Next TV deal discussion 2028 -

[docbrown]

That's the problem with soccer, the entire country could be watching but if ch 7 can't squeeze in any commercials is it worth anything to FTA channels?

It explains why all major soccer comps around the world are behind a paywalll, and the big clubs have thier own separate pay channels.

Well there's always ways to squeeze in advertising in stadia etc. But yes, in general soccer is more attractive to subscription services. That said FTA is in its death spiral so it's kind of moot.

You also have to have people who want to sign up to a subscription service to watch that soccer competition. The Matildas ratings are impressive but will it translate to A-League subscribers, let alone A-League Women's subscribers? Hmmm...

 

[BuffaloRules]

You also have to have people who want to sign up to a subscription service to watch that soccer competition. The Matildas ratings are impressive but will it translate to A-League subscribers, let alone A-League Women's subscribers? Hmmm...

All the big names will be plying their trade for European clubs come October … .. Kerr, Fowler, Raso, Foord etc…

This is the problem with soccer that we saw after the men’s performance in 2006 World Cup… Kewell, Viduka and Cahill didn’t come back to the A League…so it’s hard for them to capitalise on the national teams success..

Will all the kids at the Matilda’s games be waking up at 2am to watch Sam Kerr and Mary Fowler play for Chelsea and Man City? Mum and Dad mightnt be too happy about that…

Of course, I’m sure this performance will lead to various State and the federal government tipping in dollars into Australian Soccer… in the absence of significant local TV money …

Hopefully there might be come benefit to rugby league… might even build a bigger rectangle stadium in Melbourne maybe which would be a requirement to hosting the Men’s World Cup…

 

[docbrown]

All the big names will be plying their trade for European clubs come October … .. Kerr, Fowler, Raso, Foord etc…

This is the problem with soccer that we saw after the men’s performance in 2006 World Cup… Kewell, Viduka and Cahill didn’t come back to the A League…so it’s hard for them to capitalise on the national teams success..

Will all the kids at the Matilda’s games be waking up at 2am to watch Sam Kerr and Mary Fowler play for Chelsea and Man City? Mum and Dad mightnt be too happy about that…

Of course, I’m sure this performance will lead to various State and the federal government tipping in dollars into Australian Soccer… in the absence of significant local TV money …

Hopefully there might be come benefit to rugby league… might even build a bigger rectangle stadium in Melbourne maybe which would be a requirement to hosting the Men’s World Cup…

I fully expect more government investment. But if they can't retain their best players here, then A-League will always be a D-grade league.

I really hope the Australian government isn't stupid enough to chase the men's world cup magic dragon again. Unless you out and out bribe FIFA officials, you're always at risk of pissing your money away just to watch some dicatator with deep pockets swoop in and get the hosting rights.

 

[Iamback]

Clint Newton said the players want strong clubs so are only having a 35% share of revenue.

Their share is $1.4bn

Puts the total revenue at just over $4bn

Tv is 60-65% of that as mentioned when the players refused media.

That has it at closer to $2.5bn than $2b..

 

[Starkers]

Well there's always ways to squeeze in advertising in stadia etc. But yes, in general soccer is more attractive to subscription services. That said FTA is in its death spiral so it's kind of moot.

You also have to have people who want to sign up to a subscription service to watch that soccer competition. The Matildas ratings are impressive but will it translate to A-League subscribers, let alone A-League Women's subscribers? Hmmm...

I think this is the key point, what happens after the WWC to Australian soccer? A-League and W-League may get some kind of boost short term, but once people remember they aren't watching the best in the world like they were at the WWC, ratings will go back to poor, and poor is being kind.

Both competitions need to become globally competitive to return ratings in order to deliver financial outcomes to keep some stars here in Australia.

And people running around saying participation will sky rocket clearly don't realise it's already incredibly strong. What are they going to do, take girls off netball? I guess at the margins.

The WWC has been a great tournament for the Matildas but it will be forgotten pretty soon after it's finished.

 

[Perth Red]

Clint Newton said the players want strong clubs so are only having a 35% share of revenue.

Their share is $1.4bn

Puts the total revenue at just over $4bn

Tv is 60-65% of that as mentioned when the players refused media.

That has it at closer to $2.5bn than $2b..

Eh? Nrl Revenue last year was $585mill
are you suggesting you think it will go up to $800mill plus this year?

where do you think the extra $215mill is coming from??

 

[Iamback]

Eh? Nrl Revenue last year was $585mill
are you suggesting you think it will go up to $800mill plus this year?

where do you think the extra $215mill is coming from??

Both the RLPA and NRL put out the statement with the the $1.3b figure.

Once again you aren't allowing for prices rising.

It is just TV that goes up annually.

