New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Gobsmacked]

Bet Twiggy is pssing himself laughing

Yeah, 1 less home game.. hilarious
Increasingly irrelevant comp..
Maybe the Western force becomes an NRL club..

 

[Brian potter]

If I was a broadcaster I pay top $$$$$$ for a merged coded and having the whole NZ Super sides in the NRL alongside the Warriors.

The NRL with teams in Auckland, wellington, Christchurch, Hamilton and Dunedin stacked with union talent would be an insanely good competition .

 

[Gobsmacked]

If I was a broadcaster I pay top $$$$$$ for a merged coded and having the whole NZ Super sides in the NRL alongside the Warriors.

The Union boys here are a little slow. Super Rugby has 1 less game each week to sell and NRL has 1 more..
How does that work when negotiating broadcast agreements??
So when Super rugby clubs are already going broke.. they start receiving less money...
Super rugby is doomed. NRL will get full market share in 10 years.

 

[Canard]

The Union boys here are a little slow. Super Rugby has 1 less game each week to sell and NRL has 1 more..
How does that work when negotiating broadcast agreements??
So when Super rugby clubs are already going broke.. they start receiving less money...
Super rugby is doomed. NRL will get full market share in 10 years.

The NRL has full market share in Australia for nigh on 2 decades.

Because Rugby League has always been the biggest footy code in NSW and QLD.

That's not going to happen in New Zealand.

And to think that Union fans, players and clubs will suddenly switch over to our game is as demented as thinking that RL will become big in the US.

 

[Matiunz]

If I was a broadcaster I pay top $$$$$$ for a merged coded and having the whole NZ Super sides in the NRL alongside the Warriors.

Many Australians seem to think Unions poor state in Australia reflects unions state in the rest of the world- it doesn’t.
The codes will never merge based on Leagues one strong hold in 2 states in Aus.
If there were some sort of quota system that meant NZ players had to play for an NZ based side then absolutely a 5 team model comparable to the super rugby franchises would be great for NZ but in reality even the Warriors struggle to get NZ players and are competing with 16 other teams for those very limited resources

 

[Gobsmacked]

The NRL has full market share in Australia for nigh on 2 decades.

Because Rugby League has always been the biggest footy code in NSW and QLD.

That's not going to happen in New Zealand.

And to think that Union fans, players and clubs will suddenly switch over to our game is as demented as thinking that RL will become big in the US.

Funny thing is all you Union guys are on here saying you like both games but then tell me how Union guys will never watch League...
The NRL gets better every year, adding new teams while Super Rugby gets worse dropping teams.. it's not a question of League or Union, it's Super Rugby or NRL and the NRL are pulling away. The more it happens, the more rapidly it happens.. the curve is steepening.
Now go on another rant about your love for Union while you pretend to be a League fan..fun to watch.

 

[Maximus]

Funny thing is all you Union guys are on here saying you like both games but then tell me how Union guys will never watch League...
The NRL gets better every year, adding new teams while Super Rugby gets worse dropping teams.. it's not a question of League or Union, it's Super Rugby or NRL and the NRL are pulling away. The more it happens, the more rapidly it happens.. the curve is steepening.
Now go on another rant about your love for Union while you pretend to be a League fan..fun to watch.

So to be an NRL fan, you have to believe the union is on the verge of death in NZ?

 

[Colk]

Probably. Aus union is turning into West Indies cricket.

West Indies cricket yesterday or the last thirty years beforehand?

 

[Canard]

Funny thing is all you Union guys are on here saying you like both games but then tell me how Union guys will never watch League...
The NRL gets better every year, adding new teams while Super Rugby gets worse dropping teams.. it's not a question of League or Union, it's Super Rugby or NRL and the NRL are pulling away. The more it happens, the more rapidly it happens.. the curve is steepening.
Now go on another rant about your love for Union while you pretend to be a League fan..fun to watch.

