Next TV deal discussion 2028 -

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

AFL over $4bill cash afl stated over 7 years ($571mill a year)
$643 mill a year as stated total. It’s being conservative approximating that $575 of that $643mill is tv revenue. Hard to see telstra paying more than $68mill a year cash and contra/in kind. Some of the telstra value is tv as well as they retain on demand, replays and highlight digital rights for streaming Afl games.

this has the foxtel/seven cash component at $600mill a year but that seems a bit overs Imo. It’s more likely to be $575-600mill a year cash and contra For seven/fox.

“But as afternoon turned into evening, the final contours of the deal with Seven and Foxtel became clear. Excluding the free advertising attached to broadcast deals known as contra, the Seven-Foxtel bid came to roughly $600 million in cash each year over seven years, according to several participants.”

How the AFL played a $4.5b blinder

The biggest sporting deal in Australia’s history came together after a night of high drama, but the AFL knew it had an ace up its sleeve.

www.afr.com

NRL a little over $2bill as stated over 5 years
nine reported $130mill cash and contra inc $5mill radio rights ($115mill cash)
sky reported $32mill a year cash and contra
leaves fox $240mill cash and contra

as you well know and I’ve linked many times now.

but all is not lost: Mr V’Landys said the NRL would be negotiating the next rights to 2031 “pretty soon” and assured the game “we’ve got a few things up our sleeves”.

sigh

I don't know why you bother responding to the troll. It doesn't matter how many facts you throw at him. He'll just insult you and deny reality.

The fact the AFR says numerous sources place the cash comment provided by Seven and Foxtel at $600m means the trolls will have to eat humble pie. That includes the immature owner of Footy Industry for doubting your figures and siding with the trolls. We both know that bloke will never admit to being wrong.

 

[Captain Apollo]

That is fine but it takes playing longer seasons, something they are against

The players have a point in that regard. A longer season increases the chances of player injury, which means you are more likely to have games effected even more than previously by injuries, even if it is just bumps, bruises and mental fatigue. That effects the quality of the on field "product" shown on TV (be it FTA, or any other). For contact and intensity of physical contest, the NFL is probably the closest comparison to NRL (even though it is far more soip start than RL), and they try to not over do their season length as the players, owners and administrators understand you need to give the players time to recover between games, and between seasons, if you want the players being able to physically perform at their best. That's why the NFL have restrictions on when training can start in the pre-season, how much contact can be done even in season, and stuff like that. In RL, we have too many people who say "they are professionals, they should push through" when in fact sports science shows you have to give players bodies time to recover if you want top performance.

 

[Wb1234]

Except the AFL website states Telstra which isn't in the article.

Telstra was $50m a year previously. Now it is $43m? Which includes the Wifi upgrades to Marvel....

Telstra is now 147 million pa

lmao

the fact people take gillon at face value shows how gullible some of our fellow posters are

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Telstra is now 147 million pa

lmao

the fact people take gillon at face value shows how gullible some of our fellow posters are

Not gullible
just AFLol fanboys .
AFL good
NRL bad .

 

[Perth Red]

Except the AFL website states Telstra which isn't in the article.

Telstra was $50m a year previously. Now it is $43m? Which includes the Wifi upgrades to Marvel....

Like I said as an educated guess I think it’s more likely tv is around $575 and telstra the rest. But you asked for a link nine allegedly bid $500mill plus and paramount $600mill so that’s the ball park the tv figure is in.

any way it gets sliced and diced it’s a massive deal and a shed load of revenue for them. Hopefully they don’t do a pistol Pete and keep their financial reporting transparent then we will know for sure as the years tick by.

 

[Iamback]

Telstra is now 147 million pa

lmao

the fact people take gillon at face value shows how gullible some of our fellow posters are

The deal is until 2031.
Advertising is going to cost more every year, I can't find the figures but why would they pay less than they did previously?

Then of course the statement on the AFL website which listed Marvel upgrades.

