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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

Matiunz

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Christchurch is a decent sized city that’s growing every year and is a sports mad city with amazing new stadium to boot.

from what I’ve heard out of the 3 cities wellington is the less sporty city plus I hate the cake tin!!
ChCh and Wellington are pretty much neck and neck in terms of size/population.
Wellington does have more top level sports teams so perhaps the market is more saturated.
I’m assuming you’ve never actually been to Sky stadium? The people that tend to hate it are usually the ones that have never actually been there- great location in proximity to the downtown and public transport and it’s one of the easiest stadiums I’ve been to in terms of getting in/out to your seat before/after the game. Circle layout gets overplayed never had a bad view there
 

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By the time NZ most likely gets a second NRL 35 years will have passed. Nz3 will never happen. Rivalry will be based on North & South Island dynamic.
The north vs south dynamic gets overplayed a bit and is a bit sided from the south side whereas majority of the north are unaware it exists.
I don’t particularly like Canterbury but have no issues with the rest of the South, if NZ 2 was “southern” I’d support them as a second team but if it’s ChCh centric i wouldn’t
 

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ChCh and Wellington are pretty much neck and neck in terms of size/population.
Wellington does have more top level sports teams so perhaps the market is more saturated.
I’m assuming you’ve never actually been to Sky stadium? The people that tend to hate it are usually the ones that have never actually been there- great location in proximity to the downtown and public transport and it’s one of the easiest stadiums I’ve been to in terms of getting in/out to your seat before/after the game. Circle layout gets overplayed never had a bad view there
Looks awful on tv with 15k rattling around in it
 

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Mate he couldn’t even lace a 50 year old Steve Renouf‘s boots!!!

he was a fat and lazy unmotivated player who’s found his level playing Japanese union.

guy only has himself to blame
From never playing league he improved quickly and his skills in attack were a standout

He’s lost all that weight now too

New coach didn’t see a future in him at the dolphins
 

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I’m assuming you’ve never actually been to Sky stadium? The people that tend to hate it are usually the ones that have never actually been there- great location in proximity to the downtown and public transport and it’s one of the easiest stadiums I’ve been to in terms of getting in/out to your seat before/after the game. Circle layout gets overplayed never had a bad view there
Although Sky Stadium was built as multi-use & oval, the oval is relatively small so it's as close to rectangular as a true oval can be.

We're stuck with it for some time now (NZ's stadium turnover not being all that frequent unless earthquakes intervene), but one thing that CAN make a difference would be replacing those Godawful yellow seats with a pattern of colours that make empty seats far less conspicuous.
 

Matiunz

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Although Sky Stadium was built as multi-use & oval, the oval is relatively small so it's as close to rectangular as a true oval can be.

We're stuck with it for some time now (NZ's stadium turnover not being all that frequent unless earthquakes intervene), but one thing that CAN make a difference would be replacing those Godawful yellow seats with a pattern of colours that make empty seats far less conspicuous.
Agreed some hear ‘Oval’ and assume it’s MCG/SCG proportions whereas NZ cricket venues tend to be on the smaller pitch side and in Skys case the corners of the rectangle essentially just fit in.
Even ‘earthquake intervention’ won’t really expedite a new stadium as seen in ChCh with 15 years between Lancaster/Jade/AMI and Te Kaha post earthquake.
Agree best fit would be to maybe pop in some black seats to break up the yellow if they want to keep with the Welly colour scheme
 

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Esp since n has so many good rectangular stadia in regional centres with no games

Second photo shows the view from the corners

Even the rectangular ones with one main stand and the rest grass look decent

If Wellington ever got a team maybe 6 to 8 games there the rest around the north island
 
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Esp since n has so many good rectangular stadia in regional centres with no games

Second photo shows the view from the corners

Even the rectangular ones with one main stand and the rest grass look decent

If Wellington ever got a team maybe 6 to 8 games there the rest around the north island
The view from the corners at the Caketin are better than rectangular stadiums - in fact I'd say that's one of the better features of the ground. Photos can be distorting.

The people who generally complain about the Caketin have never been there regularly.

However, the place needs a roof because the weather is terrible.
 

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The view from the corners at the Caketin are better than rectangular stadiums - in fact I'd say that's one of the better features of the ground. Photos can be distorting.

The people who generally complain about the Caketin have never been there regularly.

However, the place needs a roof because the weather is terrible.
A roof was considered in 2014 (as well as retractable seats), but as we know neither idea was built.

Not sure of the retractable seating cost - but a roof was estimated at $385 mil - and that's in 2014 dollars.
(Te Kaha in Christchurch cost is just under $700 mil, and that's a completely new build)

Basically, for a roof they may as well demolish & build from scratch.

 

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A roof was considered in 2014 (as well as retractable seats), but as we know neither idea was built.

Not sure of the retractable seating cost - but a roof was estimated at $385 mil - and that's in 2014 dollars.
(Te Kaha in Christchurch cost is just under $700 mil, and that's a completely new build)

Basically, for a roof they may as well demolish & build from scratch.

Damn, roofs are expensive.
 

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The view from the corners at the Caketin are better than rectangular stadiums - in fact I'd say that's one of the better features of the ground. Photos can be distorting.

The people who generally complain about the Caketin have never been there regularly.

However, the place needs a roof because the weather is terrible.
My only complaint when I went there, was that the rain was coming in sideways. I should have paid extra to ensure there was no rain that day.

But in terms of location, it was hard to beat, walking distance from downtown and easy to get to and from.
 

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My only complaint when I went there, was that the rain was coming in sideways. I should have paid extra to ensure there was no rain that day.

But in terms of location, it was hard to beat, walking distance from downtown and easy to get to and from.
Yep, no way to avoid that rain even in the covered area. Yeah the location is great, can eat and drink and then just wander down.
 

Matiunz

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My only complaint when I went there, was that the rain was coming in sideways. I should have paid extra to ensure there was no rain that day.

But in terms of location, it was hard to beat, walking distance from downtown and easy to get to and from.
Yep it’s hard to explain sideways rain to those who haven’t lived/visited there.
The weather is kind of a unique feature of the place though, when the wind gets swirling it certainly adds another element to it. Remember playing a few games in Wellington where dropouts pretty much had to be drilled nice and low, any height and it risked coming back over the try line or even dead ball
 

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Why Christchurch and Dunedin are the best stadiums

Rectangular and roofed

A big reason why the new team should brush Wellington completely
Dunedins one whilst a great stadium the roof causes it to be an absolute ice box inside in the dead of winter. Basically one end isn’t a complete wall and the cold air just pours in, have never been so cold watching a game at a stadium
 

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Esp since n has so many good rectangular stadia in regional centres with no games

Second photo shows the view from the corners

Even the rectangular ones with one main stand and the rest grass look decent

If Wellington ever got a team maybe 6 to 8 games there the rest around the north island
Second pic also looks like it’s taken in the nosebleeds too which would make it essentially the worst view you could get.
As said before I’ve never had a bad seat there view wise but shit I’ve been in ankle deep water in temporary seating for a test
 

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Second pic also looks like it’s taken in the nosebleeds too which would make it essentially the worst view you could get.
As said before I’ve never had a bad seat there view wise but shit I’ve been in ankle deep water in temporary seating for a test
Given the other stadiums available Wellington shouldn’t be a priority for nrl games

If the orcas are adopted they are going to have a mixed up branding

Are they just nz excluding Auckland ?

Or a South Island plus Wellington ?

Neither makes much sense

And the warriors will need to change their name back to Auckland
 

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