I doubt I have watched more than a handful of Union games in the last 5 or so years, and even then that was mostly just because I was invited by Kiwis or friends to come along to a drinking session.

Unlike our game, and much like cricket, the club game acts totally in service of the International game, and that is the top tier for Union fans.

Union in NZ or anywhere else in the world is not dying or struggling like it is in Australia.

But more to the point, your "off chops" suggestion that Union clubs would even consider suddenly pivoting to League just because you think its a good idea, is the issue I have. It's the sort of unbridled arrogance and ignorance that we laugh at Aussie Rules fans over.

 

[Matua]

Funny thing is all you Union guys are on here saying you like both games but then tell me how Union guys will never watch League...
The NRL gets better every year, adding new teams while Super Rugby gets worse dropping teams.. it's not a question of League or Union, it's Super Rugby or NRL and the NRL are pulling away. The more it happens, the more rapidly it happens.. the curve is steepening.
Now go on another rant about your love for Union while you pretend to be a League fan..fun to watch.

Because there's some people like you who hate the other sport, then there's a bunch who just prefer rugby but will watch the Warriors, then just rugby watching fans, and then there's guys who like both.

The fact that your brain can't conceptualise genuinely liking both sports doesn't mean it isn't so.

It's extremely odd that you can imagine a fanciful world where league overtakes rugby in NZ yet can't imagine that people can enjoy both sports without your unhinged hatred of the other.

There's more schoolboy rugby players in NZ than the entirety of league players, your dreams of franchises switching to league are fanciful at best and deluded at worst.

 

[Matiunz]

Funny thing is all you Union guys are on here saying you like both games but then tell me how Union guys will never watch League...
The NRL gets better every year, adding new teams while Super Rugby gets worse dropping teams.. it's not a question of League or Union, it's Super Rugby or NRL and the NRL are pulling away. The more it happens, the more rapidly it happens.. the curve is steepening.
Now go on another rant about your love for Union while you pretend to be a League fan..fun to watch.

Don’t recall a single NZer here being against the idea of NZ2 we just want to see it set up for success.
In leagues current footprint in NZ a South Island NRL team would pretty much consist of Auckland juniors that don’t want to leave NZ and can’t make the Warriors, maybe a token Cantabrian squad player, maybe a token Union convert, a marquee kiwis signing and a few Aussie journeymen who will get “homesick” as soon as they get established. Not exactly inspiring and many here will deride Melbourne for being a plastic soulless team that relies on Queensland players-yet advocating an NZ version of it.
Get league into schools and improve the standard of the local comps and pathways in general in greater NZ (not just Auckland) otherwise you are seeing the above scenario unfold or asking park level players(Aus equivalent )to play in the NRL

 

[Gobsmacked]

Because there's some people like you who hate the other sport, then there's a bunch who just prefer rugby but will watch the Warriors, then just rugby watching fans, and then there's guys who like both.

The fact that your brain can't conceptualise genuinely liking both sports doesn't mean it isn't so.

It's extremely odd that you can imagine a fanciful world where league overtakes rugby in NZ yet can't imagine that people can enjoy both sports without your unhinged hatred of the other.

There's more schoolboy rugby players in NZ than the entirety of league players, your dreams of franchises switching to league are fanciful at best and deluded at worst.

I think people can and will enjoy both. All blacks will always draw a crowd, I even watched the finals in the wc. The fact is that there's "comps" some are ever more interesting and exciting and some are ever more.. less.. people will start to miss Super Rugby clashes because they get caught up in a more compelling contest..former All blacks themselves have admitted as such.

But whatever dude.

 

[Dark Corner]

Funny thing is all you Union guys are on here saying you like both games but then tell me how Union guys will never watch League...
The NRL gets better every year, adding new teams while Super Rugby gets worse dropping teams.. it's not a question of League or Union, it's Super Rugby or NRL and the NRL are pulling away. The more it happens, the more rapidly it happens.. the curve is steepening.
Now go on another rant about your love for Union while you pretend to be a League fan..fun to watch.