There is a gap between the codes in regard to TV money That is fact. How big is the question

 

[Iamback]

The players have a point in thgat regard. A longer season increases the chances of player injury, which means you are more likely to have games effected even more than previously by injuries, even if it is just bumps, bruises and mental fatigue. That effects the quality of the on field "product" shown on TV (be in FTA, or any other). For contact and intensity of physoical copntest, the NFL is probably the closest comparison to NRL (even though it is far more soip start than RL), and they try to not over do their seasxon length as the players, owners and administrators understand you need to give the players time to recover between games, and between seasons, if you want the players being able to physically perform at their best. That's why the NFL have restrictions on when training can start in the pre-season, how much contact can be done even in season, and stuff like that. In RL, we have too many people who say "they are professionals, they should push through" when in fact sports science shows you have to give players bodies time to recover if you want top performance.

I have no problem with that but given Australia's population. The trade off is less money coming in, especially with those services that need subscribers to survive

 

[Perth Red]

The deal is until 2031.
Advertising is going to cost more every year, I can't find the figures but why would they pay less than they did previously?

Then of course the statement on the AFL website which listed Marvel upgrades.

There is a gap between the codes in regard to TV money That is fact. How big is the question

$397mill v $575mill ish. You read it here fIrst folks.

 

[Iamback]

Cricket like AFL took less to stay with Fox. Their reach is a big positive for the major sports

 

[Wb1234]

 

[Iamback]

Good decision

 

[Wb1234]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/foxtel-kayo-knock-out-us-streaming-rivals-as-cricket-tv-rights-locked-in/news-story/560445be8e4f680ce1d534ec362bf052

So it’s for not much of an increase over the previous deal but clearly a major turnaround from when seven wanted out of the deal

also good to see paramount and ten still hungry for sporting content

this leaves potentially Stan / nine bidding against ten / paramount and foxtel which could be a massive pay day

 

[Iamback]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/foxtel-kayo-knock-out-us-streaming-rivals-as-cricket-tv-rights-locked-in/news-story/560445be8e4f680ce1d534ec362bf052

So it’s for not much of an increase over the previous deal but clearly a major turnaround from when seven wanted out of the deal

also good to see paramount and ten still hungry for sporting content

this leaves potentially Stan / nine bidding against ten / paramount and foxtel which could be a massive pay day

Ch10 need to sort their regional network out to be viable

 

[Wb1234]

Ch10 need to sort their regional network out to be viable

Why is it bad ?

that would be a big issue since League is bigger in Regional areas

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Ch10 need to sort their regional network out to be viable

Plus the amount of complaints you read on social media about the poor streaming service by Paramount is a big concern .
Probably why Afl& Cricket never went with them .

 

[Wb1234]

Plus the amount of complaints you read on social media about the poor streaming service by Paramount is a big concern .
Probably why Afl& Cricket never went with them .

We just need them to bid which will force foxtel to pay us what we are worth

foxtel losing the nrl rights is a major long shot their network isn’t viable with just afl

 

[Iamback]

Plus the amount of complaints you read on social media about the poor streaming service by Paramount is a big concern .
Probably why Afl& Cricket never went with them .

Yeah the streaming service is poor, Good to have around to drive the price up though

 

[The Penguin #6.]

We just need them to bid which will force foxtel to pay us what we are worth

foxtel losing the nrl rights is a major long shot their network isn’t viable with just afl

The worry I have is that the more major sports that stay with Foxtel the less likely it would be for us to take a gamble and go with Ten/Paramount on our own. Foxtel will be aware of that.
We really needed at least one of the other major sports to go with Ten/Paramount to give it some oomph.
I`d like to think that Nine/Stan could provide a bit of competitive tension for Foxtel but Nine always seem half-hearted at best when it comes for bidding for Rugby League broadcast rights.

 

[Iamback]

Why is it bad ?

that would be a big issue since League is bigger in Regional areas

They were with WIN for a bit. Changed back now but still missing in some areas

 

[Wb1234]

The worry I have is that the more major sports that stay with Foxtel the less likely it would be for us to take a gamble and go with Ten/Paramount on our own. Foxtel will be aware of that.
We really needed at least one of the other major sports to go with Ten/Paramount to give it some oomph.
I`d like to think that Nine/Stan could provide a bit of competitive tension for Foxtel but Nine always seem half-hearted at best when it comes for bidding for Rugby League broadcast rights.

I can’t see fox losing rugby league ever

it’s paid off for them big time

they know what they have