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Next TV rights deal part 2

Are you happy with the new TV deal?


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siv

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Interesting to see Optus considering a LTE platform to deliver content

Optus-Vodafone over the last few years have been working in a huge way to upgrade all of their base stations to be 4G and LTE capable

Not to mention that Optus has its own satellite

So when LTE is activated nationally they will want to showcase it as next generation.of mobile broadband

This should address locations like mine where NBN seems to be taking forever

Will quality be good enough - it will depend on compression algorithms. But the fact they are trialling it means it works

Then the only other question will be capacity

If the uptake is significant they run the risk of a vodafail scenario where network capacity couldnt keep up with demand

The final issue will be the set top box itself - where today people expect to be able to record 1TB of content to watch at a later time

I dont think I've watched live tv other than my team.on game day for around 5 years

Its one of my annoyances over streaming when its on at 2am or on the train home from work where reception on the northern transport corridor is poor
 
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I just dont believe that Optus couldnt leverage $200m a year when they have a yearly turnover of almost $9billion...

Of course they dont have the financial power of NewsLtd, but they would still be able to compete for this relatively low level (in the grand scheme) product.

Whether they would be willing to front that for the NRL is another question, but in reality that kind of purchase is necessary if they intend to compete with Telstra and NewsLtd in these media markets.

Optus is bigger than Newscorp, and Singtel has a market cap only 10bn smaller than Newscorp & 21st century fox combined.

Their problem is they are up against Telstra as well as News Corp.
 

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Can you post it?? i dont like clicking Telegraph articles.
one day this idiot is going to be held accountable for the crap she makes up.

The full extent of the mistakes made by former NRL boss, Dave Smith, comes to light with each day he is absent from the corner office at Moore Park headquarters.

The worst blunder of all is the revelation that Smith refused to open talks with Israel Folau after the superstar fullback declared an interest in returning to the code from rugby union earlier this year.

The Daily Telegraph can exclusively reveal that the NRL?s football boss, Todd Greenberg approached Folau before he re-signed with the Australian Rugby Union. Greenberg is a close friend of Folau?s and saw him as the number one target for a return to the code, particularly after the superstar said he would be interested.

An experienced league hand, Greenberg knew the value Folau could deliver in two key areas ? crowds and participation at the junior level.

He is one of the top three most popular footballers in either union or league.

Although Greenberg refused to comment at length this week, he confirmed that he did speak to Folau. Greenberg approached Smith after the initial talks, who repeatedly told his senior executive that the only way he would entertain discussing a return for Folau would be on Smith?s prohibitive terms.

Smith said a flat no to allowing Folau to choose his own club. He said the NRL would choose the club at which he would play and that raiding the NRL?s war chest was not an option.

The Australian Rugby League Commission were not made aware of the interest from Folau but, given the current make up of the ARLC, the chances of the board seeing the value of Folau were minimal anyway.

The clubs Folau expressed an interest in returning to were the Broncos, the Storm, the Roosters, the Bulldogs or the Eels. Smith said a flat no to all five.

He insisted Folau?s return would only be considered if he agreed to play at one of the NRL?s four insolvent clubs ? the Gold Coast Titans, the Newcastle Knights, Wests Tigers or St George Dragons.

Smith named the Titans as the most likely winner of his signature, a notion abhorrent to Folau who wanted to play alongside former Queensland Origin team mates and in a high performance, elite environment.

The Titans are one of four franchises being underwritten by the NRL.

I understand Greenberg pleaded with Smith to reconsider, to allow the open market to determine where Folau might play league, but Smith was determined to select one of the four clubs, each of which Folau would not entertain.

Smith also refused to meet with Folau or his management, leaving the rugby union convert no choice but to re-sign with the ARU.

While there is no suggestion Folau is not happy with his new contract or his decision to play on in rugby, it is a savage indictment on Smith?s leadership that the biggest name in either code was allowed to slip through the net.

Smith made a similar error with Sam Burgess, refusing to intervene to keep the Souths star here after his initial approach from rugby union.

The Folau fumbling underlines the sad fact that the Smith tenure allowed rugby league to flounder to its very core.

The problems were huge and confronting: insolvent clubs with questionable new boards, executives on ridiculous salaries with little or no role to play in the day to day running of the game and 12 clubs who are so angry that a rebellion is not as remote a possibility as some may believe.

One staffer said this week that the NRL had completely lost its way, led by a board that is generally unaware of the internal problems that wrack the organisation.

?John Grant has taken charge and looks like he wants to stay here for a long stint but he was half of the problem in the first place,? he said. ?We are surrounded by people who have no idea about the core values of the game.?

Reflective of the issues confronting any new chief executive who takes charge is the rising anger and fear within club ranks that the allocation of funds is mismanaged and that the constitution of the ARLC denies all 16 clubs any say in the management of the game.

Without 14 of the 18 possible votes, no changes can be made to the make up of the ARLC, effectively allowing commissioners to continue to re-elect themselves for new, lengthy tenures.