English Club Rugby is not doing very well while English League is punching above it's weight.

 

[Dark Corner]

West Indies cricket yesterday or the last thirty years beforehand?

Be great if this triggers a revival in the West Indies.

 

[Maximus]

I doubt I have watched more than a handful of Union games in the last 5 or so years, and even then that was mostly just because I was invited by Kiwis or friends to come along to a drinking session.

Unlike our game, and much like cricket, the club game acts totally in service of the International game, and that is the top tier for Union fans.

Union in NZ or anywhere else in the world is not dying or struggling like it is in Australia.

But more to the point, your "off chops" suggestion that Union clubs would even consider suddenly pivoting to League just because you think its a good idea, is the issue I have. It's the sort of unbridled arrogance and ignorance that we laugh at Aussie Rules fans over.

Because there's some people like you who hate the other sport, then there's a bunch who just prefer rugby but will watch the Warriors, then just rugby watching fans, and then there's guys who like both.

The fact that your brain can't conceptualise genuinely liking both sports doesn't mean it isn't so.

It's extremely odd that you can imagine a fanciful world where league overtakes rugby in NZ yet can't imagine that people can enjoy both sports without your unhinged hatred of the other.

There's more schoolboy rugby players in NZ than the entirety of league players, your dreams of franchises switching to league are fanciful at best and deluded at worst.

Don’t recall a single NZer here being against the idea of NZ2 we just want to see it set up for success.
In leagues current footprint in NZ a South Island NRL team would pretty much consist of Auckland juniors that don’t want to leave NZ and can’t make the Warriors, maybe a token Cantabrian squad player, maybe a token Union convert, a marquee kiwis signing and a few Aussie journeymen who will get “homesick” as soon as they get established. Not exactly inspiring and many here will deride Melbourne for being a plastic soulless team that relies on Queensland players-yet advocating an NZ version of it.
Get league into schools and improve the standard of the local comps and pathways in general in greater NZ (not just Auckland) otherwise you are seeing the above scenario unfold or asking park level players(Aus equivalent )to play in the NRL

You 3 are all obviously the same person.

 

[Gobsmacked]

You 3 are all obviously the same person.

And just like that all 4 of you stop posting at the same time.
You Union boys sure are a tight bunch.

 

[Perth Red]

Don’t recall a single NZer here being against the idea of NZ2 we just want to see it set up for success.
In leagues current footprint in NZ a South Island NRL team would pretty much consist of Auckland juniors that don’t want to leave NZ and can’t make the Warriors, maybe a token Cantabrian squad player, maybe a token Union convert, a marquee kiwis signing and a few Aussie journeymen who will get “homesick” as soon as they get established. Not exactly inspiring and many here will deride Melbourne for being a plastic soulless team that relies on Queensland players-yet advocating an NZ version of it.
Get league into schools and improve the standard of the local comps and pathways in general in greater NZ (not just Auckland) otherwise you are seeing the above scenario unfold or asking park level players(Aus equivalent )to play in the NRL

Dont disagree at all but the big problem with that is the NZRL doesnt have the resources to do it and the ARLC are abdicating most Jnr development to the NRL clubs.

South island finds itself in same situation as WA, ie without a top tier club there isnt the money to grow grassroots and have decent Jnr pathways. Shouldnt be that way but thats clearly Vlandys and Abdo's strategy for jnr development to abdicate responsibility.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Rugby Australia is back where they hoped they would never return – and their next move could make or break the game – The Roar

 

[Maximus]

And just like that all 4 of you stop posting at the same time.
You Union boys sure are a tight bunch.

At the same time? There was an hour between the first 2 posts.

 

[Canard]

Its also very very weird, like borderline trolling, that those that actively support a NZ2 team, also actively are against the development of junior pathways in NZ.