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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

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Only because the ARL put an Albatross around its neck. Then SL war came and costs were just crazy. I was talking to someone last week who was in the Reds academy. In 1994 they signed him on a 2 year contract for $26k. In 1996 News ltd owned Reds called him back into the office and offered him an extra $76k just to sign on for one more year! That was sht load of money for a 18 year old back then. By his own admission he wasnt that good and unlikely to ever make first grade. Thats how nuts the Rl world was in those days.

I very much doubt there was any club in the country who was sustainable with the inflationary sht that was happening due to the war. We can only guess what might have happened if there had been no war, we will never know. What we do know is that in the early 1990's RL was absolutely booming in WA. And now it isnt.

RL was never that strong in WA. The hype leading up to the Reds' introduction led to the game getting more attention from the public, but that doesn't mean it was bound to last forever.

The same thing happened with the Force in 2007. When the hype dissipated the support dropped back to what it was before their entry.

NBL went through a boom period in the early 90s. So did the A-League and BBL.

Fumbleball in Brisbane experienced a similar drop off after the Lions went from champions to also-rans. It's never recovered from where it was 20 years ago.
 

Canard

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Yes they do

even the Wolfpack did

Heck I remember some English clubs like Leigh complaining about the free sandwiches they were given when they came to visit in Canada
Haha f**k me.

"Hey cuz, we want to join your 2nd tier comp from another continent"

"Cool, cool so whose covering all the travel expenses?"

"Surely you semi-pro teams can just cover it?"
 
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Perth Red really doesn't understand rugby league in Australia. The fact he doesn't understand the complex history between the QRL and NSWRL makes it impossible to take him seriously when he comments on Brisbane and Sydney. He doesn't understand the long history and proud traditions of the BRL and what RL fans in Brisbane lost in 1988 due to what happened over the previous 30 years.

He whinges about Perth losing a team that existed for three years, yet he expects RL fans in Brisbane to accept the loss of 9 clubs, many of whom were created in 1909.

The Broncos were treated unfairly to some extent by the QRL and NSWRL. Not that Perth Red cares. Broncos weren't entirely innocent, either.

All Perth Red worries about is Perth.
 

Wb1234

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Perth Red really doesn't understand rugby league in Australia. The fact he doesn't understand the complex history between the QRL and NSWRL makes it impossible to take him seriously when he comments on Brisbane and Sydney. He doesn't understand the long history and proud traditions of the BRL and what RL fans in Brisbane lost in 1988 due to what happened over the previous 30 years.

He whinges about Perth losing a team that existed for three years, yet he expects RL fans in Brisbane to accept the loss of 9 clubs, many of whom were created in 1909.

The Broncos were treated unfairly to some extent by the QRL and NSWRL. Not that Perth Red cares. Broncos weren't entirely innocent, either.

All Perth Red worries about is Perth.
100 percent
 

Perth Red

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Yes they do

even the Wolfpack did

Heck I remember some English clubs like Leigh complaining about the free sandwiches they were given when they came to visit in Canada
No they don’t, wolfpack did due to high costs to the clubs and SL inability to fund it. Dragons do not pay travel costs of visiting clubs.
 

Perth Red

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Perth Red really doesn't understand rugby league in Australia. The fact he doesn't understand the complex history between the QRL and NSWRL makes it impossible to take him seriously when he comments on Brisbane and Sydney. He doesn't understand the long history and proud traditions of the BRL and what RL fans in Brisbane lost in 1988 due to what happened over the previous 30 years.

He whinges about Perth losing a team that existed for three years, yet he expects RL fans in Brisbane to accept the loss of 9 clubs, many of whom were created in 1909.

The Broncos were treated unfairly to some extent by the QRL and NSWRL. Not that Perth Red cares. Broncos weren't entirely innocent, either.

All Perth Red worries about is Perth.
and still living in his head rent free
 

Colk

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Logan doesn't have "woke" f**kwits like Canberra.

Logan actually likes rugby league and produces quality players. One of them plays for your shit team.

You shouldn’t get emotional now. Also woke is such a hackneyed phrase now it has lost all meaning. It is like people saying somebody is fascist or communist.

The lesson is that you shouldn’t have a crack about something without proper reflection. For example, I live in Newcastle and it is an ok place. You don’t hear me endlessly crap on about how great it is because it isn’t really great. Also, Logan doesn’t have a particularly stirling reputation mate and yeah i would prefer living in Canberra (notwithstanding that it is boring) and being in an area that is higher socio economically then living in say Logan.




 

Bukowski

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You shouldn’t get emotional now. Also woke is such a hackneyed phrase now it has lost all meaning. It is like people saying somebody is fascist or communist.

The lesson is that you shouldn’t have a crack about something without proper reflection. For example, I live in Newcastle and it is an ok place. You don’t hear me endlessly crap on about how great it is because it isn’t really great. Also, Logan doesn’t have a particularly stirling reputation mate and yeah i would prefer living in Canberra (notwithstanding that it is boring) and being in an area that is higher socio economically then living in say Logan.




Lol, this will be good.
 
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You shouldn’t get emotional now. Also woke is such a hackneyed phrase now it has lost all meaning. It is like people saying somebody is fascist or communist.

The lesson is that you shouldn’t have a crack about something without proper reflection. For example, I live in Newcastle and it is an ok place. You don’t hear me endlessly crap on about how great it is because it isn’t really great. Also, Logan doesn’t have a particularly stirling reputation mate and yeah i would prefer living in Canberra (notwithstanding that it is boring) and being in an area that is higher socio economically then living in say Logan.




I'd rather live in Logan because the weather in Canberra is horrible.
 

Matiunz

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Australia cannot support five RU teams. The game would be stronger with just the Reds, Waratahs and Brumbies. It might even need to get rid of the Brumbies.

A-League expansion has f**ked that code.
ARU was definitely at its strongest with just the 3 SR sides the rebels are an example of what could have been for the Storm had they not had success.
A-League shows the importance of picking the right locations, the MacArthur and Western united expansions were strange decisions and seem to have negatively impacted both Sydney and Melbourne markets, the next round of Canberra and Auckland make more sense but Auckland has a high possibility of negatively effecting Wellington. NBL has been pretty cautious against expansion but has quite a few very good candidates almost ready to go if they pulled the trigger
 

Matiunz

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I doubt there was many areas that RL was impacted as badly by SL war as WA. We lost half a dozen amatuer clubs within a couple of years, we lost over 9000 grassroots players in 5 years, we lost the top tier club we had been building towards for nearly a decade, we lost money backers of WARL clubs and so it went on. and 27 years later we are nowhere near close to having rebuilt what was lost. So cry me a river about SL and Brisbane.

All because of a club in Brisbane and Brisbanes shts with Sydney.
There’s a very good episode on the rugby league digest podcast around the state of the game in Adelaide pre superleague and today that suggests the Rams may have been worth preserving after all.
 

Matiunz

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Cowboys were bound by the same criteria. It's why they signed with News Ltd. Their fans remained loyal to the club, despite the team being a basket case on the field.
Likewise the Warriors, ARL essentially ceased to exist in NZ in 97.
Can get why some see it as those 95 clubs (bar the crushers) as ‘disloyal’ but with the financial burdens placed on them they’d be crazy not to jump at the opportunity to remove those.
 

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