The Daily Telegraph also understands that nobody from the recruitment firm or the ARLC has approached several obvious and highly regarded candidates for the chief executive?s job, including Warriors chief, Jim Doyle.

Little wonder then that Israel Folau ran for cover, now to be known as the big fish that got away.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...r-ceo-dave-smith/story-fnp0lyn3-1227617132833
 
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A bullshit article right there. The key words have been very helpfully highlighted, and translate to: "I am claiming without substantiation" or even "I am making up that".
 

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as usual the bs doesn't even make any sense, if Smith refused to use the 'warchest' how could he then attempt to dictate which club Folau went to? errrrrrr....
 

Raiderdave

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How so? All I see from all the media outlets is a figure around $1.75-1.9 Billion, for everything. Plus we hand back Saturday game to Pox, which by the way would be a massive setback for the game. How on earth can the AFL have everything, like prime free to air games, complete simulcast of all games, a designated channel and $2.2b, while the NRL, the number one sports rating program on TV is struggling to break the $2B mark and only have 3 games on free to air to achieve it?

How is that great? Correct me if I'm wrong.

I know that Pox is throwing a lot of shade at the ARLC at the moment with its propaganda war but so far nothing has changed as far as the NRL being the step sister to the AFL. The Optus thing is a positive development, but I hardly think that it will pan out to the extent of pushing up the price to $2B+.

the AFL have 3.5 games on FTA for their next deal
9 simulcast & they got 2.508 Bill for 6 years or 418 Mill per annum

The NRL will get 3/4 on FTA .. 8 simulcast for 2.2 Billion for 5 years
or 440 Mill per annum .. approx.
Plus we've dumped Mondays & regained control of the schedule , I also don't think the Friday 6pm will get off the ground because its plain ridiculous.
So we have in the space of a decade come from being 280 million dollars behind the AFL in the value of media rights deals
to 100 million ahead
&
if you factor in that the first year of our next deal ( when comparing to the 6th year of the AFL deal ).. could be worth 500 million dollars
we are in fact about 200 million ahead of the AFL.

so how does that equate to the NRL still being the poor cousin or woteva term you used exactly ?:sarcasm:
 
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the AFL have 3.5 games on FTA for their next deal
9 simulcast & they got 2.508 Bill for 6 years or 418 Mill per annum

The NRL will get 3/4 on FTA .. 8 simulcast for 2.2 Billion for 5 years
or 440 Mill per annum .. approx.
Plus we've dumped Mondays & regained control of the schedule , I also don't think the Friday 6pm will get off the ground because its plain ridiculous.
So we have in the space of a decade come from being 280 million dollars behind the AFL in the value of media rights deals
to 100 million ahead
&
if your factor in that the first year of our next deal ( when comparing to the 6th year of the AFL deal ).. could be worth 500 million dollars
we are in fact about 200 million ahead of the AFL.

so how does that equate to the NRL still being the poor cousin or woteva term you used exactly ?:sarcasm:

Nothing confirmed yet. Take a step back.

Also that sixth year for the AFL is ballooned. It's significantly worth more than their other 5.
 

Raiderdave

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Nothing confirmed yet. Take a step back.

Also that sixth year for the AFL is ballooned. It's significantly worth more than their other 5.

sure .. all speculation of course but not fanciful when factoring in all elements.
And if the AFL's 6th year is what pulled them up to the figure they got, then our 5 v their first 5 looks even better.:cool:
 

TheRam

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the AFL have 3.5 games on FTA for their next deal
9 simulcast & they got 2.508 Bill for 6 years or 418 Mill per annum

The NRL will get 3/4 on FTA .. 8 simulcast for 2.2 Billion for 5 years
or 440 Mill per annum .. approx.

Plus we've dumped Mondays & regained control of the schedule , I also don't think the Friday 6pm will get off the ground because its plain ridiculous.
So we have in the space of a decade come from being 280 million dollars behind the AFL in the value of media rights deals
to 100 million ahead
&
if you factor in that the first year of our next deal ( when comparing to the 6th year of the AFL deal ).. could be worth 500 million dollars
we are in fact about 200 million ahead of the AFL.

so how does that equate to the NRL still being the poor cousin or woteva term you used exactly ?:sarcasm:

I didn't realize you had a crystal ball.
 

siv

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How much of the deal is representative games

City v Country
SOO I II III
Pacific Tests
Australian Tests

How much is U20s

How much is QLD Cup and NSW Cup

How much is National U16s and U18s

AFL doesnt have these games
 

CC_Roosters

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Since when do we have 4 insolvent clubs

Is there a media standards agency or watchdog we can report this dribble to
 

applesauce

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the AFL have 3.5 games on FTA for their next deal
9 simulcast & they got 2.508 Bill for 6 years or 418 Mill per annum

They have 4.5 games/week on average on FTA. A Fox game now shifts to CH10 on a Saturday arvo; it was written into the contract if FOX got it's share in CH10 approved by the ACCC.
 

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