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Newcastle Knights 2019 Team

Pedge1971

First Grade
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After three weeks I think our best side is:

1. Ponga
2. Lee
3. Hunt
4. Ramien
5. SKD

6. Watson/Mann
7. Pearce

8. Klemmer
9. Levi/Upgrade
10. Gavet
11. Fitzy
12. Sione
13. Glasby

14. Mann/Levi
15. Guerra
16. Barnnet
17. Saifiti

18. Ese'ese
19. Saifiti
20. Pastrami Sandwich
21. Lino

Hope we see something like this for the rest of the season.

Who is this Upgrade fella at hooker? Does he go good?
 

Yosh

Coach
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Who is this Upgrade fella at hooker? Does he go good?

His name is Casper.

On a more serious note, I don't want to be that guy but has Guerra become obsolete? Seems to be he and Glasby have the same role in the 17 but Glasby has been just so much better. Will Guerra be the one to get dropped when Saifiti is back?
 

Knight Vision

First Grade
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https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sp...lemmer-left-the-bulldogs-20190405-p51b8x.html

Alex McKinnon emerged as an unlikely key player who helped convince Klemmer to make the move up the M1 Motorway.

"I spoke with Alex and he helped me reach my decision,'' Klemmer says. "We used to play against each other as kids and we played together for the Junior Kangaroos.

"He was someone I looked up to as a kid. We had a good yarn, he said it would be a good opportunity for me to come here and improve my football, and I didn't second-guess my decision after he said that.
 

ryana87

Juniors
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Not sure where else to post this.....but how the hell is Jack Cogger forcing repeat sets and our halves can barely complete a set at all
 

Knight Vision

First Grade
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Not sure where else to post this.....but how the hell is Jack Cogger forcing repeat sets and our halves can barely complete a set at all
Jack Cogger will have a good first grade career. He just didnt look all that great in a team rated as one of the worst the NRL has seen. Same with a lot of our young fellas.

We could sure do with Cogger as our 5/8 now....
 

aqua_duck

Coach
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Cogger's short kicking game is not too bad but he hasn't got much in the way of a big boot or long kicking game
 

Spot On

Coach
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We seem reluctant to let more than 1 player do any kicking at this club. Generally the same player does it all. We really are reluctant to develop players who can kick well in general play and to have different options re kicking. We are predictable in so many areas.
 

Old dog

Bench
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Cogger's short kicking game is not too bad but he hasn't got much in the way of a big boot or long kicking game
Makes you wonder if we would be better off with Cogger and Lamb in reserves filling in for injuries and possibly filling the position permanently. The main flack against them was more for filling with supposed better players, Watson not going well and Others not likely to. We might have trained pre season with Ponga at 5/8 if we had a ready replacement f/b, Meaney. Has me wondering.
 

aqua_duck

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Makes you wonder if we would be better off with Cogger and Lamb in reserves filling in for injuries and possibly filling the position permanently. The main flack against them was more for filling with supposed better players, Watson not going well and Others not likely to. We might have trained pre season with Ponga at 5/8 if we had a ready replacement f/b, Meaney. Has me wondering.
Cogger signed with the dogs at the start of last season for first grade money and opportunity to be a starting 7, Lamb was offered decent money but was badly advised by his management and pushed for top shelf half money, his form then fell away and we withdrew our offer, I think him leaving was more as a face saving opportunity by him and his management.
 

Knight Vision

First Grade
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There's some shiiite player managers going around. Think Lamb signed for the Roosters on less money than we originally offered him. Looks like he'll never get a look in at first grade there.

Reminds me of that second rower we had ( cant think of his name ) when Bennett was here. Ended up going to the Raiders and never heard of again.
 

aqua_duck

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There's some shiiite player managers going around. Think Lamb signed for the Roosters on less money than we originally offered him. Looks like he'll never get a look in at first grade there.

Reminds me of that second rower we had ( cant think of his name ) when Bennett was here. Ended up going to the Raiders and never heard of again.
Joel Edwards. I think in that case he at least got a decent contract from the raiders, was abit below our original offer and abit more than our revised offer.
Lamb's situation is much worse IMO, he was offered something like 3 years at over $250k a year but his manager pushed for more money, unfortunately his form fell away quite badly and he struggled to even secure a contract and signed a one year deal for a pie and a can of coke at the roosters but he's fallen well down the pecking order there as well with the roosters favouring moving Latrell to 5/8th and Lachlan Lam jumping ahead of him in the pecking order too. Will be a miracle if Lamb gets any more than a minimum wage deal next year.
 

