New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

Me and WB have a very small running commentary on the upcoming us election. Nobody's forced to read it.
But yes, people being put in camps or teams like it's a sporting contest is the biggest issues on the matter, dividing people! I've just been labelled a " right wing lunatic " because I support free speech... let that sink in.

Ignore the cry babies

this is your thread

how many times has it been derailed by union trolls making up bs

remember the dope who said Auckland council had no money to bid for events due to floods then a few weeks after they paid money for pacific cup games

 

[Canard]

Me and WB have a very small running commentary on the upcoming us election. Nobody's forced to read it.
But yes, people being put in camps or teams like it's a sporting contest is the biggest issues on the matter, dividing people! I've just been labelled a " right wing lunatic " because I support free speech... let that sink in.

Mate, piss off with your imported US identity politics.

This isn't the place for it. Nobody cares that you are do devoid of any substance in your life that you have to import your entire personality from US social media.

 

[TheRam]

Just keep politics out of a clearly non political thread. People think about politics like it is just a sporting contest in any case.

Mate democracy is not a spectator sport.

It's attitudes like yours that beggars belief. And then you wonder why everything is so fu*cked.

But you're right this is not a political forum so post on politics aren't what is needed here.

 

[Colk]

Mate democracy is not a spectator sport.

It's attitudes like yours that beggars belief. And then you wonder why everything is so fu*cked.

But you're right this is not a political forum so post on politics aren't what is needed here.

Mate you misunderstood my post.

I am having a go at people who think politics is like a spectator sport and blindly follow a side.

 

[Wb1234]

Mate you misunderstood my post.

I am having a go at people who think politics is like a spectator sport and blindly follow a side.

Americans

 

[Colk]

Me and WB have a very small running commentary on the upcoming us election. Nobody's forced to read it.
But yes, people being put in camps or teams like it's a sporting contest is the biggest issues on the matter, dividing people! I've just been labelled a " right wing lunatic " because I support free speech... let that sink in.

Free speech? Nobody in Australia or America or any democracy is stopping your free speech mate.

 

[Colk]

Americans

They are probably the worst at it. Although the attitude is pretty well everywhere

Such and such party are great and the opposition are evil. I’ll criticise the opposition on everything they do but if my party do the same thing I’ll try to make excuses.

 

[Maximus]

Lol a last Hail Mary argument if more than one person disagrees with you it mustn’t be real?
I’ve said before I’d love a second NZ team I wanted the Southern Orcas in over the Titans due to the Giants/Seagulls/Chargers/Gladiators failure.
i just want to make sure it’s set up for long term success and many on here overestimate the strength of league and underestimate the strength union still has in NZ.
In Aus it seems to be you’re one camp or the other where in NZ there’s a much larger group of fans that can equally enjoy BITH codes and not have to wish the demise of one of the other.
Although I watched the odd bit pre their existence the introduction of the Warriors into the winfield cup was what began my obsession with the sport and despite enjoying both codes if I had to choose between a Warriors Premiership and An ABs RWC it’d be the Warriors premiership without question.

Don't mind them, they were earlier saying that someone who uses Google knows more about junior rl in NZ than people on the ground and involved in junior rl. Then showed they don't know how to use Google and claimed that Wrexham and Inter Miami are 2 of the 10 most popular sporting sides in NZ.

 

[Wb1234]

They are probably the worst at it. Although the attitude is pretty well everywhere

Such and such party are great and the opposition are evil. I’ll criticise the opposition on everything they do but if my party do the same thing I’ll try to make excuses.

I swing lol

American election is exciting because they see it like a sporting contest

couldn’t care who is leader here he just takes orders from America

 

[Matua]

Me and WB have a very small running commentary on the upcoming us election. Nobody's forced to read it.
But yes, people being put in camps or teams like it's a sporting contest is the biggest issues on the matter, dividing people! I've just been labelled a " right wing lunatic " because I support free speech... let that sink in.

Well good, keep it in that thread then.

The last word I'll say on this diversion though is what areas of the internet are you frequenting if you think Tucker and Elon are true bastions of free speech, they're not, never have been, and it's delusional to think they are.

And back to thread topic, like Matiu says, despite yours and your boy Wb's claim we aren't in favour of NZ2, we are, we just want it to be successful, and unlike you two we know how difficult it will be to successfully run a team in NZ outside of Auckland.

 

[mongoose]

a lot of the left v right "cultural wars" shit is just side-tracking the public from real issues, probably all planned to as well.

 

[Perth Red]

Wtf has american politics got to do with nz2? even by this forums standards that’s some derailment!

 

[bad boy bubby]

Wtf has american politics got to do with nz2? even by this forums standards that’s some derailment!

Western Pasifika thread!!

 

[The Great Dane]

Mate, piss off with your imported US identity politics.

