backlash for doing so.

Whether you realise and accept it or not, you are placing yourself in the position that the race/ethnicity of immigrants and their children and grandchildren (literally their blood in the case of second and third generations) means that they can never truly become Australian/a member of the society they've immigrated to, and will always be an outsider that resides in a foreign country and culture to some extent, and that's A. just plan f**king wrong, and B. a genuinely racist and/or xenophobic position (and those aren't words I throw around lightly).

Nice rant. But completely over the top. It doesn't define people as non genuine Australians, it just allows them to play for a heritage team if they want to. That doesn't stop them being genuine Australians - I think it's telling that you think one means the other. It doesn't.

Playing sport doesn't define if someone is or isn't Australian, that's plain silly.

It's really not zero sum as you're making out.

The other odd thing in your take on this is the terminology "genuine Australian", what on earth is that? Why do you get to decide what constitutes a genuine Australian? It's a nonsense term.

 

[Canard]

PRS ain't much better than Olympic Park.

Perth is a parochial fumbleball city.

This is unequivocally incorrect.

Aren't you part of the cohort arguing that Barlow Park is a suitable venue for a NRL team?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You do realise that is not communism though? You can say that you do disagree with that option or think it is personally unfair but it is not communism.

There are similarities between Perth Red's model and communism.

A theory of classless society with common ownership of property and wealth and centrally planned production and distribution based on the principle ‘from everyone according to their skills, to everyone according to their needs’.

communism

"communism" published on by null.

www.oxfordreference.com

Perth Red wants clubs from Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth to receive a larger grant from the ARLC [than the successful clubs from Queensland and NSW]. He also wants more money spent on developing the game in fumbleball strongholds.

The Storm operated under a similar model. The extra $100m they received over 20 years was needed because they couldn't survive in the free market.

A similar and more extreme scheme has been proposed for PNG.

The only difference between PNG and Storm is the former has the potential to generate players for the NRL. The Storm are still reliant on Queensland, NSW and NZ for players.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Communists always want someone else to pay for them and when they have money they become capitalist and don’t want anyone taking theirs

I'm of eastern European descent. Communism was forced upon my fellow countrymen. It caused division and misery.

 

[Wb1234]

I'm of eastern European descent. Communism was forced upon my fellow countrymen. It caused division and misery.

some people that live under western capitalism have a romanticsed view of socialism

they say if you aren’t a socialist at 19 you haven’t got a heart

If you are still a socialist at 29 you haven’t got a brain

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The left-right political spectrum isn't American.

Origins in the French Revolution

The terms "left" and "right" first appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the Ancien Regime to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left.[6][7][8] One deputy, the Baron de Gauville, explained: "We began to recognize each other: those who were loyal to religion and the king took up positions to the right of the chair so as to avoid the shouts, oaths, and indecencies that enjoyed free rein in the opposing camp".[9][10]

Various "legislative assemblies" divided themselves during the Revolution, where members with "authoritarian, anti-democratic, or anti-socialist views" sat to the right of the chamber, and those with "liberal, democratic, or [other] egalitarian views" sat on the left.[11]

When the National Assembly was replaced in 1791 by a Legislative Assembly composed of entirely new members, the divisions continued. "Innovators" sat on the left, "moderates" gathered in the centre, while the "conscientious defenders of the constitution" found themselves sitting on the right, where the defenders of the Ancien Régime had previously gathered.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_political_spectrum
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[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

some people that live under western capitalism have a romanticsed view of socialism

they say if you aren’t a socialist at 19 you haven’t got a heart

If you are still a socialist at 29 you haven’t got a brain

Westerners are too fixated on changing the natural order. Their plans inevitably fail more often than not.

 

[Wb1234]

Westerners are too fixated on changing the natural order. Their plans inevitably fail more often than not.

Socialism did influence economists like Keynes who took the best bits of it into capitalism

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Socialism did influence economists like Keynes who took the best bits of it into capitalism

The NRL model is a good example of socialism mixed with capitalism. Everyone gets the same support, but need to generate their own wealth to be successful.

The AwFuL model is communism on steroids. It punishes the strong and rewards the weak.

 

[Wb1234]

The NRL model is a good example of socialism mixed with capitalism. Everyone gets the same support, but need to generate their own wealth to be successful.

The AwFuL model is communism on steroids. It punishes the strong and rewards the weak.

I was thinking something like this but couldn’t put it into words

that’s an excellent summary

 

[jim_57]

https://forums.leagueunlimited.com/forums/four-corners.95/

 

[Maximus]

https://forums.leagueunlimited.com/forums/four-corners.95/

We don't want them there either.

 

[Colk]

There are similarities between Perth Red's model and communism.

A theory of classless society with common ownership of property and wealth and centrally planned production and distribution based on the principle ‘from everyone according to their skills, to everyone according to their needs’.​

​

communism

"communism" published on by null.

www.oxfordreference.com

Perth Red wants clubs from Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth to receive a larger grant from the ARLC [than the successful clubs from Queensland and NSW]. He also wants more money spent on developing the game in fumbleball strongholds.

The Storm operated under a similar model. The extra $100m they received over 20 years was needed because they couldn't survive in the free market.

A similar and more extreme scheme has been proposed for PNG.

The only difference between PNG and Storm is the former has the potential to generate players for the NRL. The Storm are still reliant on Queensland, NSW and NZ for players.

It’s simply not communism or even close.

Firstly, there is isn’t a common ownership aspect here.

Secondly, any player is able to go wherever he/she (in the NRLW sense) wishes to go. The way you are seemingly looking at this you are suggesting that players are somehow owned by the NRL or a central body and told where to go or play. If a player wishes to play for Melbourne or PNG or wherever, they are free to do so.

Thirdly, the closest thing that PR is arguing for is a subsidy. A subsidy again isn’t communism. You can argue whether it is fair or not (and on occasions it isn’t fair) but again it isn’t communism.

 

[mongoose]

The NRL model is a good example of socialism mixed with capitalism. Everyone gets the same support, but need to generate their own wealth to be successful.

The AwFuL model is communism on steroids. It punishes the strong and rewards the weak.

and which one is more successful, has more income?

 

[Canard]

No Grade 7 level politics in this thread, please.

Its beyond boring to bring politics into every discussion.

 

[Wb1234]

and which one is more successful, has more income?

So no teams in Newcastle North Queensland Canberra or Auckland then ?

 

[Perth Red]

So no teams in Newcastle North Queensland Canberra or Auckland then ?

Like us in Geelong, Perth, Adelaide, and soon to be Hobart?