Spot On

Coach
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When will we get a hooker who can kick?

This club is for some reason anti developing player skills.

How the f**k any coach can have a team at NRL level with only 1 player (Pearce) who generally does all the kicking is inexplicable. And his short kicking is not up to scratch too often.

How about having a 5/8 that seemingly can't pass. Not sure what that is about either.
 

Knight Vision

First Grade
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https://www.theherald.com.au/story/...d-be-sacked-after-off-field-incident/?cs=2503

"It was the alcohol and I was having too good a time," he said. Hindsight's a great thing. I've been a pretty heavy drinker, I don't deny that, especially my first two years here. It's probably why I was playing average footy back then. My off-field wasn't the best and that reflected on my on-field. Win or lose, I was just out all the time and would be the last to leave at closing time. But I haven't been to a pub since it happened. You won't see my face out and about in Newy now. I've learned my lesson. It's just not worth it."
 

aqua_duck

Coach
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https://www.theherald.com.au/story/...d-be-sacked-after-off-field-incident/?cs=2503

"It was the alcohol and I was having too good a time," he said. Hindsight's a great thing. I've been a pretty heavy drinker, I don't deny that, especially my first two years here. It's probably why I was playing average footy back then. My off-field wasn't the best and that reflected on my on-field. Win or lose, I was just out all the time and would be the last to leave at closing time. But I haven't been to a pub since it happened. You won't see my face out and about in Newy now. I've learned my lesson. It's just not worth it."
Well that would explain why he's so goddamn average for a guy who's 6'5 and 120kg
 

Knight Vision

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Well that would explain why he's so goddamn average for a guy who's 6'5 and 120kg
let's hope he gets his shit together, would be great to have 2 Dsaf quality young players in the pack. Maybe it's the wake up call he needed.

Being that young, earning huge money and girls throwing themselves at you would be mind altering. Not quite sure I would have been any different at that age.
 

Knight Vision

First Grade
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Great story about Sione, his head injury was far far worse than I thought. Hard to not be in there barraking and wishing this kid every success. Great young player.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...UFfLHGPya64rNk0te00bJ8k6PZmLDJWZM_nzdrXFRwLUY

Sione Mata’utia fights back after concussions almost forced him out
Nick Walshaw, The Daily Telegraph
May 9, 2019 8:21am


Sione Mata’utia cannot remember convulsing on the oval at Hunter Sports High.

Nor being loaded into an ambulance.

Waking up? Yeah, he remembers that.

Just as others will tell you how, aged 17, and a schoolboy prodigy, Mata’utia was this particular day attempting the simplest of training drills — charging into a bump pad — when he spun sideways and went, thwack, straight into a head clash.

Which is when the teenager dropped, concussed. Within seconds, suffering a seizure.

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One severe enough to see paramedics packing him unconscious soon after into an ambulance.

And as for what happened next?

“Dunno,” the Newcastle backrower shrugs, now five years on. “Maybe I played the next weekend, I’m not sure.

“What I do remember is waking up in the back of that ambulance ... no idea what was happening.”

And not for the last time, either.

Take his 50th NRL game, when Mata’utia was twice removed from the field concussed. Or weeks earlier that same 2017 season, when a head clash against South Sydney also had him removed from the game.

Within a year, Mata’utia suffered five serious head knocks in play, while off the field, he admits now, even soft training collisions “were rattling my brain”.

Some days, his vision blurred. On others, migraines set in.

“Which really started playing on my mind,” he admits. “Not only the long-term health effects, but also giving up rugby league.

“If I had to do that, I wondered what I’d do.”

Which isn’t how this story was supposed to go, right?

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Sione Mata'utia was the youngest Kangaroo when he suited up for Australia in 2014. Picture: Peter Wallis

No, when The Daily Telegraph ran a spread earlier this week asking ‘Who is rugby league’s greatest player’ ... well, you’d reckon the youngest Kangaroo ever would be in.

Especially, at age 22.

Yep, twenty-two.

Mata’utia still so young, he played NSW Under-18s with Latrell Mitchell.

Yet unlike Mitchell, this largely forgotten hero was also a Test footballer at 18 years and 129 days. Or quicker than anybody ever, including Israel Folau.