This isn't the place for it. Nobody cares that you are do devoid of any substance in your life that you have to import your entire personality from US social media.

Bit late for that when it's completely inculcated into all our major institutions and has been for over a decade lol.

The Americans may have invented it (more like mutated it from running pre-existing philosophical ideas in actuality), but their society has proved to be better inoculated to it as well, where as for largely debatable reasons it's spread more effectively in the rest of the English speaking and Western world. That's part of the reason why you see large and effective backlashes to it in American society, "culture wars", but not so much in the others.

a lot of the left v right "cultural wars" shit is just side-tracking the public from real issues, probably all planned to as well.

I sincerely wish that was true, but it's not.

The average person may not realise it in their day to day lives, but particularly critical theory and intersectionality among others, and the philosophical and political traditions that are embracing them, have been actively undermining basic tenants of liberalism such as individualism, nativism, equality, and consent of the governed, and have become an existential threat to liberal societies at this point. Naturally other philosophical traditions are reacting to those changes as well, which is leading to more change itself, most of which is totally unpredictable.

Put simply we genuinely seem to be leaving the stable period of liberal philosophical hegemony in the West, and that's causing all sorts of societal upheaval including many, most frankly, of the 'real issues' you're referring to at least in part. I mean just take our country; Australia totally abandoned the last vestiges of freedom of expression and right to protest last year and the vast majority either didn't realise it happened or openly supported it.

But yeah, this isn't the place for this discussion, and most of the people who want to have the discussion aren't equip for it anyway, which is a giant part of the problem.

 

[Wb1234]

New Zealand 2 launching their bid at Vegas could be huge

if they have put together some backers and it’s credible I can see them overtaking Perth for the 19th spot

all the rugby league movers and shakers will be there

I wonder why they don’t approach Eric perez the man who launched the Wolfpack and now Cornwall

perez would ensure nz2 would be a huge success after he managed to get 8 to 10k new fans to rugby league in a saturated market of Toronto

 

[mongoose]

New Zealand 2 launching their bid at Vegas could be huge

if they have put together some backers and it’s credible I can see them overtaking Perth for the 19th spot

all the rugby league movers and shakers will be there

I wonder why they don’t approach Eric perez the man who launched the Wolfpack and now Cornwall

perez would ensure nz2 would be a huge success after he managed to get 8 to 10k new fans to rugby league in a saturated market of Toronto

aren't you always bagging the Toronto bid though? ..... cause you hate rugby league expansion

 

[Canard]

New Zealand 2 launching their bid at Vegas could be huge

if they have put together some backers and it’s credible I can see them overtaking Perth for the 19th spot

all the rugby league movers and shakers will be there

I wonder why they don’t approach Eric perez the man who launched the Wolfpack and now Cornwall

perez would ensure nz2 would be a huge success after he managed to get 8 to 10k new fans to rugby league in a saturated market of Toronto

Isn't it just a school teacher who runs the local footy comp in Christchurch?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

aren't you always bagging the Toronto bid though? ..... cause you hate rugby league expansion

Perth Red bagged the Toronto bid for not being self-sufficient, yet he expects the ARLC to provide RL in WA with $3-4m a year.

 

[Wb1234]

Perth Red bagged the Toronto bid for not being self-sufficient, yet he expects the ARLC to provide RL in WA with $3-4m a year.

David argyle, an Aussie league tragic put in close to ten million dollars Aussie

The rfl refused to give them any tv money and they had to pay away teams travel costs

They had the highest crowd average ever in league one against clubs that have been around since 1900

their crowds in the champ would again have been close to a record

unlike the other super league clubs their demographic was younger and a much higher percentage of women

they had one end of the ground as a craft beer tent which opened 2 hours before the game and a similar time after

it was so good many other super league clubs copied it including I think hull kr

erec Perez had ottowa ready to go until the poms concluded the city of Toronto offered nothing for the English game

he’s the kind of person nz2 should approach his marketing is way too good for super league

 

[Perth Red]

David argyle, an Aussie league tragic put in close to ten million dollars Aussie

The rfl refused to give them any tv money and they had to pay away teams travel costs

They had the highest crowd average ever in league one against clubs that have been around since 1900

their crowds in the champ would again have been close to a record

unlike the other super league clubs their demographic was younger and a much higher percentage of women

they had one end of the ground as a craft beer tent which opened 2 hours before the game and a similar time after

it was so good many other super league clubs copied it including I think hull kr

erec Perez had ottowa ready to go until the poms concluded the city of Toronto offered nothing for the English game

he’s the kind of person nz2 should approach his marketing is way too good for super league

they also stopped paying their bills and the players
when asked for a business plan they failed to supply one
that is why they were dropped out of SL and offered a championship place, which they refused and closed down owing money to people