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Next TV rights deal

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they will know by end of this month.

I fear that fox will play games with the draw for next year, they are just as ropeable with Nine as they are with the NRL and I don't think they are going to be open to much compromise during the process.

It's still the same set up as the previous deal though isn't it? Nine get picks 1, 2 and 4, Fox get 3 (Monday) and 5 - 8.

What's the worst they could do? Put Cowboys or Raiders home games on Mondays?
 

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I would imagine it involves a fair bit of compromise and negotiation and fox sports could make that process difficult if they choose to.
 

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expand and give them a saturday night back with the ninth game, red button option same KO time one live on ft, both on fix with one Fox only. Let Foxhave choice of best game. everyone's a winner.
 

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Honestly I don't think Nine would mind giving it up either would love a deal done so next season all games are simulcast on Fox but that's wishful thinking.
 

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Honestly I don't think Nine would mind giving it up either would love a deal done so next season all games are simulcast on Fox but that's wishful thinking.

It's up to Nine now. They have a contract and they have the option to on sell games (with NRL approval). I thought that was to sell it to another FTA network but possibly Fox I guess.

I would be surprised if the NRL would be willing to have one of the FTA games go to Fox seeing as the big positive spin that was made out of the new deal with Nine was that we will now have more live FTA Rugby League than ever.

It'd be a bad look for Smith and the game to turn around now and say "look, I know we told all the fans and clubs that there would be 4 live games on free to air every week, but we're going to take the money and run." I doubt this is the case.

If Fox get their exclusive Saturday night back, I'd imagine that the 2pm Fox game would now be on FTA.
 
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Nine can only resell games to FTA networks, the NRL would have to buy the Sat game back off Nine for Fox to get it back. The Nine long form contract may not have even been drawn up yet so it could potentially be reworked. I keep going back to the press conference with neither Grant or Gyngell present, had an unfinished feel about it. The NRL obviously have some sort of strategy, no one will care how they get there as long as they get there.
 

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The AFR have a story about news corp saying there threats are empty regarding the tv deal. Pay wall article.
 

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News Corp threats against NRL's Dave Smith are empty

With the premiership seasons of both major football codes now over, the barrage of attacks and threats News Corp's newspapers have levelled at rugby league boss Dave Smith can now be seen for what they were: silly and empty.

Since News subsidiary Fox Sports was cut out of the NRL's new $925 million broadcast deal with Nine Entertainment Co in August, the Murdoch beast has been squealing for Smith's scalp.

A week later, executive co-chairman Rupert Murdoch and chief executive Robert Thomson fronted the cameras to trumpet their new AFL deal with Seven's Kerry Stokes and Telstra's Andy Penn.

"We have always preferred Australian rules," Rupert said, somehow maintaining a straight face. It's just three years since News ceded joint control of the NRL to an independent commission, two since it sold NRL club Melbourne Storm and not 20 since the Murdochs and Packers called a truce in the super league war.

Beside him, Thomson promised News would "use all of its media clout to promote [AFL] in the rugby league heartlands in NSW and Queensland."

Incoming News Corp Australia chief Peter Tonagh continued along those lines. "There is plenty of opportunity outside Victoria to leverage those big [AFL] fan bases… We will be putting the weight of our newspapers behind the investment we have made."

But while The Australian's corporate flog Darren Davidson beats his drum (Lurch must've been a star timpanist in the school orchestra; the timps look simple because they are; nuance optional!), none of News' actual weight or clout has got the message. Or if they have, they're ignoring it.

"No finer finale," the Daily Telegraph said of last Sunday's epic NRL grand final between North Queensland and the Brisbane Broncos. The Sydney tabloid, edited by Paul "Boris" Whittaker, ran dozens of glowing articles, including one called "Why NRL final smashed AFL" and a double-page spread on "Top 50 most dramatic moments of the 2015 NRL season."

Last month Brisbane's Sunday Mail, edited by Peter Gleeson, launched a brand campaign to promote its new-look sports liftout, fronted by Cowboys legend Johnathan Thurston. No sign of Gary Ablett Jr there…

These titles are serving up what their readers want: pages and pages of rugby league. They have no choice but to continue to do so, and they know it.

The same goes for Fox Sports and Foxtel. Like all the major sporting codes, the NRL has all the power in this equation. "At the end of the day, in my opinion," said league caller and Sydney talkback host Ray Hadley, "Fox needs the NRL much more than the NRL needs Fox." Ultimately, either Fox Sports will pay Smith's asking price, or he'll sell them to another broadcaster. And if an ESPN or Google ends up with the rights, News will be in no position to refuse to carry its signal on the Foxtel platform. Without rugby league, Foxtel's business is buggered, and its half-owner, Telstra, won't let that happen.

And a week ago, Lurch claimed that "the Australian Rugby League Commission, the code's governing body, has been left in limbo after News Corp decided to put talks on ice." That would've been news to Smith, and outgoing News chief Julian Clarke, who have continued to engage about the rights package directly.

The latest "left in limbo" story is no more or less misleading than anything else News has parroted since their August gazumping. So will Smith's chairman John Grant see it for the naked misdirection that it is, or will he lose his nerve and let the Murdochs save some face with a sacrificial offering?

http://www.afr.com/brand/rear-windo...nst-nrls-dave-smith-are-empty-20151011-gk692j
 

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Nine can only resell games to FTA networks, the NRL would have to buy the Sat game back off Nine for Fox to get it back. The Nine long form contract may not have even been drawn up yet so it could potentially be reworked. I keep going back to the press conference with neither Grant or Gyngell present, had an unfinished feel about it. The NRL obviously have some sort of strategy, no one will care how they get there as long as they get there.

I think you could also look at it as a respectful move following an aggressive tactic.

Smith probably wanted to prevent a show-of-force reaction (that we have since seen from NEWS) by having Gyngell next to him grinning after taking away Fox's negotiating power.
 

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If Fox get their exclusive Saturday night back, I'd imagine that the 2pm Fox game would now be on FTA.

It's going to remain 4 matches on F2A. You'd think that would be most likely as the Sunday Double Header has been and still is desirable for 9.

The other alternatives are for the last Saturday game on Fox to be preceded by a pre-news game on 9 or a post-news game on 10 (if an on-sell occurs) - but that's still breaking the Saturday subscription block to some degree.

Again - Foxtel could come out of this with 4 simulcast matches (new games on Thursday & Friday slots) & up to 5 exclusive matches including but not limited to potentially Sunday evening/night exclusive & Saturdays exclusive. Any talk about that not being an attractive sell to subscribers is BS.
 
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What's the bet our pal Darren Davidson hits back for Murdoch in tomorrow's Australian.
Davidson., Slothfield and Bourbon Becs should wake and smell the coffee.
The fact of the matter is that these Murdoch lackies have to tell Uncle Rupe that if he wants the NRL on his TV station he's going to have to pay the going rate, and the going rate has gone up since the NRL Grand Final.
 
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