The GF is $10m to host this year. That would grow each year.

The neutral Origin cities are locked in, Would be increased from this year

Of course expansion will be in that time

 

[Wb1234]

More and more content for the next tv deal

 

[siv]

An NRL round is worth $10m

So what does that include
- 8 NRL games 3 FTA and 5 PTV

What about NRLW and RG

At the moment we have 5 NRLW games broadcast which replaced NSW Cup this year and Qld Cup and NYC in past years

 

[Wb1234]

I think this is the key point, what happens after the WWC to Australian soccer? A-League and W-League may get some kind of boost short term, but once people remember they aren't watching the best in the world like they were at the WWC, ratings will go back to poor, and poor is being kind.

Both competitions need to become globally competitive to return ratings in order to deliver financial outcomes to keep some stars here in Australia.

And people running around saying participation will sky rocket clearly don't realise it's already incredibly strong. What are they going to do, take girls off netball? I guess at the margins.

The WWC has been a great tournament for the Matildas but it will be forgotten pretty soon after it's finished.

A week after the wwc is over soccer will go back to being irrelevant again

did Kathy freeman winning the gold medal turn australia into a nation of runners

soccer is played in summer for a reason

cause it can’t compete with our local football codes

 

[The Penguin #6.]

A week after the wwc is over soccer will go back to being irrelevant again

did Kathy freeman winning the gold medal turn australia into a nation of runners

soccer is played in summer for a reason

cause it can’t compete with our local football codes

I`d like to see a follow up story to this:

Soccer abuse cases from process originally prompted by Lisa de Vanna claims handed to police

Sport Integrity Australia has handed three cases to police from a complaints process initiated after Matildas stalwart Lisa de Vanna's claims of abuse.

thewomensgame.com

 

[Iamback]

So what does that include
- 8 NRL games 3 FTA and 5 PTV

What about NRLW and RG

At the moment we have 5 NRLW games broadcast which replaced NSW Cup this year and Qld Cup and NYC in past years

They'd be losing money showing those games, The NRLW really needs to be stand alone to add value

 

[docbrown]

Following on from what I said last week, James Warburton was downplaying the commercial revenue from the Matildas ratings:

Warburton on Wednesday said the broadcast of Matildas’ games had been “limited in terms of commerciality”. Any uptick in Seven’s profits, according to Warburton, was largely limited to cross-promotion of its other programs to lift audience numbers and advertising yields.

“There are no ads during play, during extra time, and during penalty shootouts,” he said, with Saturday’s quarter-final against France commercial-free for the more than 90 minutes of coverage after the half-time break, despite its audience of near 5 million.

If you can't show ads in the game, then your FTA appeal is limited.

The network’s ability to capitalise on the Matildas’ success was scotched by rules imposed by FIFA, which obliged Seven to sell ad space only to the footballing body’s eight chosen partners, as well as two more from Football Australia.

Package prices were fixed before the tournament, preventing Seven from further cashing in on the stellar run of the Matildas and the subsequent swell in public support.

The conditions imposed by FIFA have instead been a boon for the sporting body’s advertising partners – including Adidas, Hyundai, Rexona, Qantas, Cadbury, Coca-Cola, Kia, McDonald’s, Visa and Xero – with 11.9 million broadcast viewers, plus the 2.3 million streaming viewers Seven says the tournament has reached to date.

I also heard that 7 were turning buyers away as all the in-game ad slots were pre-sold.

Interestingly, seems like Warburton was trying to deflect from 7's decline revenue by attacking Paramount.

Warburton’s comments drew a strong rebuke from Paramount. “The comments made by a competitor this morning are nothing more than a deflection and reflects a business strategy that fails to recognise how media companies are diversifying both domestically and globally,” a Paramount spokesperson said.

“Paramount is a diversified global business with a strong domestic footprint and audience base across linear TV, multi-channels, broadcast video on demand and Paramount+ streaming.”

Whilst Paramount is the 3rd place runner in Australia so far, don't forget that Paramount Global has a market capitalisation twenty times bigger than Seven.

Matildas bring ‘halo effect’ for Seven but commercial windfall limited

Seven West Media boss James Warburton has toned down expectations of how much the network has benefited from the success of the Matildas.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Iamback]

Following on from what I said last week, James Warburton was downplaying the commercial revenue from the Matildas ratings:

Warburton on Wednesday said the broadcast of Matildas’ games had been “limited in terms of commerciality”. Any uptick in Seven’s profits, according to Warburton, was largely limited to cross-promotion of its other programs to lift audience numbers and advertising yields.

“There are no ads during play, during extra time, and during penalty shootouts,” he said, with Saturday’s quarter-final against France commercial-free for the more than 90 minutes of coverage after the half-time break, despite its audience of near 5 million.

