New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

Hasn’t PVL said as much?

He has

Many times

The only time Perth has looked like getting an nrl team is by linking with the bears

 

[SirPies&Beers]

What the viewship numbers of NRL in Wellington?

probably higher than the 8k average perth throws up, I read nz viewership increased 14% in smh early 2024 article.

 

[Vlad59]

You disagree mate?

I said this should be fun. Are you asking me to disagree with myself?

 

[Hey you guys]

He has

Many times

The only time Perth has looked like getting an nrl team is by linking with the bears

And to the best of my knowledge nobody has stepped up to fund a standalone Perth/WA team.

 

[Matua]

Slightly off topic but gee it’s hard to get any meaningful data on participation in NZ. The websites of the comps are awful and almost unmanageable as far as working out team numbers. The Auckland comp is clearly the biggest with over 30 clubs but the website is a dogs breakfast. The Play Rugby League site used here in Australia is terrific. It captures nearly every comp and makes life a lot easier.
I know the cheer squad here loves little articles telling us league now threatens union over there but it’s not possible to do any meaningful analysis of real numbers of players or even find where all the comps are and who is playing in them.
Raises a serious question about the management of the game there. Which also raises questions about how the NZRL will handle two clubs playing out of NZ in the NRL.
To me, on the face of it, the game needs a massive overhaul over there to meet its potential or even be taken seriously below the professional level.
Am I right or talking shite as usual?

NZRL doesn't include figures in their annual reports, but the last reported numbers were mid 20k's. Rugby is about 140k.

Sporty.co.nz has most of the competition data listed by region but you sometimes need to hunt for it. Comps, teams, finals etc, but no player data.

The schools participation that the various articles have been going on about is genuinely attendance in a one off week long comp rather than teams in ongoing league's comps.

You're echoing stuff a bunch of us NZers have been saying since the thread's inception.

 

[Bukowski]

Hasn’t PVL said as much?

Yes he has, after he said it wasn't the case at magic round. We're talking about if it shoukd be the case though. NZ don't deserve to be lumped with a Sydney club, neither should have Perth.

 

[Hey you guys]

I said this should be fun. Are you asking me to disagree with myself?

Just your opinion will do.

 

[Bukowski]

And to the best of my knowledge nobody has stepped up to fund a standalone Perth/WA team.

Ah, so you've havn't followed expansion bids at all.

 

[Vlad59]

The echo chamber seems to have grown by 1.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

And to the best of my knowledge nobody has stepped up to fund a standalone Perth/WA team.

Cash converter cumins came in and got smacked down a few levels. whether bears was thrust onto him or not remains to be seen but nrl never publicly said anything. however I thinks the numbers just didn’t stack up, as in stand alone and the risk it poses

maybe they do but I’ve done big search and found nothing

 

[Vlad59]

Ah, so you've havn't followed expansion bids at all.

Apparently not. He’s new here so let’s enjoy his challenging thoughts.

 

[Bukowski]

probably higher than the 8k average perth throws up, I read nz viewership increased 14% in smh early 2024 article.

So no idea. Me either

 

[Hey you guys]

Ah, so you've havn't followed expansion bids at all.

Off and on.

its hard to keep track of all the details all of the time.

 

[Bukowski]

Cash converter cumins came in and got smacked down a few levels. whether bears was thrust onto him or not remains to be seen but nrl never publicly said anything. however I thinks the numbers just didn’t stack up, as in stand alone and the risk it poses

maybe they do but I’ve done big search and found nothing

How will the bears offset the risk?

 

[SirPies&Beers]

So no idea. Me either

hard to find stand alone cities in nz but considering they live for rugby and contact sport they’d surely be higher than 8k that Perth produces and those numbers are available.

depends how much of the overall nz viewership is divided into what regions.

 

[Hey you guys]

Yes he has, after he said it wasn't the case at magic round. We're talking about if it shoukd be the case though. NZ don't deserve to be lumped with a Sydney club, neither should have Perth.

In an ideal world it shouldn’t be the case.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

How will the bears offset the risk?

away fans, instant east coast eye balls, brand im pretty sure this discussion has been had since I’ve been here maybe twice or thrice

 

[Vlad59]

NZRL doesn't include figures in their annual reports, but the last reported numbers were mid 20k's. Rugby is about 140k.

Sporty.co.nz has most of the competition data listed by region but you sometimes need to hunt for it. Comps, teams, finals etc, but no player data.

The schools participation that the various articles have been going on about is genuinely attendance in a one off week long comp rather than teams in ongoing league's comps.

You're echoing stuff a bunch of us NZers have been saying since the thread's inception.

Thanks. You and others have consistently provided a healthy dose of reality to these threads. It is appreciated. The fake kiwi aka Gobsmacked and the lunatic feckwit WB have thrown so much crap at this thread it defies logic. Keep it up mate.

 

[Bukowski]

Off and on.

its hard to keep track of all the details all of the time.

All the bears are putting in $0 so I don't know how including them helps anything. But it's happening so any success or failure is on them.

 

[Bukowski]

away fans, instant east coast eye balls, brand im pretty sure this discussion has been had since I’ve been here maybe twice or thrice

Cool.