Indeed, Mata’utia played for Australia at the same age Brad Fittler debuted for NSW. And Ben Ikin, Queensland.

No small thing when considering Ikin’s yarn about looking so young when he entered that Maroons team hotel, coach Paul Vautin mistook him for a fan.

Which is why, overnight in 2004, Mata’utia was backpage. Captain Everywhere.

Alongside older brothers Peter, Pat and Chanel, hyped as Generation Next.

“And while I wouldn’t exactly call everything since a fall from grace,” he says, “it’s definitely been tough.”
Seated now outside Knights HQ, another Tuesday morning ballwork session in the bag, Mata’utia is opening up on a fight story so inspiring, you almost expect to see a set of Philadelphia steps.

Understanding that in the four years since rewriting Australian sports history, this youngest Kangaroo has earned three wooden spoons, five serious concussions, six months on the sidelines, even one horrendous season where he went all year without winning a game.

Elsewhere, Mata’utia has busted his jaw, fractured an eye socket, earned the Knights captaincy, been stripped of the Knights captaincy, moved from centre to backrow, moved from backrow to bench, and watched all three brothers moved on.

Sometimes, he’s partied too hard. Strayed from his faith.

For a time, he concedes, “lost in the hype”.

And still this Saturday afternoon in Magic Round against Canterbury, Mata’utia will play his 97th NRL game.

“Because my desire to be here,” he insists, “it’s never left.”

And for proof, consider his battle with concussion.

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Sione Mata'utia’s career was on a high when he was selected for the Kangaroos. Picture: Getty
A saga that in 2017, and after spate of knocks, saw him flown to Melbourne for a series of scans so serious, the longest lasted two hours.

“And those scans,” he says, “they showed parts of my brain had fallen asleep.”

Fallen asleep?

“Yeah, not sure why,” he shrugs. “But it meant other parts of my brain were being overworked, trying to compensate.

“And that’s why I was getting migraines.”

And so aged 20, Mata’utia was ordered out of games, drills, everything for six months.

“Best thing that could’ve happened too,” he insists.

Which isn’t to say the Knights forward hasn’t required a HIA since. He has. And as recently as a fortnight ago against Parramatta.

“But now, I’m standing up straight away,” Mata’utia continues. “In the past, that wouldn’t have happened.

“Same when I’m pummelling the boys at training, it doesn’t rattle my head anymore.

“So for me now, it’s all about moving forward.”

Which is why you should know, too, about the handwritten list stuck, of all places, behind the backrower’s toilet door.

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Sione Mata'utia has had mixed success with the Newcastle Knights during one of the club’s darkest eras. Picture: Getty
A checklist setting out some dozen goals for the year 2019, including two ticked boxes for both starting round 1 and buying himself an investment property.

And still to go?

“There’s a few that can’t be ticked until the end of the year,” he says. “One is to keep my first-grade spot.

“Another is to play consistently the whole year. Then stay on the field consistently ...”

But the biggest goal?

“Ah, that’s not on there,” he says. “For me, the biggest thing is to play representative footy again. To play NSW Origin.

“I’ve got a real fire to achieve that.”

And for anyone wanting to write Mata’utia off, remember this is the same fella who was one of six siblings and two cousins raised by single mum Matalena.

A kid who knows what it means to have all three daily meals consist only of bread. Or nothing at all.

At Christmas, the Smith Family played Santa. On birthdays, there was no money for even a cake.

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Sione Mata'utia hopes to put the headknocks behind him and resurrect his NRL and rep footy career. Picture: Getty
And as for those days where the refrigerator sat empty?

Well, mum would also remind them, between working two jobs, how it’s better to have a roof over your head.

“Growing up, all us boys slept in one room,” Mata’utia recalls. “And all the girls in another.

“I learned a lot about being humble, grateful, and working hard.”

As he is now.

Already a father to baby girl Amiyah, Mata’utia and partner Hannah are expecting their second child, a boy, in September.

Elsewhere, this piece of rugby league history is continuing his charity work, adjusting to life as a forward and, only recently, framed and hung his Kangaroo jersey at home.

A reminder, he says, not only of what has been, but what may yet come.

“And that, for me, it’s the biggest thing,” he says.

“Knowing that while it’s been a real rollercoaster, I’m making my way through.

“That despite everything, I’m still here.”
 

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