If you can't show ads in the game, then your FTA appeal is limited.

The network’s ability to capitalise on the Matildas’ success was scotched by rules imposed by FIFA, which obliged Seven to sell ad space only to the footballing body’s eight chosen partners, as well as two more from Football Australia.

Package prices were fixed before the tournament, preventing Seven from further cashing in on the stellar run of the Matildas and the subsequent swell in public support.

The conditions imposed by FIFA have instead been a boon for the sporting body’s advertising partners – including Adidas, Hyundai, Rexona, Qantas, Cadbury, Coca-Cola, Kia, McDonald’s, Visa and Xero – with 11.9 million broadcast viewers, plus the 2.3 million streaming viewers Seven says the tournament has reached to date.

I also heard that 7 were turning buyers away as all the in-game ad slots were pre-sold.

Interestingly, seems like Warburton was trying to deflect from 7's decline revenue by attacking Paramount.

Warburton’s comments drew a strong rebuke from Paramount. “The comments made by a competitor this morning are nothing more than a deflection and reflects a business strategy that fails to recognise how media companies are diversifying both domestically and globally,” a Paramount spokesperson said.

“Paramount is a diversified global business with a strong domestic footprint and audience base across linear TV, multi-channels, broadcast video on demand and Paramount+ streaming.”

Whilst Paramount is the 3rd place runner in Australia so far, don't forget that Paramount Global has a market capitalisation twenty times bigger than Seven.

Matildas bring ‘halo effect’ for Seven but commercial windfall limited

Seven West Media boss James Warburton has toned down expectations of how much the network has benefited from the success of the Matildas.

www.smh.com.au

That sums up the problem with FTA. People just assume it makes a truck load of money. Very few games do. Luckily for ch7 they had no production costs. $5m for 15 games or whatever is high

 

[Wb1234]

EFL’s cash grab shows mountain Super League must climb

The record TV deal secured by the English Football League (EFL) could prove ominous for Super League and English rugby League.

everythingrugbyleague.com

Fears for sl tv deal

 

[Perth Red]

EFL’s cash grab shows mountain Super League must climb

The record TV deal secured by the English Football League (EFL) could prove ominous for Super League and English rugby League.

everythingrugbyleague.com

Fears for sl tv deal

Interestingly Ive heard that the new Sky deal may allow clubs to live produce their own games and sell them directly to fans. They do this on a 2 day delay at moment but will be great if they can offer a live service.

Whilst the $ amount has fallen again which is not good news the positives are every game shown, video replay at every game (if you think VR is a good thing!), more games on FTA and if the club live streaming thing is true that will be awesome. Sadly EPL continues to suck up all the sports tv money in UK.

Super League confirm new TV deal, broadcasting partner and video referee role until 2026

FOLLOWING a meeting of RL Commercial, IMG and Super League (Europe) Shareholders, RL Commercial will now enter a 30-day exclusive negotiating period with Sky Sports to formalise and contract the br…

www.totalrl.com

 

[Wb1234]

Interestingly Ive heard that the new Sky deal may allow clubs to live produce their own games and sell them directly to fans. They do this on a 2 day delay at moment but will be great if they can offer a live service.

Whilst the $ amount has fallen again which is not good news the positives are every game shown, video replay at every game (if you think VR is a good thing!), more games on FTA and if the club live streaming thing is true that will be awesome. Sadly EPL continues to suck up all the sports tv money in UK.

Super League confirm new TV deal, broadcasting partner and video referee role until 2026

FOLLOWING a meeting of RL Commercial, IMG and Super League (Europe) Shareholders, RL Commercial will now enter a 30-day exclusive negotiating period with Sky Sports to formalise and contract the br…

www.totalrl.com

How the deal was done

REVOLUTION IN RUGBY LEAGUE: New age dawns as Murdoch's millions prove an irresistible lure Dave Hadfield charts the steps that led to a game being turned on its head

www.independent.co.uk

15 million pa back in 95

shows how much the game has regressed and wasted money

2 clubs in France one in wales
Mergers in Wakey and hull

and here we are

 

[Perth Red]

Sorry no reference from where this article is from?

‘Industry insiders say Nine and Stan are building a war chest to make a bold bid for exclusive rights to the NRL when the current deal with Nine and
pay television network Fox Sports expires at the end of the 2027 season.’

 

[The_Wookie]

Sorry no reference from where this article is from?

‘Industry insiders say Nine and Stan are building a war chest to make a bold bid for exclusive rights to the NRL when the current deal with Nine and
pay television network Fox Sports expires at the end of the 2027 season.’

 

[docbrown]

Like I said before, 9 & Stan want to go it alone. Don't be surprised if 10 & Paramount do the same.